A Legend about roulette software profit

[MonsterBet]

Hey everybody!

I would like to share my own opinion on the topic of roulette softwares making money.
First of all Im not a gambler, I have descent incomes but all in all I am a very curious person!
So when I heard this whole buzz about different softwares "making" thousands of $$$ of profit I thought I'd give em a shot! As I walked though tons of inet pages and reviews I found out 2 "best" softwares available to the public for a fee (roulette-killer and roulette-sniper) and I got em both (though didnt pay a cent for em).
I have tested them over a few months now and in the end it all comes to loosing! Yes, you make some money from time to time... I even had almost a week a row of profits but the following week was a disaster. I tried different famous casinos, different casino software platforms and still ended up in losses. Killer is more agressive I would say: You win faster but u also loose faster! Sniper is long and boring: most of the times you win but at one certain point you loose a lot. So to sum up loosing vs winning: loosing wins by a tiny degree but still wins!

So in the end my conclusions would be:
- Roulette gambling in general is not to make money but to buy some emotions (excitement or frastration), cause in a long term you WILL loose! If you do it from time to time just for fun, sure... but dont get stuck on this as it may ruin your balance sheet comletely one day!
- Roulette-sniper and Roulette-killer are just automated software to make it more convenient for users to calculate PROBABILITY based on the results. The calculations are being done according to the theories of progression and martingale betting strategies, which have proven over history not to be true due to some boundaries. These theories will ONLY be true if a player would have unlimited amount of balance and no limit bets! He would also need to spend eternity to prove other method and we all know that not many of us break a line of 100 years...

Why did I make this post? Cause even though I got into online gambling because of my curiousity, I have killed my time and I feel frastrated about this, though ofc I learned my lesson and Im supposed to be 1 step smarter now.

However, I would also like to hear some of you if any who actually got further than I did and discovered smth new, maybe even smth that works. Please share your experience but please be honest! Dont make a foul out of yourself by claiming smth that isnt true. Share your knowledge, lets discuss together on how to bit this roulette system down and make Einstein jelous!

[sulzinc]

Thanks for the info Monsterbet,
Ive been looking into roulette systems but all seem to be loser systems in the long run, like you said winnings are slow and when you loose you loose big, which is not worth it.

Im thinking of letting this roulette business pass by as it can be damagining financially and may not be worth it. Also spent sh*t loads on crappy roulette systems,,

Any info from others who are making good money from this will be appreciated.

Thanks

[MonsterBet]

Dont worry m8, you r not the only one! I guess there are thousands of others who got ripped by this scam!

However, I gave it a deeper thought and IF the profits are to be made, the attention should be paid to MD5 (random number generator) that most of the reliable casinos use. However, Im not a programmer and know little about it but thats the only possible point of concern. Otherwise, winning roulette systems have been thought over by basically all great mathematicians and wicky scientists. Which means in a real world there is no way to be it but maybe in virtual, a crack can be found for the random generators. This would however be cheating and get casinos really really mad at you but who cares?! They rip ppl of everyday, they can afford a small leak every once in a while

[topbombing]

To beat roulette consistently you need to read up on chaos theory and pattern recognition.

[MonsterBet]

A very interesting idea "Topbombing"!
I did a little bit of study on those two subjects by reading some articles on wikipedia.

1. As far as I understood pettern recognition can recognize methodology which e.g. casino's roulette number generator produces.
2. Chaos theory seems to be more complicated to understand and involves advanced investigations on the topic. However, as far as I understood from the article and to put it into a simple form, it is something similar to random data generation, however there are differences between these two and chaos theory has some logic (though HIGHLY complicated) in it.

Straight away here arise questions:
1. Is it true online roulette uses chaos theory not a random number generator (like md5)?
2. Has it been tasted with pattern recognition?
3. Is there a software out there that recognizes patterns?
4. Is it just theories or actually someones has taken this issue into further investigation?

I am impatiently looking forward to continue this conversation with topbombing or anyone else who is familiar with the topic. Write directly to me if you do not desire to share your knowledge or opinion to mass public...

[forexaccountmanager]

I tested roulette system out on a practice account. I made about 100 bucks, from $1000, then lost it all because I lost like 25 times straight or something.
Thanks

[jmstevens090]

these softwares are programmed according to some standard probability distributions. so need not be accurate all the time.

[topbombing]

Only play with live dealers. Not against Random Number Generators. Yes, theer are patterns in what are supposedly random numbers.

[Hailey]

I'm new to this forum so firstly wanted to say hi!
I have bought two different roulette "systems" in the last 2-3 months. Both were cheap enough to buy. The first system was just the obvious one you all probably know - start by betting on red, doubling your money all the time until you win, and then switch to black and do the same. It was new to me though so gave it a go in about 3 different online casinos. Needless to say I lost all my money!
On one particular well known and respected online site I did manage to go from 100 euro to 1000 euro increasing my bank by about 100 a day. Once I hit the 1000 mark though it was obviously flagged and suddenly I lost it all :(
You would think I would have learnt my lesson but no! I then bought another system which was a program you downloaded to the computer and it would tell you where the place your chips. Suprise suprise I lost all my money again with this!
If you're going to play roulette your best bet is to simply take a guess! Online systems are a total scam...be warned!

[MonsterBet]

Beware!
Here is the list of roulette softwares available on the internet, mostly for sale! However, NONE of these truely work! Yes, u might be lucky and win a few hundred but DONT be fouled! U will LOOSE! Dont trust me? Investigate on your own, go different forums, read USER (not seller) reviews and they will tell u same.

Roulette Sniper
Fast Roulette
Roulette Advantage
Reverse Roulette
Roulette Profits
Roulette Rebels
Roulette Whiz
Sure Roulette
Ultimate Roulette
Roulette Shark
R-Bet
Roulette Killer

HOWEVER, topbombing seems to have a good point here! And I would like to hear more. I have looked into chaos theory deeper and came to some sort of understanding. But do u really think that live dealer throw numbers according to the specific chaotic pattern? Did u try it out urself? Did it work for u? did u use some sorta pattern recognition software?

[mrchisel]

random number generaters always take your money

[betand33]

I agree

[lukins82]

Yes, I quite agree.

[topbombing2008]

Lost my registration details so had to reregister.

It's not the RNG that take your money...it's the "bent' casino software programs.

Live dealers are NOT the same as RandomNumberGenerators. Yes I have a very successful method I use whenever I go to a casino which is rare as I find playing roulette VERY boring. You need to learn pattern recognition. There are always patterns even in supposed randomness. You also need your method to NOT involve playing every spin and only play short bursts triggered by the patterns. It CAN be DONE...but sorry, I am not going to tell anyone my method other than I back 4 or 5 numbers straightup for up to 10 or 8 spins with a progression and stop at a winning spin or at the end of the progression if no win.

I tested my method manually against almost 4 years of spins from a table at a real landbased casino...the Spielbank in Hamburg posted their spins live and over a 45 month period would have made almost 1million chips. That would have been playing every day for the whole time the table was open...about 14 hours a day.


Spielbank Hamburg Table 1
Sep2002 +27692
Oct2002 +11985
Nov2002 +24011
Dec2002 +10460
Jan2003 +15765
Feb2003 +12625
Mar2003 +33856
Apr2003 +39057
May2003 +44350
Jun2003 +32437
Jul2003 +6791
Aug2003 +21699
Sep2003 +36451
Oct2003 +22883
Nov2003 +18118
Dec2003 +9876
Jan2004 +21273
Feb2004 +35968
Mar2004 +14905
Apr2004 +5098
May2004 +31327
Jun2004 +29288
Jul2004 +39602
Aug2004 +23017
Sep2004 +33610
Oct2004 +14004
Nov2004 +21635
Dec2004 +10024
Jan2005 +24383
Feb2005 +34215
Mar2005 +20281
Apr2005 +20256
May2005 +8781
Jun2005 +24165
Jul2005 +17184
Aug2005 +2983
Sep2005 +35237
Oct2005 +1105
Nov2005 +12207
Dec2005 +17006
Jan2006 +12721
Feb2006 +12184
Mar2006 +27443
Apr2006 +2374
May2006 +18364
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+938796
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Average per month (45)……………………………..20862

For those of you who laugh at this and don't believe it's true...and I get it all the time...I don't give a monkeys'. I'm the one that's laughing at you.

[MonsterBet]

And why would u make such a long post with numbers and stuff without sharing vital information that would prove if u method actually exists?

To me it seems u r just teezing ppl with no actualy back up of ur words...

We heard a lot of fake stories how to bit a roulette but so far the only strategy that proved to be working was proposed by Einstein: " the only method u can ever win roulette is by stealing chips from the table"!

So unless u got some real facts to back up ur so called "proven pattern" ur post means nothing just like any other scam software there on the market that claims to bit the system...

[topbombing2008]

To encourage people that are trying to beat the devils' game and show that it can be done. Also there is more than one way to do it. I know several people banned from playing roulette because of their consistent wins including one who took over $100,000 off casinos in Puerto Rico in a month even though they tried everything to mess up his game by changing the ball size often and the dealer and the wheel direction.

I've posted real facts. If you knew how I selected the targets, the results I've posted could be checked because the Spielbank spins are archived.

I don't care if you believe it or not. I'm not selling anything. But for anyone trying to find ways to do it, it can be done.

[MonsterBet]

Hi again topbombing!

Im not calling u a lier or anything its just I've seen so much fraud out there claiming to bit the roulette and I did a deep study on the subject about a year ago. Tried fabinocci number sequence, pattern recongnition, chaos theory, however there were certain points where I got stuck and it seemed to fail. Maybe because I tested them on online casinoes software which u say is crooked and i didnt have a chance to test it on a real live dealers.

I would love to find out a system that works, im prolly going back to my study and start digging deeper with pattern recognitions, using real dealers this time via Spielbank archives, hope that will produce some results.
However, if there is any sort of assistance that u could provide or atleast a guidance in a right direction for some clues I would appreciate that significantly!
Feel free to pm me anytime if u dont want to expose what u think shouldnt be to a public eye. However, I would like to prove with or without ur help that ur post above is true!

[Dubalianza]

Topbombing is talking sense. I've created a system myself which sounds similar to his and I would rate it as the most profitable roulette system by a long way.....and it doesn't involve even bets, they're the first step to financial suicide.

It won't work on casino software. Actually no system will work over the long run on casino software as it's programmed for the punter to get screwed sooner or later. That comes from the horses mouth.
As for programs like roulette sniper, they're a joke and I think they put the punter into a false sense of security. I used the trial version of RS out of curiosity and bust my bank in only the second lot of progressive bets. Good job it wasn't real cash!

Most systems out there are scams whether it's roulette, horse racing, football etc although you can pick up a gem which you can buy for next to nothing, probably because the author hasn't a clue of it's real value. I buy systems out of curiosity and for inspiration in creating my own systems and that's what anyone whose into gambling should be doing, creating their own.
Alot of hard work and research is needed but can prove dividends......and no I'm not giving it away or selling it as I know from experience that some slug would be flogging it on Ebay or someplace in a matter of hours......probably for a fiver!