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Declaration2
07-10-2006, 09:53 PM
Looks like all online betting with exception of horseracing is about to come to a screeching stop!!

Online Wagering Under Attack in Congress
Jul 10 3:02 PM US/Eastern

By NANCY ZUCKERBROD
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

Gamblers who prefer their laptops to blackjack tables won't like what Congress is doing. On Tuesday, the House plans to vote on a bill that would ban credit cards for paying online bets and could padlock gambling Web sites.

The legislation would clarify existing law to spell out that it is illegal to gamble online.

To enforce that ban, the bill would prohibit credit cards and other payment forms, such as electronic transfers, from being used to settle online wagers. It also would give law enforcement officials the authority to work with Internet providers to block access to gambling Web sites.

Some opponents of the legislation say policing the Internet is impossible, that it would be better to regulate the $12 billion industry and collect taxes from it. The online gambling industry is based almost entirely outside the United States, though about half its customers live in the U.S.

Other critics complain that the bill doesn't cover all forms of gambling. They point to exemptions they say would allow online lotteries and Internet betting on horse racing to flourish.

"If you're going to support legislation that is supposed to 'prohibit gambling,' you should not have carve-outs," said Andrea Lafferty, executive director of the conservative Traditional Values Coalition.

Other conservative and antigambling groups are supporting the legislation, sponsored by Reps. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Jim Leach, R-Iowa.

John Kindt, a business professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign who has studied the issue, calls the Internet "the crack cocaine" of gambling.

"There are no needle marks. There's no alcohol on the breath. You just click the mouse and lose your house," he said.

Congress has considered similar bills several times before. In 2000, disgraced lobbyist Jack Ambramoff led a fierce campaign against it on behalf of an online lottery company.

Online lotteries are allowed in the latest bill, largely at the behest of states that increasingly rely on lotteries to augment tax revenues.

Pro-sports leagues also like the bill, arguing that Web wagering could hurt the integrity of their sports.

The horse racing industry also supports the bill because of the exemption it would get. Horse racing states would not be prohibited from any activity allowed under the Internet Horseracing Act. That law written in the 1970s set up rules for interstate betting on racing. It was updated a few years ago to clarify that betting on horse racing over the Internet is allowed.

Greg Avioli, chief executive officer of the National Thoroughbred Racing Association, said the mention of horse racing in the bill is "a recognition of existing federal law," not a new carve-out.

He said the racing industry has a strong future in the digital age and acknowledged the bill would send Internet gamblers to racing sites. "They'd return to the one place they can bet legally," Avioli said.

That's what some critics say is unfair.

"Somehow we find ourselves in a situation where Congress has gotten in the business of cherry-picking types of gambling," complained Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Fla. Wexler had tried unsuccessfully to include exemptions for dog racing and jai alai, both popular in Florida.

The Justice Department has taken a different view on the legality of Internet betting on horse races. In a World Trade Organization case involving Antigua, the department said online betting on horse racing remains illegal under the 1961 Wire Act despite the existence of the more recently passed Interstate Horseracing Act.

The department hasn't actively enforced its stance, but observers say it is possible the agency and the racing industry could face off in court in the future.

Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., is leading support for the ban in the Senate. The issue has so far not been debated in that chamber this year.

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The bill is H.R.4411

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pluggy
07-10-2006, 10:07 PM
Ah, the US, you can drive at 16 but can't drink until 21, you can't gamble but you can hold firearms....... crazy nation :)

TravisBickle
07-11-2006, 05:37 AM
Looks like all online betting with exception of horseracing is about to come to a screeching stop!!

Online Wagering Under Attack in Congress
Jul 10 3:02 PM US/Eastern

By NANCY ZUCKERBROD
Associated Press Writer

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This bill may pass the house but it will not pass the senate before the mid term elections. REPEAT IT WILL NOT PASS IN THE SENATE.

It may be brought up multiple times after that, at any rate the point is nothing has changed and there is no imminent danger for us (USA).

threezero
07-11-2006, 06:28 AM
so typical, ban everything they cannot profit and is unwilling to take the effort to profit from. First marijuana now types of gambling. I'm glad i live in canada land

Profit-Watcher
07-11-2006, 09:24 AM
...and i am glad i live in Greece!
The usa government thinks that it can control the whole world
:lolol:

aegist
07-11-2006, 01:04 PM
...and i am glad i live in Greece!
The usa government thinks that it can control the whole world
:lolol:
I'd be careful there greece-person....greece isn't too far from the middle east! Once america has control of there, you never know where they might go next!

At least down here in Australia people tend to forget we even exist. lets us get away with most stuff

dtm
07-11-2006, 03:02 PM
At least down here in Australia people tend to forget we even exist. lets us get away with most stuff

Well Aegist, I always thought the ozzies have one of the most restrictive governments in the Western world (the more now being US state No 51)

They allow access to Betfair, ok, but no inplay betting. What the heck has the government to do what betting I do? It is still better over here in Europe where I live right now. At least when they get to restrictive I can rent a flat 2 hrs drive from here in another country and do my work (betting) from there :-)

eagleeye
07-11-2006, 04:34 PM
Wow.... I'm glad I have dual citizenship so I can logon to a server back home (Canada) and still bet........ I sure miss Canada sometimes except for the weather of course...

aegist
07-12-2006, 05:13 AM
Yeah, that inplay gambling law is crazy here in Australia. Seems like everything else is fair game though....Not sure if anyone pays attention to it though (i haven't done it!), its not like thought police are watching us yet.

Profit-Watcher
07-13-2006, 09:39 PM
Again......and i am glad i live in Greece!
:banana:

yakskywalker3
07-13-2006, 09:44 PM
america>>>>>>any of your contries

eagleeye
07-14-2006, 01:42 AM
They should concentrate on getting out of Irak first....... What a joke... Buy a gun....... and kill......throw your kids in jail for smoking weed....do not allow nudity on your tvs.......but plenty of killing is cool....sick nation...........

yakskywalker3
07-14-2006, 01:45 AM
if america is so bad home come people from all your countries migrate here to live??

I dont know why people are so jelous of the USA, stop sounding so ignorant people!

TravisBickle
07-14-2006, 04:45 AM
They should concentrate on getting out of Irak first....... What a joke... Buy a gun....... and kill......throw your kids in jail for smoking weed....do not allow nudity on your tvs.......but plenty of killing is cool....sick nation...........

Very astute, yes you have summed up the country nicely right there in that synopsis, hence your name, eagleeye.

Are you a bald eagle?