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Old 05-16-2008, 07:25 AM
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This Is The Most Exciting Team Building System Ever To Hit The Internet!

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Old 05-19-2008, 04:39 PM
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Manolo,

This is going to be the next big program. I have 200 people who have signed up and do not know about the business

We will do well with this. I like the new script they have that assignes new referrals to the paid downline members.

This will help the average person recieve BONUSES. The other GURUS who are in it for the fast start bonuses and not their downline will be in the bonus pool and we will have alot of our members in the Bonus pools.

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Old 05-19-2008, 04:58 PM
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yeah right. it is hard enough to give people 2 new members, now this one is saying they will give 4. the hype will kill them

plus i would research the person behind this one. he is a well known scammer. he was tied into ymmss scam with kim inman.

people just don't care who they do business with as long as they might make a penny



this is the dirtbag Barry Eschenberg


he is also tied into tpsu - TPSU is owned and operated by John Dierksmeier, Barry Eschenberg And Jim Reynolds

john dierksmeier is the scum bag behind tvbox net

total scammers


hope you guys are proud to be connected to such a nice guy
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:12 AM
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We are not giving away referrals,
What the system does is help the members that are not as active as others.

For example i got way more than 4 personals so the rest i am getting goes down to my referrals, you can ask them...

Between, I asked about the Admin and everything was well explained to me, he is not a scammer, i will call my upliner here so he can clear your doubts!!!
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:24 PM
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Hello Everyone,

I hope I can help clear a few small items up...

First off, I can certainly understand why anyone who doesn't understand how our system is programmed to work would think that the possiblility of giving away personals (4 to all our members) is not going to work...

After all, spillover is a myth beyond just a few levels, so how could this work?

The fact is that the Unselfish Wealth Team Building System was specifically designed to build differently from how spillover usually works...call this "anti-spillover on steroids" maybe...

We pride ourselves on doing things differently and in a manner that helps our members rather than feeds off of the signup bonuses from their enrollment...

I'm not going to go into every detail here because of course some of our method we'd like to keep proprietary and exclusive to our team for as long as possible...it will get out there fairly quickly anyway, but we'd like to protect our interests as much as we can...I'm sure you'll understand that.

Spillover only works for a limited time and only for a limited number of people AND only if you join right under a "super builder"...we all know that now...joining with the hope that you'll receive massive spillover is like trying to win the lottery...with maybe slightly better odds though...

The Unselfish Wealth System is programmed to do one thing...TEAM Build and provide assistance to those who are less skilled at marketing than others, but who still sincerely want to build a growing income...

Here's part of how our system works...

Most members of any company simply go out and try to sign up as many personals as they can (just like the gurus, right?)...

That's what we were all taught...sign up tons of personals, get lots of fast start money, have them do the same thing...right?

Well if you do that, YOU make some money...but what about those you signed up? How well will THEY do? Not very well if they can't sign up a lot of new members, right?

The problem is that the vast majority of people can't do that...so building in that way is (at best) going to earn most people a short term income...if they earn any at all...since those who can't recruit large numbers will untimately quit...

The gurus don't care about that...they do what they do, and then move on to the next deal, making money over and over on new member signups rather than building a long term strong business in anything...

The reason we built Unselfish Wealth is...

We Don't Want To Just Make A Quick Buck!

We want to create a strong, long term teambuild that thousands upon thousands can benefit and profit from for years to come...

You just can't do that by building in the normal way...getting tons of personals and abandoning your members after they sign up with you.

You CAN'T do what the gurus do, so why compete on an unfair playing field?

So here's PART of how our system works...

Each of our team members work to acquire 4 personal referrals (the company matrix is a 4 wide)...

Once each member achieves this, they continue doing their usual promoting...but with our system there is a serious difference...and this is part of what is not understood by the person who thinks this is the same as the hype of spillover...

Let's say "Bob" has 4 personals already and keeps promoting his Unselfish Wealth website...and now someone signs up through Bob's site...

Our system "recognizes" that Bob has 4 personals, and reassigns that new signup as a personal referral (not spillover) to the next person below Bob who doesn't yet have their 4 personals.

Bob's downline member gets a new personal referral and the fast start $$ and matching matrix $$ associated with that new member...

You tell me...what would motivate a newer member to keep working to build their business on a team...

Spillover of a few members (if they get any at all) where they might earn a few cents per month just in matrix income...

Or a personal referral they received from the advertising of an "unselfish" upline member where they get the fast start cash and the matrix cash AND the matching matrix income down the road?

Which would keep you more interested?

We think the answer is obvious...and that's why we created Unselfish Wealth...to give a better opportunity for success to a large number of members...especially those who haven't been able to achieve it on their own...

This is a TEAM Building system...the more members on our team who already have 4 personals, the more who will be advertising to help those below their spot get their 4 personals...

Our system actually becomes MORE effective and valuable the larger our team becomes.

There is much more to the specifics of how our system works, but I'm going to stop there to hold some of our methods close for the moment...like I said before, it will all get out there fast enough anyway...

But I hope at least this answers the understandable skepticism that this is "hype" just like spillover was...

Without understanding the above summary of part of our system (and having the knowledge of how the rest of it works), I'd be skeptical myself.

NOW...on to the unfortunate accusations about Barry and Jim.

Please understand that I'm just giving the counter viewpoint, but I have information that the above person may not be aware of, so this is intended to round out the picture and help those who may not know the full story...

1. Barry and Jim were MEMBERS of ymmss, just as I was. Neither of them had any admin rights, responsibilities, authority, and certainly none of the income!

I can tell you for a fact that BOTH of these guys were far worse off financially after the failing of ymmss (later known as STA) than before, so they were harmed just as much as the other thousands of members in that fiasco.

The reason that some on the internet cast blame in their direction is that Kim Inman asked Barry and Jim to do conference call updates for him since they were active and well liked members in that program.

As the most known public face of the program, some blame Barry (and to a lesser extent Jim) for the failings of THE COMPANY...

Again, these guys were just members like myself...and they both lost money, just like I did...so the statement that these guys were "tied to Kim Inman and ymmss" is a partial truth...they were tied to them in that they were members...so were thousands of others...

I hope this clears that mess up...

Now as to TPSU...

Barry and Jim had created their own neat little program and were building that very well when they crossed paths with John Dierksmeier who had begun his own deal (I believe that was called My Secret Fortune, not completely sure on that though)...

John portrayed himself as a knowledgable and supportive admin sincerely interested in creating a large program where his members could find success.

Unfortunately, John did a very good job of selling himself in that way, and a partnership was formed...

Barry and Jim's program and Johns were merged into what became TPSU.

Barry and Jim would be the public face of the program and John would take care of the technical and financial admin duties.

VERY soon after that partnership was formed, more and more evidence began to mount up that John was difficult to work with, uncommunicative, and definitely not working in the best interests of the members.

I bailed out as soon as I began to suspect what was happening behind the scenes there, and told both Barry and Jim I felt this guy was bad news...

Unfortunately, I was right.

Barry and Jim gave too much control to John because he sold himself very well...

As a result, TPSU members began to not be paid on time (or in some cases were shorted or not paid at all), and it was John who held the payment controls...and once again, Barry and Jim were in the public eye since they were doing calls for the company.

After much wrangling with John to do things the right way, both Barry and Jim left TPSU because (as was rightly said earlier...at least in my experience and opinion)...John D proved himself to be far less than ethical...and that's putting it kindly.

Unfortunately, once again since Barry was the public face of the company, he gets a lot of the flack for that...even though he had nothing to do with the financial improprieties hoisted on members by John.

I totally agree with the statement that John is "bad news" because of my personal experience and the combined and consistent experiences of others I've seen on the net as well. I liked the idea of TVBox Net initially, but as soon as I learned John was at the helm, I ran the other way as fast as possible.

I won't belabor this further other than to say the following:

I know and implicitly trust Barry Eschenberg and Jim Reynolds after knowing both of them for several years...and also because I know the complete story behind the stuff being tossed around about them by a small contingency of folks who need more people to blame than only Kim Inman and John D.

Neither of them has an unethical bone in their body and I'm glad to know and be in business with both of these guys.

Just as an added FYI...neither Barry nor Jim is an admin in THIS business either...they are members who (along with a few others) have created a very generous and unique team building system that benefits newer members much more than any building system I've ever seen.

Anyone who has any doubt or skepticism about these guys should ask the following question...

If they are trying to scam anyone...

Why does their team building system GIVE AWAY personal referrals to newer members?

Why does their system GIVE AWAY fast start bonuses associated with those new signups?

Why does their system GIVE AWAY matching matrix income associated with those signups?

Facts are...if they were interested in scamming anyone, they wouldn't be part of a system that gives away so much CASH to other members...

So anyone reading this thread should fully review the Unselfish Wealth system for yourself and lock in your spot immediately...let the system show you what it does and how it does it...if you like what you see, great, if it's not for you, that's fine too...

All I know is this...if you join Stros, he'll be advertising to help get 4 personals for you since he already has 4 personals, and so will I, and so will my sponsor, and so will his sponsor...that's the way our system works.

I'm sorry this post has been so long, but these were important issues that I felt needed a more extensive post than the typical sharp and defensive retort that you usually see in forums when rumors or incorrect information is posted...

No back and forth barbs here...I fully understand the skepticism...if I didn't have the full story, I'd feel the same way.

Now, back to business...

Lock in your spot with Stros and see how our "Unselfish Wealth" System"is different than anything you've seen to date!
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:19 PM
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There is a Huge difference between Spillover and having Personal Sponsored members.

You can barely make money with spillover but with personally sponsored members, you get the Fast Start Bonus, the Matrix Matching bonus you can reach the bonus pools and much more.

Come and check out how our unique TEAM System works to help you succeed by giving you Personal Sponsors instead of Spillover.

In a matter of just days (Less than a week) my downline has grown to over 165 new members

Why is that?
Simple, check the video in the backoffice when you see the plan, then you will notice why so many are joining so fast!!
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you're bragging about building a downline of free members what is wrong with you? you will be lucky if 30 of them upgrade. not impressed. have u been part of any other teams that promised 2, 3 or 4 people will be placed under u? they fail 99% of the time. that is the ones promising 2. u think this will last?
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:53 PM
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See now, I was perfectly willing to assume this person simply may have been uninformed and had good intentions...

Now he comes in to put something down just for kicks...

I guess we know his agenda now.

Only time will tell how successful any venture will be...but those who sit on the sidelines will never benefit from those ventures that do become successful.

All I know is we've had a lot of interest and pre-registrations in less than 4 full days since our pre-launch sites became available.

We'll continue updating the progress in this thread and allow the readers to judge the results for themselves...although the smartest ones will lock in a spot with Stros now and benefit from the early positioning.

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this is a simple team build system similar to the forwarding feature that getaway club uses. no bi g deal really and will not last becasue people will drop out once they realize they are too far down the line and will get very impatient with waiting and paying monthly. you know it and i know it. it is very hard to make people happy when trying to get them 2 or even 3 referrals. this one promises 4. it will not happen. unless you people have figured out new mathematics
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this is a simple team build system similar to the forwarding feature that getaway club uses. no bi g deal really and will not last becasue people will drop out once they realize they are too far down the line and will get very impatient with waiting and paying monthly. you know it and i know it. it is very hard to make people happy when trying to get them 2 or even 3 referrals. this one promises 4. it will not happen. unless you people have figured out new mathematics
We are not giving anyone anything, we are simply advertising our business.
In this one the difference is that instead of just getting simple spillover that won't help at all normally, you are going to get Personal Referrals from who you will get Fast Start bonus, Matching Bonus, Matrix income & More.

In any MLM you should consider Spillover as a bonus and if you know about this business then you should also know about advertising.
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