124 consecutive winning bets

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi guys,

I'm not on here for any monetary gain - just thought I'd start putting up my lays on the site in order to maintain my discipline.

I have been laying horses for a couple of years and have made some very pleasant profits. As is alluded to in the title, I have put together fantastic winning runs - the best of these was one hundred and twenty four.

I should point out that the prices I lay at will put many people off. Often the prices on BF are around 20 - 28/1. People scoff at this, but to £100 level stakes the 124 would have brought in a profit of just under 12k after commission. I'm sure most people could tolerate a 2.5k loss at this point for a 9k + net profit. I am not suggesting anybody follow my selections as I have a strong conscience and don't advocate the high liabilities of my bets. My average lay's liability now constitutes about 5% of my bank. Money management is key, as I'm certain you all know.

Cheers guys.

PS Now watch as everything goes t*ts up. Ha ha.

[Experthorselayer]

interesting :D

[Experthorselayer]

Iwannaletgo i saw your PM ,i cant send to you because dont have 25 posts, i would like to talk with you in MSN if possible just send me a PM with you email.Thanks

[Iwannaletgo]

done :thumbs up

[Iwannaletgo]

Here goes then.

I am out and about tomorrow, so I want to avoid aftertiming with my post. It's currently 1.30am ish UK time. I have no BF prices for these selections as yet, but they are all around 10 - 14/1 on RPost's site.

Ludlow
2.00 - Khadija
3.00 - Dan's Heir
4.30 Cash in Hand

Ayr
2.50 - Scrappie
3.20 - Joyful jack
5.20 - Sodantay

Can't say I'm completely confident about these selections, but that could be exposure nerves.

[weddings]

Good luck - I'll be interested in seeing how things go!

[Iwannaletgo]

Ok - here are some prices as at 12.30pm

Ludlow
2.00 - Khadija 38 (I'll leave this as it's too big)
3.00 - Dan's Heir 27
4.30 Cash in Hand 26

Ayr
2.50 - Scrappie 21
3.20 - Joyful jack 15
5.20 - Sodantay 28

Cheers

[Kursk1943]

Hi, looks very interesting, look forward to this thread, do you have any problems getting matched?
Good luck for today.

[Experthorselayer]

Ludlow
2.00 - Khadija - 38 (I'll leave this as it's too big) - 2nd - :ro_emote_ - 7 lengths distance
3.00 - Dan's Heir - 27 - 11th - :ro_emote_
4.30 Cash in Hand - 26 - 6th - :ro_emote_

Ayr
2.50 - Scrappie - 21 - 4th - :ro_emote_
3.20 - Joyful jack - 15 - PU - :ro_emote_
5.20 - Sodantay - 28 - 4th - :ro_emote_

[cheffe2]

have you monitored your selections also with placelays?
at these prices it could be a attractive alternative

[Iwannaletgo]

have you monitored your selections also with placelays?
at these prices it could be a attractive alternative

Hi Cheffe,

Thanks for your comment. Interestingly enough I was talking to a friend earlier today and mentioned this very thing. My selections - although in my opinion all but unable to win the race - do seemingly have a knack for finishing in the first three. I have kept no good records, so am unable to assert whether or not I am just more aware of a place as it's something of a 'turn up' or it does in fact occur with reasonable regularity.

No need to post today's results as 'expert' has kindly taken the trouble on my behalf.

[Iwannaletgo]

No selections for Friday, 23rd.

'See' you all on Saturday.

Cheers

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi,

Wasn't really focussed last night so played it safe by opting out. However, I have looked again today and have one lay selection:

Wolv 3.30 - Homes by woodford (20)

Had a long look at Desert Hawk in the 2.20 but one of my criterian was not met; pointless having a systematic approach and then not implementing it.

Cheers.

[Iwannaletgo]

result:

Wolv 3.30 - Homes by woodford (20) 3rd

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi all,

Time to make this more interesting. The only way to do that is to add a finacial aspect.

I won't be revealing my actual bank, but will use in its stead a virtual bank of £1000 to keep things simple.

I will be largely borrowing my staking system from a well-known layer. A truly gracious person, I'm sure she won't mind.

As I said in my original post, I have been doing this for a while now and usually implement two levels of liability - 5% and 7% depending on price. So the new staking isn't too far removed.

here are the price bands and percentage of bank I will use as a stake:

15 and under - 0.8%
16 - 20 - 0.6%
21 and over - 0.4%

Bank will be updated daily for altered staking.

As this is the STAKE and not the liability, the risk is a little higher than some will be comfortable with. With this system one really has to be comfortable with the notion of large lumps being lost, but, hopefully, very infrequently.

Here's how things have gone so far

3.00 - Dan's Heir 27 £4
4.30 Cash in Hand 26 £4

Ayr
2.50 - Scrappie 21 £4
3.20 - Joyful jack 15 £8
5.20 - Sodantay 28 £4

Wolv 3.30 - Homes by woodford 20 £6



Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) so far: £28.5
Tomorrow's bank: £1028.5
Tomorrow's stakes: £8.22, £6.17 and £4.11

Hope this makes some sense :crazy:

[Iwannaletgo]

Today's:

Bangor

2.45 Mag num
3.55 Auburn Duke

Navan

4.00 Jim 16.5

[Iwannaletgo]

Results

Bangor

2.45 Mag num 29 :ro_emote_ £4.11
3.55 Auburn Duke 18 :ro_emote_ £6.17

Navan 4.00 Jim 16.5 :ro_emote_ £6.17

Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £ 15.62
Tomorrow's bank: £1044
Tomorrow's stakes: £8.35, £6.26 and £4.17

[dtm]

Hi IWLG,

hows your xpoker going, we were in contact long time ago about automation. No more poker for me since I live in Australia now, where we are blocked from xgames.

Good luck with your lays. The staking plan and results reportings seems very familiar to me. Are you planing, too, to let it run for one year and then stop with 100K ;-)

If so I should start following you straightaway not to miss out as I did with M.
cheers
dtm

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi dtm,

Thanks for your comments. I played around with the X-games for a while. Made a nice amount but then lost a fair bit of it ans recognised a pattern of my profits being gradually 'sucked back' and so stopped playing. I came away with a profit and, from what I understand in reading the forum, I am the exception rather than the rule. Phew.

As I said in an earlier post, I did decide to use M's staking and reporting. My own staking was very similar anyway - just a few tweaks which obviously have proved profitable. I also think that reporting monetary gains mean far more to people than points. Maybe that's just me.

As for the 100k; highly unlikely from a £1000 starting bank. It took M about four months to double her bank so if I achieved that I would still be well down on her starting bank. The good news is, I've been doing this for a couple of years already ;-)

[Iwannaletgo]

Southwell

3.30 imperial dream

was also going to lay Nodform William in the 5.00, but a couple of non runners have cancelled the bet. Wtch with interest.

[Iwannaletgo]

Imperial dream is a non-runner.

In its place I am laying Kalmo Bay in the 3.30

Matched at 15.5

This one will probably win and I'll desever it for going for a 'second choice'.
I am confident I have only some people following with a curiosity - if anyone is following my bets, you've been warned. :ro_emote_

It's aftertiming (because I was out), but I also had a small lay on Donovan in the 2.30 - finished 4th. This one will not count on my stats of course.

[Iwannaletgo]

Kalmo Bay 15.5 £6.26 :ro_emote_


Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £ 5.95
Tomorrow's bank: £1050
Tomorrow's stakes: £8.4, £6.3 and £4.2

[Iwannaletgo]

Today's

Plumpton
2.50 Narlen
4.50 Pan the man - Buckland Gold fancied for the lay also - but just watching.

Stratford
2.30 Petit Turk
3.00 Senior Whim

Cheers

[Iwannaletgo]

Plumpton
2.50 Narlen 24 £4.2 :ro_emote_
4.50 Pan the man 10 £8.4 :ro_emote_

Stratford
2.30 Petit Turk 25 £4.2 :ro_emote_
3.00 Senior Whim 16 £6.3 :ro_emote_




Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £ 21.95
Tomorrow's bank: £1072
Tomorrow's stakes: £8.58, £6.43 and £4.29

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi guys,

Today's lays

Sedgefield

3.20 Star Fern

5.20 Notre Cyborg

Lingfield

4.10 Head to Head

[Iwannaletgo]

results

Sedgefield

3.20 Star Fern 36 (big price, but was unable to win) £4.29 :ro_emote_

5.20 Notre Cyborg 26 £4.29 :ro_emote_

Lingfield

4.10 Head to Head 12.5 £8.58 :ro_emote_

Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £16.30
Tomorrow's bank: £1088
Tomorrow's stakes: £8.70 £6.53 and £4.35

[Iwannaletgo]

Today's (two shorties - for me, anyway)

Southwell
2.10 Chart Oak 23

Kempton
2.20 Suntini 12.5

Towcester
4.45 Nannys Gift 9.6

[Iwannaletgo]

Southwell
2.10 Chart Oak 23 £4.35 :ro_emote_

Kempton
2.20 Suntini 12.5 £8.70 :ro_emote_

Towcester
4.45 Nannys Gift 9.6 Non Runner



Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £12.39
Tomorrow's bank: £1100
Tomorrow's stakes: £8.80 £6.60 and £4.40

[Experthorselayer]

Iwannaletgo keep up the good work ;)

[antone]

wow your record looks impressive.. you can really pick lay horses.. i use to pick one but not that good.. maybe i can ask my friend to see your pick also.. he also has good record.. from lay and back horses..

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi guys,

Thanks for comments. Long way to go yet though- one big-priced loss will wipe out most of the profit.

Today's

Towcester

2.30 Nautic

5.00 Acertack

[Iwannaletgo]

Towcester

2.30 Nautic 20 £6.60 :ro_emote_

5.00 Acertack Non runner




Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £6.27
Tomorrow's bank: £1106
Tomorrow's stakes: £8.84 £6.64 and £4.42

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi all,

A fairly dire day's racing for my purposes.

Here they are:

Ascot
2.20 So wise so young

2.55 Monzon (lay place) 22 (Back win) 150 something a little different, but a betting method I use sometimes. Risky for me as I have a knck for finding 2nd place horses - the only finish which will cost me in this race.

Wolverhampton
3.10 Bond diamond 11

[Iwannaletgo]

Ascot
2.20 So wise so young 23 £4.42 :ro_emote_

2.55 Monzon (lay place) 22 £4.42 :ro_emote_
(Back win) 150 £-2

Wolverhampton
3.10 Bond diamond 11 £8.84 :ro_emote_


Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £14.90
Tomorrow's bank: £1121
Tomorrow's stakes: £8.97 £6.73 and £4.48

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi guys,

With the racing looking horrid from my perspective, I'm taking the day off (sunny day outside so not the most difficult decision - one has to live too). I have looked through the cards three times and usually my lays all but jump out at me - if I'm forcing the issue then they're not there.

I will look with interest at Lady wilde in the 3.40 at ascot - no bet though, partly because the race is down to 7 runners.

Also was looking at the 2.15 but the fav is now a non-runner.

See you all tomorrow

[wild dream]

congrats iwannaletgo! :)
we are also looking at laying horse whose odds are less than 40. if you are interested, perhaps can pm or email me so that we can discuss more about it.

rgds
wilddream

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi,

Just thought I'd drop by to let you know I've taken today off too. Had some things to see to.

Back with more lays tomorrow.

Wild dream - good luck to you. Do you post selections?

Iwanna

[antinomian]

Looks good, will you be keeping this as a journal for some time, or are you planning to change this into a subscription? I doubt I got enough capital to follow your picks for now, but guess it looks good when there are no losses yet... Hope that your system continues working! Ill be watching the post!

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi Antinomian,

First, I hope I have spelt your username correctly. Second, as I wrote in my first post, the purpose of this thread is to enhance my discipline. I have been laying horses for some time and have made some pleasant and steady profits. That said, my figures clearly show that had I stuck rigidly to my selections only and not deviated off into the dark world of 'gut feel' etc, I would be far richer.

The only monetary gain I aspire to is that which is generated from placing lay bets on these selections.

Thanks for the enquiry.

Good discipline and good luck.

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi guys,

All a little shorter today. Somewhat tentative as the flat is just starting out and finding its feet (hooves?).

I am due a loser so no surprise if it happens today (my run on this site is 23, but I was 27 consecutive prior to posting here and my average win/loss ratio is 50:1)

Ok, excuses out of the way. Here goes:

Kelso
2.50 Trafalgar Man 15 £8.97

Southwell
3.00 Supa Tramp 20 £6.73

4.00 Green Day Packer 13.5 £8.97

[Iwannaletgo]

Kelso
2.50 Trafalgar Man 15 £8.97 :ro_emote_

Southwell
3.00 Supa Tramp 20 £6.73 :ro_emote_

4.00 Green Day Packer 13.5 £8.97 :ro_emote_




Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £23.44
Tomorrow's bank: £1144
Tomorrow's stakes: £9.15 £6.86 and £4.58

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi Guys,

Tuesday 3rd April will be a no bet day for me. It's the transition period of the year when the somewhat unpredictable sport of horseracing becomes something of a lottery. The jump meet throws up no appeal.

Back soon.

Stay safe.

[mitch101]

Hi, would you mind sharing your selection method with us?

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi Mitch,

Thanks for your enquiry.


I will be putting my selections up here for the foreseeable future. I hope. though, you understand and respect my decision to keep my methodology to myself.

Iwanna

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi all,

Things very slow at the moment as the flat season gets established. Pretty much anything can win any race. April and October are difficult times usually with the transition in race type. Experience has taught it's more profitable to all but sit it out.

Therefore, just one today

Lingfield 2.30 Chattan Clan.

Watch it bolt up :help1:

Bye foir now

[Iwannaletgo]

Lingfield 2.30

chattan clan 14 :unhappy:

Hi guys,

Well, it happened. Feel slightly vindicated as I said that it was pretty much a lottery at the moment. Still unfortunate and april is always a good month to sit things out. I will press on though.

The run on here was 26 without loss. My personal run was 53 without loss which is about average, so hopefully I'll be able to string together a nice run now.



Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: (£118.95)
Tomorrow's bank: £1025.05
Tomorrow's stakes: £9.15 £6.86 and £4.58

[mel9338]

Iwannaletgo!! Wow.. ur tip is just incredible mate... I followed ur tip and bet a tiny mini amount of US$5.. and i win US$90.25 after 5% commision..

Thanks for sharing though... today is a good day.. i double my total investment now after a bad run in two day straight.. with a good research in horse racing and also some good tips...

Thanks again Iwannaletgo!!!!!

[Experthorselayer]

Iwannaletgo!! Wow.. ur tip is just incredible mate... I followed ur tip and bet a tiny mini amount of US$5.. and i win US$90.25 after 5% commision..

Thanks for sharing though... today is a good day.. i double my total investment now after a bad run in two day straight.. with a good research in horse racing and also some good tips...

Thanks again Iwannaletgo!!!!!

There ppl from the space, did you notice that this is a lay thread??????

[mel9338]

There ppl from the space, did you notice that this is a lay thread??????


WHAT! This is the first time I followed his tip.. I guess the topic thread make me think this is a bet for win instead of lay!!! :ghostface

Must be just my lucky day to follow the wrong information yet strike gold!?

Guess I need to read carefully next time.

Cheerz matez

[antinomian]

OMG... the one and only bet that he lost so far and you managed to place a back on it, guess LUCK does play a very big part in this man...

Mel9338 I believe that you should use your earnings and start following his lay bets, you actually have a very good head start compared to us all!

Guess losses, no matter big or small, is part and parcel of a better's life. But you are still in profit and Ill continue to watch your success!!

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi guys,

Ha ha. Some people are truly blessed - to place a back bet on my only 'loser' to date takes a great deal of good fortune. For reassurances, I have over two years' figures of laying showing a healthy profit so, though we have the odd loser, over time the profits are substantial.

I actually placed a win bet on this horse and laid it to place as there were seven runners - this means only a second palce finish results in a loss (a method I have already outlined in this thread ). As I didn't put that info on my original post (before I decided to do the bet that way), I have reflected the figures as a pure loss.

Today's
ludlow
2.30 shropshire lass

5.00 Nominate

Wincanton
4.20 Hi Blue

Clonmel
4.35 Oxpow Lakes

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi,

Just to let you know, Hi Blue is currently available around 45 -48. Far too big a price for me so I'll be sitting this out. Just thought I'd post this in case it wins and people start weighing in with the classic aftertiming jibes.

[wild dream]

one loss today.... :(

[112]

one loss today.... :(

this day is very long ....
UEFA Cupa and NHL and play-off of Austria play-off

[Iwannaletgo]

ludlow
2.30 shropshire lass 16 £6.86 :ghostface

5.00 Nominate 16 £6.86 :ro_emote_

Wincanton
4.20 Hi Blue no bet

Clonmel
4.35 Oxpow Lakes 25 £4.58 :ro_emote_




Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: (£91.46)
Tomorrow's bank: £933.59
Tomorrow's stakes: £9.15 £6.86 and £4.58

ok guys - as I said, April is a horrid month and history shows we do well to break even. Long way to go in the month, but if the account on this thread is on £1200 or so by the end of this month it will have been a success.

Cheers

[cesaranyboard]

:ro_emote_ :ro_emote_ :ro_emote_ :ro_emote_

[Iwannaletgo]

Happy easter.

Muss
3.20 Howards Tipple
4.20 Sowdrey

Towcester
3.10 Gus

[Iwannaletgo]

Muss
3.20 Howards Tipple 45 - too big, no bet :ro_emote_
4.20 Sowdrey 9 £9.15 :ro_emote_

Towcester
3.10 Gus 26 £4.58 :ro_emote_



Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £13.04
Tomorrow's bank: £946.63
Tomorrow's stakes: £9.15 £6.86 and £4.58

[Iwannaletgo]

Fakenham
2.35 Teeton Prince 13.5
Hunt
2.10 Colemanstown 28
5.40 Another bigdiamond
Muss
4.40 Dilwin 19
Sedge
2.15 Bluecoat 8
5.10 Haroum
Warwick
3.15 Mandalay Prince

[Cappachino22]

you seem to be winnnning

[Iwannaletgo]

Fakenham
2.35 Teeton Prince 13.5 £9.15 :ro_emote_
Hunt
2.10 Colemanstown 28 £4.58 :ro_emote_
5.40 Another bigdiamond 18.5 £6.86 :ro_emote_
Muss
4.40 Dilwin 19 £6.86 :ro_emote_
Sedge
2.15 Bluecoat 8 £9.15 :ro_emote_
5.10 Haroum 42 no bet :ro_emote_
Warwick
3.15 Mandalay Prince 19 £6.86 :ro_emote_


Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £41.28
Tomorrow's bank: £987.92
Tomorrow's stakes: £9.15 £6.86 and £4.58

[112]

Congratulations !!!
You are very lucky :)

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi 112,

Thanks for your comment. Although luck is a somewhat precarious thing so hopefully, if it's a matter of luck, I am at least creating my own. :online2lo

Today's
Chepstow
3.35 Captain Aubrey
Fontwell
4.50 Cherington

[Iwannaletgo]

Chepstow
3.35 Captain Aubrey Non Runner
Fontwell
4.50 Cherington 20 £6.86 :ro_emote_


Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £6.86
Tomorrow's bank: £994.78
Tomorrow's stakes: £9.15 £6.86 and £4.58

[Iwannaletgo]

Nothing for today.

Back tomorrow

[Iwannaletgo]

Newcastle

4.30 Monet's lady

[Iwannaletgo]

Hi guys,

Been away for a while - the racing's been settling itself and the fields have generally been too small for me.

Monet's lady didn't win :ro_emote_ , but I left it alone due to price restrictions.

Today

Hereford
7.00 Kempley green
Newbury
3.50 Brisk breeze

[wild dream]

there are many factors to a successful lay.... form reading is just one of them. :)

[Iwannaletgo]

there are many factors to a successful lay.... form reading is just one of them. :)

Absolutely. I find form studying very dull and so tend to all-but avoid it.

[Iwannaletgo]

Hereford
7.00 Kempley green 18 £6.86 :ro_emote_
Newbury
3.50 Brisk breeze 20 £6.86 :ro_emote_



Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £12.92
Tomorrow's bank: £1007.70
Tomorrow's stakes: £9.15 £6.86 and £4.58

[Iwannaletgo]

Stratford
2.30 Flirty Jill

3.00 Our man in Bangkok

[Iwannaletgo]

Stratford
2.30 Flirty Jill 25 £4.58 :ro_emote_

3.00 Our man in Bangkok non - runner


Results: (5% commission deducted from all profits)
Original bank: £1000
Profit/(loss) today: £4.35
Tomorrow's bank: £1012.05
Tomorrow's stakes: £9.15 £6.86 and £4.58