Grayhounds Lay for tomorrow morning.

[gilraen]

Well i will test lay greyhound,any ideas i would thanks.My pick to lay for tomorrow morning are:

Perry Barr BAGS
11.19 11.34 11.48 12.04 12.18 12.32 12.47 13.04 13.19 13.33 13.51 14.06

Traps: 5 3 1 6 6 5 4 6 3 6 1 5

------------------------------------------------------------
Hove BAGS
11.28 11.43 11.58 12.13 12.27 12.42 12.58 13.12 13.27 13.44 13.58 14.12

Traps: 2 3 6 5 4 2 3 4 1 3 3 4

[FPGbetting]

Not bad... in perry barr i think only 1 'lost' but the problem was it was a 'heavy' loss due to its odds. At hove there were 2 'losers' but the 1 was also heavy but not the other

[gilraen]

MY TRAPS
5 7\2 (ODDS FROM ONE SITE BUT I DIDNT FOLLOW THEM)
3 5\1
1 5\1
6 4\1
6 6\1
5 5\1
4 7\2
6 4\1
3 3\1
6 4\1
1 7\2
5 5\1
P. BARR

RESULT
3TH 3\1 (ODDS FROM OTHER SITE WHRE I SEE THE RESULTS)
2TH 4\1
5TH 3\1
6TH 5\1
4TH 5\1
2TH 5\1
2TH 6\1
4TH 5\1
1TH 9\2
5TH 9\2
3TH 4\1
4TH 6\1
P.BARR
-----------------------------------------------
MY RESULT
2 9\2 5TH 5\1
3 5\1 4TH 4\1
6 6\1 1TH 3\15 5\1 4TH 8\1
4 4\1 6TH 6\1
2 5\1 6TH 8\1
3 4\1 1TH 4\1
4 7\2 6TH 5\1
1 9\2 3TH 3\1
3 9\2 5TH 7\1
3 6\1 3TH 7\1
4 9\2 6th 8\1
HOVE HOVE

[gilraen]

My Traps Fo Oxford Are:

traps
6 5\1
1 5\1
1 9\2
4 6\1
6 5\1
4 7\2
6 4\1
1 9\2
6 5\1
4 9\2
2 5\1
5 5\1
5 4\1
1 7\2
oxford

Sorry For Being Late.

[gilraen]

MY RESULT
6 5\1 5TH 7\2
1 5\1 2TH 7\1
1 9\2 5TH 8\1
4 6\1 4TH 6\1
6 5\1 4TH 3\1
4 7\2 6TH 9\2
6 4\1 4TH 3\1
1 9\2 5TH 9\2
6 5\1 6TH 8\1
4 9\2 6TH 9\2
2 5\1 5TH 5\1
5 5\1 5TH 6\1
5 4\1 3TH 9\2
1 7\2 3th 5\2
OXFORD

Well, first day 38 races, 35 won, 3 lost

[Aquilae]

Congrate M8,
Keep up the good work

[gilraen]

Hello, this are the lay picks for tomorrow, lets see what happends.

TRAPS TRAPS
1 4\1 1 6\1 : 2 4\1
4 7\2 3 \51
4 7\2 1 9\2
1 7\2 1 6\1
5 5\1 1 5\1
6 7\2 1 5\1
6 4\1 6 6\1
1 8\1 6 6\1
2 7\2 1 5\1
4 5\1 1 5\1
6 4\1 1 9\2
5 5\1 2 3\1
SWINDON SHEFFIELD

--------------------------------------
TRAPS TRAPS
4 4\1 2 4\1
2 4\1 1 9\2
2 4\1 3 5\1
5 5\1 1 5\1
4 7\2 : 5 7\2 5 5\1
6 5\1 5 5\1
1 9\2 3 9\2
3 9\2 5 5\1
2 9\2 3 5\1
1 5\1 1 4\1
1 9\2 2 5\1
6 5\1 1 9\2
6 6\1 6 9\2
5 4\1 4 5\1
MONMORE WALTTOW

[gilraen]

Sorry for post again but i think its better.

TRAPS ODDS
1 4\1
4 7\2
4 7\2
1 7\2
5 5\1
6 7\2
6 4\1
1 8\1
2 7\2
4 5\1
6 4\1
5 5\1
SWINDON
-----------
TRAPS ODDS
1 6\1 : 2 4\1
3 \51
1 9\2
1 6\1
1 5\1
1 5\1
6 6\1
6 6\1
1 5\1
1 5\1
1 9\2
2 3\1 ?
SHEFFIELD
---------------
TRAPS ODDS
4 4\1
2 4\1
2 4\1
5 5\1
4 7\2 : 5 7\2
6 5\1
1 9\2
3 9\2
2 9\2
1 5\1
1 9\2
6 5\1
6 6\1
5 4\1
MONMORE
----------------
TRAPS ODDS
2 4\1
1 9\2
3 5\1
1 5\1
5 5\1
5 5\1
3 9\2
5 5\1
3 5\1
1 4\1
2 5\1
1 9\2
6 9\2
4 5\1
WALTTOW

[gilraen]

Morning results:

TRAP RESULT TRAP RESULT
1 4\1 2th 4\1 1 6\1 1th 9\2
4 7\2 5th 7\2 3 5\1 6th 6\1
4 7\2 6th 7\2 1 9\2 2th 3\1
1 7\2 4th 7\2 1 6\1 5th 11\2
5 5\1 3th 4\1 1 5\1 3th 4\1
6 7\2 6th 4\1 1 5\1 5th 6\1
6 4\1 5th 9\2 6 6\1 6th 8\1
1 8\1 2th 3\1 6 6\1 3th 4\1
2 7\2 6th 6\1 1 5\1 1th 3\1
4 5\1 5th 7\2 1 5\1 4th 6\1
6 4\1 6th 9\2 1 9\2 5th 6\1
5 5\1 4th 6\1 2 3\1 1th 4\1
SWINDON SHEFFIELD

[gilraen]

MY RESULT
4 4\1 6th 6\1
2 4\1 5th 5\1
2 4\1 6th 6\1
5 5\1 4th 8\1
4 7\2 5th 7\2
6 5\1 5th 8\1
1 9\2 6th 8\1
3 9\2 4th 4\1
2 9\2 5th 7\1
1 5\1 6th 7\1
1 9\2 5th 5\1
6 5\1 5th 3\1
6 6\1 6th 8\1
5 4\1 3th 5\1
MONMORE
------------------------

MY RESULT
2 4\1 3th 5\1
1 9\2 4th 4\1
3 5\1 3th 7\1
1 5\1 6th 8\1
5 5\1 6th 8\1
5 5\1 4th 6\1
3 9\2 2th 5\1
5 5\1 6th 10\1
3 5\1 5th 9\2
1 4\1 2th 4\1
2 5\1 6th 8\1
1 9\2 3th 5\1
6 9\2 1th 6\1
4 5\1 6th 6\1
WALTTOW
---------------
Today results 52 races, 48 won, 4 lost.
Does anyone lay greyhounds?

[cashmee]

threre are greyhounds in the place i bet can u pls tell me some good tips becouse i see u have won 38 of 42 races?
pls
thx

[o1owen]

Some nice laying there keep up the good work

[gilraen]

Hello, well there are greyhounds that i pick in places too, well first never bet following the odds from the sites, just pick the dogs names search for data from them and analyse the finnishing times, 1ºs bend times, the classes and try to see if his times means that he is in form and them chose the worst you think it is no matter what odds.I dont know if this helped you.:thumbs up

[gilraen]

Picks For 12-09-2006
--------------------
My Traps
2 5\1
5 9\2
5 5\1
5 6\1
2 4\1
5 5\1
2 5\1
3 \41
4 5\1
3 4\1
6 9\2
4 9\2
Notting.
------------------------
My Traps
2 4\1
5 4\1
2 9\2
1 9\2
6 9\2
6 7\2
6 9\2
6 4\1
4 9\2
3 9\2
3 9\2
1 5\1
Oxford
-----------------------
My Traps
1 9\2
2 9\2
2 7\2
6 4\1
5 5\1
4 7\2
4 7\2
1 4\1
4 4\1
4 4\1
5 7\2
2 4\1
2 4\1
4 4\1
Crayford
-----------------------------
My Traps
2 4\1
2 5\1
5 9\2
5 9\2
4 4\1
1 9\2
4 7\2
1 6\1
3 4\1
5 4\1
4 5\1
5 5\1
2 9\2
1 9\2
Sunderl.
---------------------
Well I Had Lot Of Difficulty To Chose A Dog At Sunderland Lets See What Happens.

[cashmee]

i didnt understan anything (sorry not an englishmen) so my question will be how can i put the same bets u choose, i mean what hour which dog etc.
in my bookie they have only the hour and odds of the dogs no info at all

[gilraen]

Sorry for that. Well in my posts u see the races name like Crayford, Oxford..so the first pick its the first hour,first race,and follow them till last one.
The trap to lay its the first number and teh odd aside, it was the odd in a site i saw,but i dont follow them, i analyse the times of the dogs and choose the one i think its worst.I think you must do the same and not follow my pick,take just for reference, you can have other openions about the worst dog.What bookie you use?

[gilraen]

i use this sites :

http://www.racingpost.co.uk/ (http://www.racingpost.co.uk)

http://www.sportinglife.com/

http://www.betfair.com/

http://www.greyhound-data.com/

Witch sites you use? Post your picks here too

[laydalooza]

Today results 52 races, 48 won, 4 lost.
Does anyone lay greyhounds?

I would love to.

But I learned it is as unpredictable as roulette.

Please keep posting your selections, looks good.

[gilraen]

12-09-2006 results

MY TRAPS---- RESULT
2 5\1---- 5th 6\1
5 9\2---- 4th 6\1
5 5\1---- 1th 11\2
5 6\1---- 6th 6\1
2 4\1---- NO INFO
5 5\1---- 4th 11\4
2 5\1---- 4th 4\1
3 4\1---- 6th 4\1
4 5\1---- 5th 6\1
3 4\1---- 2th 9\2
6 9\2---- 4th 6\1
4 9\2---- 6th 6\1
NOTTING.
-----------------------
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
2 4\1---- 2th 6\1
5 4\1---- 4th 5\1
2 9\2---- 3th 5\1
1 9\2---- 1th 4\1
6 9\2---- 1th 6\1
6 7\2---- 4th 3\1
6 9\2---- 1th 6\1
6 4\1---- 5th 6\1
4 9\2---- 4th 8\1
3 9\2---- 5th 8\1
3 9\2---- 6th 5\1
1 5\1---- 1th 8\1
OXFORD
--------------------------
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
1 9\2---- 2th 4\1
2 9\2---- 6th 7\2
2 7\2---- 6th 5\2
6 4\1---- 6th 4\1
5 5\1---- 6th 4\1
4 7\2---- 3th 3\1
4 7\2---- 6th 7\2
1 4\1---- 1th 7\2
4 4\1---- 4th 9\2
4 4\1---- 5th 7\2
5 7\2---- 1th 4\1
2 4\1---- 1th 4\1
2 4\1---- 4th 7\2
4 4\1---- 3th 7\2
CRAYFORD
----------------------------
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
2 4\1---- 2th 6\1
2 5\1---- 2th 10\1
5 9\2---- 1th 6\1
5 9\2---- 3th 6\1
4 4\1---- 5th 4\1
1 9\2---- 5th 5\2
4 7\2---- 6th 7\2
1 6\1---- 6th 7\1
3 4\1---- 1th 6\1
5 4\1---- 5th 4\1
4 5\1---- 3th 6\1
5 5\1---- 6th 4\1
2 9\2---- 4th 5\2
1 9\2---- 5th 4\1
SUNDERL.
--------------------------------
Well today i missed 10 dogs, it was to much,but yesterday i knew it because there were a lot of races that i had dificulty to choose one looser.
The truth is we dont have to bet every race, if we have some douts,better not bet.But never follow the odd from the sites,first off all watch for all times of at least the last 7,8 races of each dog and do your judgement.
Today 52 races...42 wins...10 lost
TOTAL since 11-09-2006...142 races...125 wins...17 lost

[gilraen]

Picks For 13-09-2006
------------------------
My Traps
4 9\2
2 5\1
4 5\1
5 5\1
2 5\1
2 9\2
1 4\1
6 5\1
2 5\1
6 9\2
6 5\1
6 5\1
Hall Green
----------------------
My Traps
3 7\2
1 4\1
6 5\1
1 5\1
5 4\1
5 4\1
2 4\1
6 7\2
6 5\1
Hard To Choose Maybe 6
4 4\1
1 4\1
B. Park
-----------------------------
My Traps
4 4\1
4 4\1
5 4\1
5 5\1
1 5\1
1 5\1
3 5\1
2 11\4
1 9\2
4 5\1
Hard To Choose Maybe 1
5 7\2 ? Dout
2 9\2
2 9\2
Hove
-----------------------------
My Traps
5 9\2
4 9\2
1 4\1
5 7\2
2 5\1
4 5\1
3 5\1
5 4\1
6 6\1
3 7\2
3 9\2
6 5\1
6 4\1
2 4\1
P.barr
----------------------------
Hopping A Better Day Tomorrow.

[gilraen]

Thanks DTM for your PM.Any other advice you want to give me or any question PM me.

[sLoX]

I have a question. This is so good that if i put 10 euros at every, at the end of the day i will be at huge gain?

[sLoX]

Nice work man. I have a queston for you. If I put at every race same amount of money at the end of the day i will earn some money?

[sLoX]

Nice work man! I have a question. If i put same amound of money on every race at the end of the day i will earn some money?

[gilraen]

sLoX Nice work man! I have a question. If i put same amound of money on every race at the end of the day i will earn some money?

That depends of your looses,when you pick a dog to loose and he win.
Let see if u Lay a dog with 10 of odd,and bet 10$.You get 10$ if he dont win and if he looses you loose 10$ x 10 odd - 10$ = 90$.That depends every LAy bet,how many looses you have.Its almost impossible get profit and the and of the day if you dont follow some betting system when you loose.Something like when you loose the following race you bet the amouth of $ to get in profit if the dog dont you.Or for exemple betting half what you had loose in the next race.Well its what i am trying to do.Did it helped you?

[sLoX]

I am sorry but i dont understand you. :sad1: because it seems that i dont know what is Lay the dog. Sorry

[gilraen]

RESULTS OF 13-09-2006

MY TRAPS---- RESULT
4 9\2---- 2th 7\2
2 5\1---- 5th 9\2
4 5\1---- 4th 6\1
5 5\1---- 5th 4\1
2 5\1---- 5th 5\1
2 9\2---- 1th 11\4
1 4\1---- 5th 6\1
6 5\1---- 2th 6\1
2 5\1---- 5th 5\1
6 9\2---- 5th 7\1
6 5\1---- 2th 6\1
6 5\1---- 6th 6\1
HALL GREEN
---------------------------
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
3 7\2---- 1th 11\4
1 4\1---- 4th 4\1
6 5\1---- 6th 5\1
1 5\1---- 4th 3\1
5 4\1---- 5th 4\1
5 4\1---- 2th 4\1
2 4\1---- 2th 4\1
6 7\2---- 3th 3\1
6 5\1---- 1th 3\1
MAYBE T6----3th 9\4
4 4\1---- 6th 7\2
1 4\1---- 2th 6\4
B. PARK
---------------------------
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
4 4\1---- 5th 5\1
4 4\1---- 4th 5\1
5 4\1---- 3th 7\2
5 5\1---- 5th 5\1
1 5\1---- 1th 6\1
1 5\1---- 6th 5\1
3 5\1---- 4th 6\1
2 11\4----2th 3\1
1 9\2---- 5th 9\2
4 5\1---- 1th 3\1
MAYBE T1----5th 5\1
5 7\2 ?----2th 4\1
2 9\2---- 3th 9\2
2 9\2---- 2th 9\2
HOVE
---------------------------------
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
5 9\2---- 6th 5\1
4 9\2---- 3th 5\1
1 4\1---- 2th 9\2
5 7\2---- 5th 8\1
2 5\1---- 4th 5\1
4 5\1---- 2th 9\2
3 5\1---- 4th 6\1
5 4\1---- 5th 7\2
6 6\1---- 3th 7\1
3 7\2---- 5th 6\1
3 9\2---- 6th 7\2
6 5\1---- 1th 3\1
6 4\1---- 3th 4\1
2 4\1---- 2th 6\1
P.BARR
-----------------------------
TODAY 52 RACES...46 WINS...6 LOST
TOTAL 194 RACES...171 WINS...23 LOST
-----------------------------
WELL A BETTER DAY THEM YESTERDAY,BUT I THINK IT STILL BAD
LAYING A DOG WE HAVE 83.3% OF WINNING CHANCES WHEN IT MADE AT RANDOM, I AM TRYING TO CHOOSE ACCORDING THEYRE DATA (RACES TIMES,ETC),I THINK I AM LOOSING TO MANY RACES,SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE WAY I ANALYSE THEM OTHERWISE THIS IS A LOTTERY.

[gilraen]

Today 06:36 PM
sLoX I am sorry but i dont understand you. because it seems that i dont know what is Lay the dog. Sorry


WELL, YOU CAN BETTING A DOG BACKING HIM OR LAYING HIM.
BACK A DOG IS WHEN YOU CHOOSE THE DOG TO WIN ,AND YOU ONLY WIN YOUR BET IF THE DOG WINS.
LAYING A DOG IS WHEN YOU ARE BETTING AGAINST THAT DOG, THAT DOG CANT WIN,CAN FINNISH 2º 3º 4º 5º 6º, BUT NOT WIN.
LET SAY IF THE ODD FOR BACKING A DOG IS 9 AND U BET 10$, IF HE WINS, YOU WIN 9 X 10$ - 10$ = 80$ PROFIT, IF HE DONT WIN YOU LOST THE 10$
LET SAY IF THE ODD TO LAY A DOG IS 10 AND U BET 10$,IF HE DONT WIN U GET 10$, BUT IF HE WIN U LOOSE 10$ X 10 - 10$ = 90$.
DID YOU UNDERSTUD?

[sLoX]

OK! Thanks!
Now I understand, but here i dont have that kind of game. I can only bet at winner. Anyway thanks for effort!

[cashmee]

i have the same game here, i can only choose the dog to win, any help?

[dtm]

i have the same game here, i can only choose the dog to win, any help?

You go to betfair and lay, thats it. Betdaq may do as well.

If you are in a restricted country like China, USA or North Korea you might instead dutch all others, which has the same effect.

[gilraen]

Picks For 14-09-2006..is Anyone Batting In Greyhounds?

My Traps
5--5\1
6--5\1
5--5\1
3--7\2
1--5\1
3--4\1
2--5\1
4--9\2
1--9\2
1--5\1
1--5\1
1--6\1
Sunderl.
-----------------
My Traps
2--9\2
1--4\1
3--9\2
2--5\1
5--9\2
3--9\2
2--5\1
4--5\1
5--6\1
3--6\1
6--9\2
1--6\1
Sheffield
-----------------
My Traps
4--7\2
1--5\1
3--7\2
1--9\2
2--9\2
4--4\1
6--4\1
5--5\1
1--4\1
3--4\1
3--11\2
2--4\1
4--9\2
1--7\2
Romford
--------------------
My Traps
4--6\1
5--4\1
3--7\2
4--9\2
1--7\2
1--4\1
4--4\1
3--4\1
5--7\2
4--4\1
4--4\1
1--4\1
4--7\2
5--4\1
Crayford
--------------------

[gilraen]

MORNING RESULTS 14-09-2006
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
5 5\1---- 6th 7\1
6 5\1---- 3th 6\1
5 5\1---- 6th 7\1
3 7\2---- 4th 2\1
1 5\1---- 4th 10\1
3 4\1---- 1th 10\1 OMFG UNBELIVEBLE
2 5\1---- 4th 6\1
4 9\2---- 3th 4\1
1 9\2---- 6th 7\1
1 5\1---- 2th 4\1
1 5\1---- 5th 5\1
1 6\1-----3th 4\1
SUNDERL.
-----------------------
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
2 9\2---- 3th 7\2
1 4\1---- 5th 10\1
3 9\2---- 3th 4\1
2 5\1---- 2th 5\1
5 9\2---- 6th 7\1
3 9\2---- 4th 8\1
2 5\1---- 2th 7\2
4 5\1---- 2th 10\1
5 6\1---- 5th 10\1
3 6\1---- 2th 6\1
6 9\2---- 4th 3\1
1 6\1---- 3th 6\1
SHEFFIELD

[gilraen]

MY TRAPS---- RESULT
4 7\2---- 6th 3\1
1 5\1---- 3th 5\1
3 7\2---- 6th 7\2
1 9\2---- 4th 7\1
2 9\2---- 3th 11\2
4 4\1---- 5TH 5\1
6 4\1---- 6th 5\2
5 5\1---- 6th 6\1
1 4\1---- 3th 5\1
3 4\1---- 3th 9\2
3 11\2---4th 7\1
2 4\1---- 4th 5\1
4 9\2---- 2th 5\1
1 7\2---- 5th 5\1
ROMFORD
------------------------
MY TRAPS---- RESULT
4 6\1---- 5th 5\1
5 4\1---- 3th 9\2
3 7\2---- 2th 7\2
4 9\2---- 5th 5\1
1 7\2---- 5th 4\1
1 4\1---- 3th 5\1
4 4\1---- 1th 7\2
3 4\1---- 5th 3\1
5 7\2---- 6th 4\1
4 4\1---- 1th 4\1
4 4\1---- 5th 4\1
1 4\1---- 3th 5\1
4 7\2---- 5th 2\1
5 4\1---- 6th 7\2
CRAYFORD
------------------------
TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY
52 RACES...49 WINS...3 LOOSES
TOTAL OF 246 RACES...220 WINS...26 LOST

[gilraen]

SINCE STARTED THE DOGS IVED PICKED TO LAY FINNISHED:

26 in 1th
31 in 2th
38 in 3th
40 in 4th
55 in 5th
53 in 6th

I THINK NO ONE LIKE DOGS.....

[TravisBickle]

Good Job. You're winning!

[ktodary1]

amazing records :)

[mohitkumar]

Hi. Please continue to post your pics in this thread. I am making a good profit by
following your selections. Would you please tell me your system of selection.

[gilraen]

if anyone want to talk about greyhounds or else can add me at MSN

gilraen1980@hotmail.com

[mohitkumar]

Gilraen. Do you have yahoo messenger id.

[gilraen]

Sorry I Dont Just Do A Hotmail, Download The Msn And Had Me

[manmah00]

Sorry for being such a big newbie..but how can I interpret you tables...sir

[FPGbetting]

im guessing the time race and after the "/" is the trap number to LAY against

[gilraen]

Laying traps for tomorrow:

Swindon BAGS
12.18-trap 1
12.47-trap 4
13.19-trap 6
----------------
Sheffield BAGS
11.11-trap 1
12.12-trap 3
12.58-trap 1
14.03-trap 1
------------------
Monmore BAGS
15.07-trap 3
15.28-trap 3
------------------
Walthamstow BAGS
14.18-trap 2
15.17-trap 2
17.33-trap 1
18.04-trap 2

[gilraen]

Well this dog Walthamstow BAGS 17.33-trap 1 with 8\1 odd won.I was analysing his times with the other runners and was from far the worst.
All the other lost. So i give up from greyhounds they are unpredictable.

[manmah00]

Lol..I took a paper-trade with that exact dog...quite unpredictable as you said..thought it was a sure win.

[harold90]

Well this dog Walthamstow BAGS 17.33-trap 1 with 8\1 odd won.I was analysing his times with the other runners and was from far the worst.
All the other lost. So i give up from greyhounds they are unpredictable.

hi
i don't think you should give up greyhounds just because of 1 (high price winner/loser). you have a superb record.
perhaps you could consider making less picks & concentrating on fewer races?
anyway i for one would like you to continue posting, & in any way you decide.
don't give up.
regards
harold

[gilraen]

Harold90 it wasnt just because one pick, its because it takes me a lot of time analysing all the runners and pick the worst.
First i was picking all races just for test, i know i should just pick fewer races.it was what ived done last time.

[fai0302]

Laying traps for tomorrow:

Swindon BAGS
12.18-trap 1
12.47-trap 4
13.19-trap 6
----------------
Sheffield BAGS
11.11-trap 1
12.12-trap 3
12.58-trap 1
14.03-trap 1
------------------
Monmore BAGS
15.07-trap 3
15.28-trap 3
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Walthamstow BAGS
14.18-trap 2
15.17-trap 2
17.33-trap 1
18.04-trap 2

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