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MadMaxy
01-13-2009, 10:25 AM
He's selling every few months a new scam system of casino gambling, and he's doing it for very many years.

Once I have ordered something from him (some 4-5 years ago), and this was enough for me for a life lesson of M. Silverthorne.

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Here's he's newest "fantastic, wealth-giving" system :lolol: :

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Email I got today:


"This strategy is pure genius. Fisher's betting
formula solves the problem of long losing streaks -
permanently. No matter what I did I couldn't get the
system to lose.

"I am now playing online making $5 base bets and
easily averaging $523 an hour. What can I say? The
proof is in the winnings!"

Richard V. - Honolulu, Hawaii
_________________________________________

Hi (....my name....),

Richard V. lives in Honolulu and strictly plays online. He
uses the Fisher Roulette Strategy and plays European
roulette and mini-baccarat online.

Richard recently told me that the Fisher Strategy is the best
gambling system he has ever used.

I am starting to believe that the Fisher Roulette Strategy
may be the world's safest gambling strategy!

And, it is so solid that we have yet to experience a single
loss using this strategy!

What's more, it produces the same consistent results
against any gambling game offering even-money bets -
including craps, roulette, baccarat and blackjack.

The Fisher Roulette Strategy can provide the perfect basis
for a whole new direction in your life. .

Try the Fisher Roulette Strategy. You can try it on a No
Risk Trial Basis and prove to yourself that it works without
risking a cent. I can't think of any other option that
offers so much for so little time and money risked. Once you
experience the sheer thrill of playing without losses, I
know that you will be sold on this strategy just like I am.

And, (....my name.....), you don't have to risk much to get
going. You can start out with just $40, and in a very short
time, be at the $2,000 an hour plus winning level!

Even if you don't reach this level, you can easily become a
$10 bettor, bringing in almost $900 an hour. In either case,
I am sure you can see the implications of this stunning new
income producer.

Here's what you'll get when you download this amazing
course.

* You'll get the complete theory behind this strategy and
learn why it is so powerful. I use lots of examples so that
you can quickly gain a complete mastery of the strategy.

* You will have all of the tools available to beat every
version of roulette. What's more, this isn't one of those
systems that require that you stand around waiting for the
right time to start playing. You can sit down and start
playing immediately, making bets on every spin of the wheel.

* You can play and win at roulette no matter where you
decide to play. Since this strategy is not based on any
characteristics of a roulette wheel, it works equally well
on physical as well as computer generated versions of
roulette.

* You won't need much money to succeed. You can start with
as little as $40 and quickly build your own bankroll using
your winnings. A complete step-by-step plan is included
with the course showing you exactly how to do this quickly
and easily!

(....my name), when you decide to try out the Fisher
Roulette Strategy course, you are really getting a complete
business ready to set up and start profiting from.

You'll get -

* The Fisher Roulette Strategy Manual. This manual has
everything you need to know to make a fortune off of this
strategy. It is set up for beginners so that even if you
don't know the difference between roulette and bowling, you
will quickly be able to master the system.

* A Quick Start Guide. If you are an experienced roulette
player you can skip all of the basics and get right into the
system. This guide will help you learn the "guts" of the
system very quickly. There is no reason that you can't be
profiting from this strategy 45 minutes after you download
it!

* The Step-by-Step Profit Multiplier. This is a complete
plan detailing the exact steps you will take to turn $40
into $8,000. Reaching this level of bankroll is critical
because once you do, you can make $25 base bets and steadily
win $2,000 an hour!

* The Fisher Roulette Tracker. By using this tracker you
can use this strategy very easily and really make your
roulette play almost automatic.

But there's even more, Ladislau. If you order in the
next 10 hours, you'll get these indispensable bonuses -

* Bonus #1 - The Fisher Roulette Strategy Best Online
Casinos (a $60 value).

* Bonus #2 - The Absolute Best Online Roulette Casino (a
$40 Value).

* Bonus #3 - A Beginner's Guide to Online Casino Bonuses (a
$40 Value)

* Bonus #4 - The Best Online Casino Sign-Up Bonuses (a $40
Value)

* Bonus #5 - Why Online Casinos Can Be Beaten! (a $20
Value)

* Bonus #6 - Our Guide to the Best Roulette Casinos in the
United States (a $40 Value).

Plus, you'll get our picks of the best cruise lines for
roulette games and our pick of the best Caribbean roulette
casinos

This program comes with my complete "No Questions Asked"
One Year Guarant^e.

(....my name....), you can use the strategy any way you like for
a FULL YEAR.

* You can play roulette from home and instantly set up as
much as $5,000 a day in reliable profits.

* You can play roulette in any land-based casino and simply
blow the game away.

* You can vacation in Las Vegas and pay for everything out
of your roulette winnings.

Ladislau, you can use the strategy any way you like for
a FULL YEAR with 100% PROTECTION WITH OUR
IRON-CLAD GUARANT^E!

There is no downside for you to try out this strategy.

....... link...............

Yours for making $523 an hour making $5 bets!

Regards,

Martin J Silverthorne

P.S. (...my name....), the Fisher Roulette Strategy has been
proven to be an extraordinary performer.

In fact, we have yet to experience a single losing run with
it.

If you act in the next 24 hours, you'll get the complete
strategy course, our quick start guide, the step-by-step
plan to become a $2,000 an hour winner and the copyrighted
Fisher Roulette Tracker all for the SPECIAL REDUCED PRICE
of just $79.97.

P.P.S. , this is the easiest turn-key
strategy I have ever seen. By all indications it may not
only be the ultimate "no loss roulette strategy" but the
long sought Universal Gambling Strategy.

You can try this out at zero risk, even if you are merely
curious. You are 100% protected by my Iron-Clad Guarantee.

This strategy is perfected, proven and ready to use. Now it
is up to you. All you have to do is try it!

....link......


Silverthorne Publications Inc.

848 N Rainbow Blvd, Suite 601
Las Vegas, Nevada
89107
US

MadMaxy
01-13-2009, 10:43 AM
Here's the load of cr...ap what they have on the site:


It has been the goal of roulette players for over 200 years to find a foolproof way to beat the game.

Amazingly, the secret was hidden in the back of a book on roulette published 84 years ago!

The Fisher Roulette Strategy contains a previously undiscovered secret method that turns the tables on the roulette game.

Conclusive tests prove that you never need to lose at roulette again when you use this method.

I am going to reveal a rock solid way you can use to turn $40 into an $8,000 bankroll and then consistently make $2,240 an hour playing roulette.

What’s more, in the next few pages I am going to give you proof that you, too, can use the Fisher Roulette Strategy to “set yourself up for life!”



From: Martin J Silverthorne
12:41 PM

Dear client,

I couldn’t believe my eyes when I reviewed our first series of real world tests of an 88 year-old roulette system.

This is a strategy that has never before been released to the public. As far as I can tell, it was never used after 1920 the date of the remarkable document that fell into my hands.

In this day of high speed computer analyses it is easy to assume that roulette players playing the game almost 90 years ago used methods that are easily eclipsed by modern computer generated algorithms.

Yet in this case, if you made this assumption you would be dead wrong.

People often forget that some of mankind’s greatest accomplishments were the results of one man, working alone, without the benefit of computers, calculators, research grants, highly paid assistants or any of the other aspects of modern research that are considered essential by today’s standards.

Albert Einstein developed his theory of relativity working by himself.

Thomas Edison was essentially a one-person shop when he developed the incandescent light bulb, as well as the phonograph, motion pictures and a whole slew of devices we take for granted.

Galileo opposed the entire educated world and the almighty church when he proposed the then heretical idea that the earth revolves around the sun.

Even the modern personal computer was born of just a few individuals like Steven Jobs, Steve Wozniak, Bill Gates, Paul Allen and John V. Blackenbaker, working mostly outside of the establishment.

In fact, most of the creations that are of the greatest benefit to all of us, from the flush toilet, manufactured in the 1880s by Thomas Crapper's plumbing company, to the printing press, created by the German goldsmith Johannes Gutenberg, were the brain children of loners who had great moments of inspiration and then turned these visions into practical concepts.

So, it shouldn’t be a surprise that another individual, Samuel Fisher, developed an extraordinary new way of winning at roulette.

We have just finished testing this strategy and I can say, without any equivocation, that this roulette strategy is one of the most amazing I have ever seen.


Our Tests of this Strategy Prove That When You Use the Fisher Roulette Strategy to Play Roulette, You Will Win Without Fail.

I know that this sounds almost impossible to believe, but this is truly a system that you can use to play roulette as long as you like without fear of losing.

We have used this system against every version of roulette offered today and found -

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It beats the American version of the game which, using the double-zero wheel, is the hardest version to beat.

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It beats the European version of roulette in all forms offered.

*

It beats the single-zero version of roulette found in Atlantic City.

*

It beats online roulette hands down.

There is no question that when you use this strategy you will be able to –

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Log on to any of hundreds of online roulette games and within fifteen minutes bring in a profit of $112!

*

Win more consistently than you can with any other gambling strategy. In fact, I will show you how you can use this strategy and never again lose a session of roulette!

*

Set up your own roulette business using the Fisher Roulette Strategy to power your profits.

*

Set up profit goals and then realistically meet them every week, without fail!



Let Me Tell You A Little More About the Fisher Roulette Strategy –

The Fisher Roulette Strategy is designed for even-money bets at roulette. By even-money bets, I mean red or black, odd or even and high or low. With the exception of the zeros (single zero on European wheels, single and double-zeros on American wheels), the even-money bets cover half the numbers. The probability of their occurrence is almost 50%, about like flipping a coin. In the long run you can expect to win and lose roughly the same amounts of all even-money bets.

There have been numerous systems designed for even-money bets, such as the double up Martingale system, d’Alembert, Ascot, the Labouchere or cancellation system, Oscar’s Grind and so on. All of these systems work for a while and then wipe out all of your profits, plus a good chunk of your bankroll when they fail.

If there were no table limits, even the classic Martingale system would beat roulette. You start by placing a one-unit bet on the table on an even-money bet. If you lose, you double your bet. Let’s say you like to bet on the color Black. Assume you continue to bet on Black and Red comes up eight times in a row. Your ninth bet would be for $511 (calculated as 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + 16 +32 +64 +128 +256 = 511). You would be placing $511 on the table to win a $1 profit. If this wager lost also, you would be out $511.

Most casinos would not let you go even this far. A casino accepting $1 minimum roulette bets would probably have a maximum bet of $250, limiting a Martingale to no more than seven levels. With a $250 limit, you would not be able to make a larger bet than $128 without running into the table limit.

The attraction of the Martingale system is that you will win most of your bets. Unfortunately, setting maximum bets ultimately defeats this system. If a casino did not place a maximum on the size of the bets they accepted, then using the Martingale system would be a sure way to beat the casinos.

Samuel Fisher was very aware of betting limits when he designed his roulette strategy. Part of the beauty of it is that it can survive losing runs of eight, nine or even ten consecutive losses and still win, while staying well under the house betting limits.





Fisher’s betting strategy does not use a fixed progression for betting, like a Martingale. In fact this system has had no losing runs!



Let me repeat this so that you realize the full impact of this statement –


When You Use The Fisher Roulette Strategy, You Will Never Have a Losing Session!

We have tested and retested this strategy and have over 10,000 roulette spins under our belts using this strategy. I want to emphasize that these are actual roulette decisions played in a variety of different casinos and not just some computer simulation.

In using this strategy, we have had no losing runs! With no losing runs, we have never had a losing session!

No matter what happens during a roulette game, this system always recovers and ends each run with a win. It sounds hard to believe and at first I had trouble believing it myself.

But it is absolutely true!

Why does the Fisher Strategy work so well? Every roulette wager consists of two parts:

1.

Determining where to place the bet and

2.

Setting the size of the bet.

Most of the old time systems only deal with the size of each bet and pretty much assume that where you bet doesn’t matter.

But they are wrong. Where you place each bet is just as critical as the amount you bet.


The Fisher Strategy Automatically Determines Where You Place Each Bet

Samuel Fisher knew that bet placement is very important if you intend to win consistently at roulette.

Many players like to bet on a favorite color and then stick with that color. While such a system can be fairly effective at times, it can easily be devastated against a long streak of wins on the opposite color.

The Fisher Strategy advocates a simple way of following the flow of roulette decisions that is very effective.

When you use it, you will be able to hold your own against all kinds of roulette patterns and win whether the game is choppy or streaky.


The Real Genius of the Fisher Strategy Lies in Its Amazing Betting Strategy.

Unlike a Martingale series where it will ultimately lose either because of running into the house betting limit or when the player runs out of money, Fisher does not used a fixed betting progression.

Samuel Fisher discovered a unique formula for betting that can survive anything you will ever encounter playing roulette. What ultimately defeats the Martingale strategy as well as most of the old time roulette strategies, is a consecutive string of losses. No Martingale can survive 7, 8 or 9 consecutive losing bets. With a Martingale betting system, you will usually reach the house betting limit by the 7th or 8th losing bet.

In contrast to a Martingale system, the Fisher Betting Strategy can survive any number of consecutive losing bets. You could lose 10, 11, 12 or even 15 consecutive bets and still win using Fisher’s incredibly clever betting strategy.

Here’s why –

Let’s say you lose 9 times in a row, which would wipe out nearly any other system. With Fisher, you will have a small loss at this point. Now, all you have to do is have 4 wins to overcome the effect of these losses.

Please notice I am not saying 4 consecutive wins. That would be a steep requirement. What I am saying is that 4 winning bets, whenever they occur, will more than offset 9 losing ones.

What if you lose 12 bets? You will need only 5 wins at any time to overcome this loss.

Even if a coup takes 20 bets to complete, you will complete the coup with a net win

With the Fisher Betting Strategy, the Completion of Each Coup Results in a Win!

A winning coup can be completed in as little as one bet or may take as long as 25 bets. However, one thing you can be certain of –

Each time you win a coup you will win an amount equal to your profit goal.

Let’s say you are playing with a $3 profit goal for each coup. Then every time the system completes a run, you will win an additional $3.

How much you win when you win a coup depends on your profit goal and your betting level. You can play for $1, $3, $10, $25 or even $50 coup wins. The one thing that is constant is that when you use the Fisher Betting Strategy, you will win every run.



Here’s An Example of What You Can Expect When You Are Playing for $30 Coup Wins

Below is a table showing winnings coups in a series of 500 roulette decisions where the profit goal for each winning coup is $30.

The first column shows the bet number, so that “2” represents the second bet.

The second column keeps track of the number of coups won. So, “3” represents the third coup.

The last column tracks our winnings. You can follow the total winnings in this series of bets by reading down this column.


Fisher Roulette System
Played for
500 Roulette Decisions


No


Coup Completed



Winnings

2


1


+30

3


2


+60

4


3


+90

5


4


+120

12


6


+180

16


7


+210

19


8


+240

23


9


+270

28


10


+300

29


11


+330

37


12


+360

38


13


+390

42


14


+420

59


15


+450

60


16


+480

65


17


+510

73


18


+540

77


19


+570

81


20


+600

85


21


+630

86


22


+660

87


23


+690

92


24


+720

96


25


+750

103


26


+780

104


27


+810

109


28


+840

110


29


+870

111


30


+900

124


31


+930

129


32


+960

132


33


+990

133


34


+1020

145


35


+1050

156


36


+1080

157


37


+1110

158


38


+1140

159


39


+1170

160


40


+1200

164


41


+1230

167


42


+1260

172


43


+1290

177


44


+1320

178


45


+1350

179


46


+1380

184


47


+1410

185


48


+1440

189


49


+1470

194


50


+1500

199


51


+1530

212


52


+1560

217


53


+1590

218


54


+1620

231


55


+1650

240


56


+1680

243


57


+1710

244


58


+1740

248


59


+1770

249


60


+1800

256


61


+1830

257


62


+1860

258


63


+1890

261


64


+1920

265


65


+1950

266


66


+1980

270


67


+2010

274


68


+2040

275


69


+2070

278


70


+2100

279


71


+2130

280


72


+2160

281


73


+2190

282


74


+2220

283


75


+2250

288


76


+2280

293


77


+2310

294


78


+2340

303


79


+2370

308


80


+2400

317


81


+2430

318


82


+2460

319


83


+2490

324


84


+2520

325


85


+2550

329


86


+2580

334


87


+2610

335


88


+2640

343


89


+2670

347


90


+2700

352


91


+2730

361


92


+2760

365


93


+2790

369


94


+2820

373


95


+2850

374


96


+2880

377


97


+2910

378


98


+2940

381


99


+2970

382


100


+3000

383


101


+3030

384


102


+3060

385


103


+3090

386


104


+3120

390


105


+3150

394


106


+3180

395


107


+3210

399


108


+3240

403


109


+3270

416


110


+3300

417


111


+3330

422


112


+3360

425


113


+3390

426


114


+3420

430


115


+3450

435


116


+3480

436


117


+3510

452


118


+3540

453


119


+3570

454


120


+3600

462


121


+3630

471


122


+3660

475


123


+3690

478


124


+3720

479


125


+3750

483


126


+3780

496


127


+3810

500


128


+3840













This table shows coup wins where you set $30 as your Profit Target for each winning coup.

Each time you win a coup, you win another $30.

In this series of 500 plays, we won 128 coups for a total of $3,840. This is fairly typical of what you can expect when you use the Fisher Roulette Strategy.



How Fast You Win Depends Strictly on the Speed of the Game

In a brick and mortar casino, averaging 60 spins an hour, it would take you 8 1/3 hours to complete 500 spins. Your hourly win rate would be $461 an hour.

In an online casino, with its much faster rate of play, you could easily play at the rate of 300 spins per hour. Here, your win rate would be an astounding $2,305 an hour!

Notice that you will always win a coup using this system. Let’s take a look at an extreme example encountered in these 500 bets.

On bets 42 to 59 it took 18 wagers to win a coup. Yet, we still won the coup.

This is a concrete example demonstrating exactly what you will experience when you harness the awesome power of the full Fisher Roulette Strategy.

Just so we are clear about this, let me say it again –

We have not yet had a single losing coup using this strategy. However you manage your play, you will not have losing sessions with this strategy.


The Fisher Roulette Strategy Turns “Hit and Run Tactics” on Their Heads

As you know, I have developed or sponsored a number of very successful gambling strategies over the years.

My associates and I regularly use these strategies to win at craps, blackjack, roulette, baccarat, slot machines and video poker. We are also very successful at trading stocks.

The one thing every strategy has is common is that we don’t play the game continuously.

Simply stated, we play for a while, grab a win and then take a break.

Another way of describing this style of play is to call it a “Hit and Run” approach to gambling.

I have always felt that being able to play for short intervals, grab a win and then depart a winner was a critical aspect of beating the house at gambling.

Using a hit and run approach has been as much a part of the successful gambling strategies I have used as is money management and using planned betting procedures.

That is, until I discovered Samuel Fisher’s remarkable strategy.

When you play roulette using the Fisher Roulette Strategy, there is no longer a need to use the hit and run approach.

With the Fisher Betting Strategy always resulting in a winning coup, there is no reason to play for a target win and then pull off. You can play for as long as you like and take a break after any winning coup.

If you want to play for five minutes and pull in a win, this is the strategy for you.

If you want a strategy that you can use for an hour at a time and then take a break, the Fisher Roulette Strategy will suit your needs perfectly.

If you want an easy way to beat the online roulette games, this is the strategy you need.



Let Me Tell You How I Discovered the Fisher Roulette Strategy

I like to buy gambling books – especially old ones. Over the years I have developed the habit of buying old gambling books from a couple of local bookstores when I am in Las Vegas. While I have found some really interesting systems, I had never discovered a truly winning one until I stumbled across the Fisher Roulette Strategy.

Several years ago, I bought some gambling books while I was in Las Vegas and I had never gotten around to reading them. They ended up in a box in my garage, still unread.

Recently my wife, Diane, decided that our garage needed a thorough cleaning, especially an area known as Martin’s Book Stash.

I am hopelessly addicted to buying books and the book shelves in my home library as well as the many other bookcases scattered throughout the house have long since been filled. Periodically to make room for my latest acquisitions, I will box up books that I don’t think I will need to refer to and move them out to my corner of the garage. Over the years, my book stash has expanded until it fills a whole garage bay.

Now I will give myself some credit. Each box is neatly labeled with an ID tag. I keep a notebook that details every box so that, at least in theory, I could find any book, given enough time and a willingness to move boxes around.

My books were the project that Diane decided needed attention this past summer. She hired a local gardener and turned him into her personal garage/house/yard organizer and was doing quite well in moving, fixing and changing to fit her needs.

Quite frankly, I was delighted that she had found a way to organize, reorganize and rearrange that didn’t involve me. However, we came to an impasse with my book stash.

One day Diane marched into my office and stood there watching me with her foot bouncing as she looked around my office. I tried to ignore her and gazed even more intently at my computer screen. But, as her foot continued to move to its own beat I realized that she had something she needed to say, do or plan that would involve me.

I told her that I just needed to finish an email to one of my associates and that it would take a few minutes.

She disappeared and then reappeared in my office with a cup of coffee. She took a seat and the foot resumed its motion.

I zipped off my email, came around my desk, gave her a soldierly kiss and asked how her day was going.

“It’s going great. Jones has helped me clean out the garage. It looks great except for your corner.”

“You mean my books. Well they do take up some room. But they are very neatly boxed and only occupy the last bay.”

I thought I had resolved her problem and was prepared to change the subject, but she was not satisfied with this approach.

“Martin, they need to go somewhere else. I need that space for another car.”

I had no idea what she was talking about. We already have four cars. Why would we need another one. Of course Diane explained.

“I found a great deal on a Smart car ForTwo. You know my friend, Mary. Well . . . “

As Diane explained why we had such a great deal on this car, my mind wandered. I could tell that this was one of those situations that was not going to have a happy ending for me.

I finally interrupted. “Maybe I can take a look at my books. It’s probably time to get rid of some of them anyway.”

The next day I went down and starting going through boxes. In the fourth box I found a book I never had looked at with the likely title of The Sealed Book of Roulette and Trente-et-Quarante by Billiken.

As I picked up the book, a receipt from the Gamblers Book Store in Las Vegas fell out. That explained where it had come from Apparently this was a book I had bought in Las Vegas some years ago that had gotten boxed up before I had even looked at it.

I read the description on the title page:

The Sealed Book of Roulette and Trente-et-Quarante.

Being a Guide to the Tables at Monte Carlo, together with simple descriptions of several unique systems.

The copyright date was 1924 and the book was made and printed in Great Britain by Fleetway Press, Ltd. in London.

The book itself was intriguing, and while I was examining it several yellowed folded sheets fell out of the back of the book.

I picked them up and started to read.

The sheets contained tightly written script in a very neat handwriting. The first page contained a description of a roulette strategy, followed by a formula and several pages of the results of play.

I first scanned the pages of play. Each line on the page summarized the results of a day of play at Monte Carlo.

As I read through the record of play, the most remarkable thing was that there were no losing days.

Here is a sample of results of daily play written in small neat rows and columns:

date


montant gagné

15 juillet 1919


₣1205

17 juillet 1919


₣2104

18 juillet 1919


₣907

22 juillet 1919


₣1505

25 juillet 1919


₣1593

28 juillet 1919


₣2474



Each line showed the date played and the amount won in French francs.

This diary of daily wins continued throughout 1919 and into the first part of 1920. Total winnings shown in this journal were ₣241,245, a tidy sum back then.

This was very intriguing to say the least. The first page was indentifed as the “Journal de Samuel Fisher de le Jeux de Roulette.”

The journal was written in French. With the combination of Diane’s remarkable memory of the French she took in high school and the Google translator, I was able to determine Samuel Fisher’s roulette system.

To say that it is a remarkable system would be an understatement. It is a system that never loses. What’s more, it is a system that can be played nonstop without losing.

This is what sets it apart from other systems. While the best time to take a break from play is after completing a coup, there is no other reason to stop play other than fatigue.

Once I understood the strategy, it seemed almost too good to be true. Here was an unknown roulette system developer who had accomplished what all the great nineteenth and early twentieth century roulette system players had failed to do.

He had created the roulette strategy that never loses.



Because of Its Extraordinary Performance, You Don’t Have to Bet Big to Win a Lot!

Have you got $75 that you can spare?

If you do, you have enough to get started with 50˘ roulette bets. Don’t worry if the minimum bet in your favorite land-based casino is $5 or $10. You will find plenty of online casinos accepting 50˘ roulette bets.

In fact, if you play in one of the casinos I recommend that pay 100% sign-up bonuses, you can get started for less than $40.

As a 50˘ player, you can make about $40 an hour playing online. Now this isn’t too bad. Play five hours a day and you will make $200.

But, you are not likely to be satisfied at this level when you can make so much more just by betting a little higher.

With online play, here’s what you can expect to make per hour as you increase the size of your wagers:




Base
Bets



Hourly Net Winnings

50˘


$45

$1


$90

$2


$180

$3


$269

$5


$448

$10


$896

$15


$1344

$25


$2240



Now, you might be wondering how you can get up to the $896, $1344 and especially the $2240 an hour winning level.

I have got you covered!


The Fisher Roulette Strategy Course Contains a Complete Plan Showing You How to Grow Your Bankroll Out of Your Winnings!

I remember reading a book about blackjack card counting several years ago. The author talked about how successful card counters could make $50,000 to $75,000 a year. Okay so far, where do I sign up?

Then came the zinger. To be successful as a card counter, a bankroll of at least $50,000 to $100,000 was recommended.

The author didn’t have any suggestions about how to put together the hundred grand needed to be a successful card counter. As a practical matter, unless you already had a bundle of money you could risk, there was no reasonable way to ever become a well paid card counter.

I am not about to leave you hanging with the Fisher Roulette Strategy.

First, you won’t need anywhere like $100,000 to reach the big time with this strategy. To reach the $2,000 an hour plus winning category, you will need $8,000.

Don’t go into shock over this amount. Like I just stated, I have got you covered. What you are going to do is simply follow the steps I will reveal in the manual and literally grow your own bankroll.

To make this as easy as possible, I have developed a step-by-step plan that you can follow. It’s like walking up a set of steps, where you reach the top one step at a time.

You can start out making 50˘ or $1 bets with a bankroll of $40. This is your first step.

As your winnings grow, your bankroll will grow also. Now, each time you increase the size of your bankroll a defined amount, you will be able to increase the size of your bets and give yourself a huge raise.

Ready?

Take the next step up and move from 50˘ wagers to making $1 bets

Now, you can sit back and enjoy your profits . . .

Almost before you realize it, you will have won enough to move up to making $2 bets.

After that comes the $3 betting level. At this point it will have taken you less than eight hours play to move from 50˘ to $3 bets. You could stop here if you like. After all, making $269 an hour is pretty darned good.

But, let’s assume that you want to move right on up to the big time. Your next step will be to the $5 betting level, where you can bring in the tidy sum of $448 an hour in net winnings!

You can stay at this level for a while if you like. Making $448 an hour is good in anyone’s book.

But, you have decided to go to the top, so you continue up the betting ladder.

Your next level is $10 betting. You are now making $896 an hour. This may feel just right to you. If you play 3 ˝ hours a day, you will bring in $3,000 a day in profits. You could “work” just three days a week and make $468,000 a year!

But, you have decided not to stop. Why not increase your betting to the next level? You stick with the plan and move to the $15 betting level. You are now making $1,344 an hour. But you decide to move on to the final level in this plan.

Your bankroll hits the $8,000 level. You now have enough to make $25 bets. At this level you will be bringing in $2,240 an hour!

You can do your own figuring here (go ahead, its fun!). If you put in ten hours a week as a $25 base bettor, you will make over $22,000 a week.

Now, you might be thinking there must be some hidden catch to this. Maybe it will take months of hard work to reach this level, or your bankroll will go up and down because of fluctuations in your winnings.

It’s much easier than that. Starting with $1 bets, you will reach the $25 betting level in about 20 hours of play.

To do this, you will have to “reinvest” your profits in building your bankroll. However, because the Fisher Roulette Strategy just continues to win, without losses, you won’t face the risk of losing back some of your bankroll.

If you face some really tough games, it might take you 22 hours to go from $1 to $25 betting. Or, you may have an even easier time and reach your goal in just 18 hours.

However, the critical thing to know here is –

If you just follow the step-by-step plan that comes with the Fisher Roulette Strategy course, you can safely and quickly move up from making $1 bets to $25 bets in about 20 hours!

If you play in higher limit land-based roulette games, you will find many $100 minimum roulette tables. In a fast land-based game you can easily make over $2,500 an hour making $100 bets!




Is This the
Universal Gambling Strategy
We’ve All Been Waiting For?

Axel D. used the Fisher Roulette Strategy with great success playing mini-baccarat.

This raises the question –

Is the Fisher Roulette Strategy the ultimate strategy for any game offering even-money wagers?

All of the testing so far indicates that the answer is a resounding “Yes!”

Here’s why –

With its unique betting formula as well as bet selection techniques, this strategy is far more than the roulette strategy that never loses.

There is no reason that you shouldn’t get the same results against baccarat, mini-baccarat, craps and even blackjack.

I am just starting our testing of these games. However, if you want to use this strategy to beat any of the other games I am absolutely certain of the results you will get –

You will be able to play baccarat, mini-baccarat, craps or even blackjack without any fear of ever again losing!







This May Be Your Best Chance to Quit Working So Hard and Start Enjoying Life More!

I tried early retirement a few years ago and it wasn’t for me. However, even though I am not retired, I long ago gave up the routine of working for someone else.

Chances are you don’t enjoy what many call “the daily rat race” more than anyone else.

Even if you have the perfect job and look forward to every day of work, wouldn’t it be nice to know that you didn’t have to do this?

To me, there is no greater sense of freedom than knowing that I do what I do because I want to do it, not because I have traded my freedom for a set of obligations that force me to plod off to work every day.

I have some great news for you –

Now is the perfect time to get out of the rut!

The Fisher Roulette Strategy can provide the perfect basis for a whole new direction in your life.

Let’s say that you need $5,000 a month just to live. I know that sounds like a lot, but you would be surprised how many middle class people need $5,000, $7,000 or even $9,000 every month just to get by.

Let’s assume that your survival number is $5,000 a month. If you work every day, you can just make it.

But there is no wiggle room.

And, working just to pay all of the bills is not your idea of the good life.


Here’s How You Change Your Life Forever.

Try the Fisher Roulette Strategy. You can try it on a No Risk Trial Basis and prove to yourself that it works without risking a cent. I can’t think of any other option that offers so much for so little time and money risked.

Once you experience the sheer thrill of playing without losses I know that you will be sold on this strategy just like I am.

If you have the money, you can immediately start playing at the $2,000 an hour plus level.

But, as we just saw, you don’t have to risk much to get going. You can start out with just $40, and in a very short time, be at the $2,000 an hour plus winning level!

Even if you don’t reach this level, you can easily become a $10 bettor, bringing in almost $900 an hour.

In either case, I am sure you can see the implications of this stunning new income producer.

If your monthly expense level is $5,000, you can cover it in less than three hours play!

If you are just getting by with $10,000 a month in expenses (don’t laugh, there are plenty of people in this boat), put in about five hours a month of roulette play and you will cover it.


Here’s What You Can Expect When You Use the Fisher Roulette Strategy –

The first thing you can do is relax when you play. There is no guesswork involved to win with this strategy. Old Samuel Fisher put together a very sound system and all we have to do is follow in his footsteps.

To make this strategy super easy to use, you will get the Fisher Roulette Tracker with the Fisher Roulette Strategy course. To win and keep winning all you have to do is follow the Tracker. You will know exactly where to bet and the exact amount to bet on every roulette decision.

Here’s what you’ll get when you download this amazing course.

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You’ll get the complete theory behind this strategy and learn why it is so powerful. I use lots of examples so that you can quickly gain a complete mastery of the strategy.

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You will have all of the tools available to beat every version of roulette. What’s more, this isn’t one of those systems that require that you stand around waiting for the right time to start playing. You can sit down and start playing immediately, making bets on every spin of the wheel.

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You can play and win at roulette no matter where you decide to play. Since this strategy is not based on any characteristics of a roulette wheel, it works equally well on physical as well as computer generated versions of roulette.

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You won’t need much money to succeed. You can start with as little as $40 and quickly build your own bankroll using your winnings.
A complete step-by-step plan is included with the course showing you exactly how to do this quickly and easily!

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Using this strategy is a snap. You will get the Fisher Roulette Tracker that will automatically keep track of your bets.




One Player’s Experience Using this Strategy

I got acquainted with Axel D, who lives in Madison, Wisconsin, a couple of years ago. He is a real roulette aficionado having collected over 50 different roulette systems. Axel is now retired and I asked him to try out the Fisher Roulette Strategy and let me know what he thought. Here is what Axel experienced:

“First I want to say ‘thanks’ for letting me work with you on this strategy. I really enjoyed reading the original notes written by Samuel Fisher. I could sense a kinship with him since we both love the game of roulette.

“I wasn’t sure exactly what you wanted me to do when you asked me to take a look at this system and let you know what I thought. I first reviewed all of your examples and your explanation of how the strategy works.

“I have to say that I am really amazed at the underlying formula. What it accomplishes is nothing less than turning roulette from a game heavily in favor of the house to a very player favorable game.

“It does this because of its extremely clever betting scheme which minimizes the impact of losing streaks, yet allows for very easy wins with just a few winning bets.

“I tested this strategy extensively and the longest number of bets I had between winning coups was 19. I know you mentioned surviving 25 bets between winning coups, but I never experienced any series that long.

“After playing this strategy for over 8,000 roulette decisions, I am as confident as you are that it will overcome even the longest periods of adversity and still win.

“I never lost a single run in all of my play. That is the most remarkable aspect of this strategy.

“The second aspect, which is equally remarkable, is that you can play this strategy continuously. This is new to me. Every other winning roulette strategy I have ever used works for short-term wins, but will break down and have losses if it is played too long.

“With this Fisher Strategy, you can play as long as you like. The only stipulation about when to quit is that your profits will be highest if you quit right after a winning coup. That’s it.

“I found that I could use this strategy without any fear of a loss at all. I tried it in local casinos, in several online casinos and on one trip to Atlantic City. The results were the same everywhere – no losses, just more winnings.

“Once I hit the $25 betting level my average winnings were pretty close to yours.

“Making $25 bets, I averaged making $2347 an hour online and $543 an hour in land-based casinos.

“In my opinion the Fisher Roulette Strategy is the best roulette strategy for even-money bets ever created. As an aside, I played mini-baccarat with it for a day in Atlantic City and had the same experience as when I played roulette – all wins and no losses.”





How Much Will You Pay to Gain a $2,000 an Hour System That Has Never Lost?

I don’t know how much Samuel Fisher lost before he finally discovered the secret formula that underlies his strategy.

If he was like many roulette players, he probably lost a small fortune before he developed this powerful winner.

How much is a proven $2,000 an hour system worth to you?

If I were talking about a day trading system with this kind of proven performance, it would be priced very high.

You would probably have to pay at least $25,000 to have access to it and even then you wouldn’t get all of the information about how it really worked.

To buy a roulette strategy with these kinds of results would set you back between $5,000 and $10,000.

If it was priced like a downloadable stock trading system it would probably cost at least $500 a month to access it. And, you would have to attend a $2,500 seminar in order to understand how to use it!

In short, any proven strategy that really performs like the Fisher Roulette Strategy is going to be priced fairly high.

And, if you think about it, it would be well worth it.

Remember, we are talking about a proven strategy that you can use to win $2,000 a hour without risk of losing.

If I charged you $2,000 for it, it would only take you an hour of play to cover the cost of the strategy.

However, I am not going to charge you much for the “$2,000 a Hour Strategy.”

We have decided to offer the complete Fisher Roulette Strategy for $399.97. This is thousands less than what we could charge. But, as a client of mine, I can offer you an even better deal –





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When you decide to try out the Fisher Roulette Strategy course, you are really getting a complete business ready to set up and start profiting from.

You’ll get -

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The Step-by-Step Profit Multiplier. This is a complete plan detailing the exact steps you will take to turn $40 into $8,000. Reaching this level of bankroll is critical because once you do you can make $25 base bets and steadily win $2,000 an hour!

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The Fisher Roulette Tracker. Each course comes with the Fisher Roulette Tracker. By using this tracker you can use this strategy very easily and really make your roulette play almost automatic.



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Yours for taking winning to a whole new level,



Martin J Silverthorne



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In fact, we have yet to experience a single losing run with it. If you act by Saturday, January 17, 2009, you’ll get the complete strategy course, our quick start guide, the step-by-step plan to become a $2,000 an hour winner and the copyrighted Fisher Roulette Tracker all for the SPECIAL REDUCED PRICE of just $79.97.



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MadMaxy
01-13-2009, 11:08 AM
I've just made these 2 posts for you guys to tell you not to fall pray to this scammer.

At first for sure this system is just another joke, like all of them which he sells.

And secondly, even if the system would be for real, how can Silverthorne recommend to anyone to play any system at online casinos?
Every normal person knows already that ALL online casinos have rigged softwares that will finish your bankroll sooner or later, and any system works only in real, land casinos!

If you also have been scammed with some BS system by this Silverthorne, please post in this thread.

ALPHANUMERIC
01-14-2009, 01:20 AM
Oh yeah. I'm embarrassed to admit but yes I did purchase a system off this joker back in '07 called Target Roulette. Which only had a 2% chance of failing! Riiiiiiight! What he doesn't mention is that 2% chance of failure completely wipes out anything you might have made. Once you get the system and read the system he says only 1 in 20 of his games ends in failure...well it takes about 19 wins to make the $1800 he proposes and one loss to completely take it away. You just spin your wheels. :nono:

MadMaxy
01-15-2009, 12:19 PM
Oh yeah. I'm embarrassed to admit but yes I did purchase a system off this joker back in '07 called Target Roulette. Which only had a 2% chance of failing! Riiiiiiight! What he doesn't mention is that 2% chance of failure completely wipes out anything you might have made. Once you get the system and read the system he says only 1 in 20 of his games ends in failure...well it takes about 19 wins to make the $1800 he proposes and one loss to completely take it away. You just spin your wheels. :nono:


You don't need to be embarassed, I guess that tons of people fell prey to this scammer, because otherwise he would not come out every once in a while with another scam.

But how can be so shameless, that he keeps folks who bough at least 1 thing from him on his mailing list, and keeps bombarding them with the adverts of his new scams all the time.

I got on his list 4 years ago, after that mistake to buy some BS system from him.
Since then I opted out at least 3 times from his mailing list, but he does not care at all, he continues to send me his scums. :mad3:

ebenu2
01-15-2009, 01:29 PM
Hi MadMaxy! How are you?

Silverthorne's systems seems to be all legitimate most of them (if not all) are all well written. Roulette always been a difficult game to beat and online roulette's, I believe are rigged so it's almost impossible to beat.

Btw, have you had time to generate tips from the NBA spreadsheet? It's been performing well.

18 Nov. '08 - 15 Jan. '09

Main System:
Wins - 50
Loss - 29
Strike Rate - 63.3%
Profit/Loss - +18.65 units

EJS System:
Wins - 24
Loss - 23
Strike Rate - 51.1%
Profit/Loss - -0.10 units

Over All
Wins - 74
Loss - 52
Strike Rate - 58.7%
Profit/Loss - +18.55units

Regards,
Eben

MadMaxy
01-16-2009, 10:23 AM
Hi MadMaxy! How are you?

Btw, have you had time to generate tips from the NBA spreadsheet? It's been performing well.

18 Nov. '08 - 15 Jan. '09

Main System:
Wins - 50
Loss - 29
Strike Rate - 63.3%
Profit/Loss - +18.65 units

EJS System:
Wins - 24
Loss - 23
Strike Rate - 51.1%
Profit/Loss - -0.10 units

Over All
Wins - 74
Loss - 52
Strike Rate - 58.7%
Profit/Loss - +18.55units

Regards,
Eben

Hi Eben, I'm glad to see you made a little forum, and your experiments with these systems are going well. Congrats!
I've just visited the forum, and looked at the system just now.

So I had no time to generate tips from the spreadsheet, but I do not remember that you have sent it to me.
Anyways, please send it again!

Right now, since December 10 I've stopped any activity at profitsportspicks.com.
There lately I had an excellent capper, but nobody bothered to buy even a single pick from him in over a month, no matter the super result. Also I had another new one, with very good results.

I've lost too much time in posting daily the stats and free picks for 4-5 months in some 12 forums, and too much time with shitty or not serious cappers.
I'm still keeping the site functional, but if I restart the activity I will have only 1 capper on the site, or 1 system, maybe just myself, LOL.

It looks that in this business if you do not put in 3-4000 $ in advertising, you do not have any chance to make sales. Forum members very very seldom buy picks, and even then they need to see a couple of months of good results from a capper.
But those who are scammers, and have deep pockets for (fake) advertising make huge money in sportspicks sales.

So I just got tired for now with all this stuff, but for sure I'll be back with http://profitsportspicks.com, because I love too much betting and capping.

MadMaxy
01-16-2009, 10:32 AM
Silverthorne's systems seems to be all legitimate most of them (if not all) are all well written. Roulette always been a difficult game to beat and online roulette's, I believe are rigged so it's almost impossible to beat.


Yeah, maybe they seem legitimate, because they are well written, but people buy gambling systems to make money with them, not to have just a good read.

In my eyes no matter how legit seem these systems, but from the moment that this Silverthorne character dares to recommend to his buyers to use all of these systems in online casinos too, he's just a dirty scumbag.

Hey, IMO online casinos should pay an extra salary to these kind of system sellers! I don't need to say why!

ALPHANUMERIC
01-26-2009, 08:56 PM
Thanks for the words above on not being embarrassed Maxxy. Yeah ya know the methods are written out concisely and easy to follow but I think where he becomes a fraud is (well besides the methods not working I mean) when he keeps putting down how it's 100% money back if it doesn't work and then nobody can reach him again. I can't figure out how somebody like this can stay in business without going away for fraud by now. :unhappy:

MetaCynic
04-18-2009, 08:08 PM
Last year I purchased Silverthorne's "Baccarat Attack Strategy." The only way to find out whether a trading or gambling system really works is to paper trade. My paper trading was done using three different software games. One was purchased, the other two were free downloads.

I have compiled a complete record of every decision played from which I've extracted all kinds of statistics and insights. After almost 12,000 decisions the system appears to be profitable. In Baccarat the house has about a 1.25% advantage if bets are placed randomly between the two hands. Following the system, I have not only overcome this house advantage but gained a 3% advantage over the house. This is analogous to Return On Investment in the financial world. So, for every dollar bet, I made a 3 cent profit instead of suffering the expected 1.25 cent loss.

Betting randomly, I should have lost 145 more decisions that I had won. So far I have won 244 decisions more than I had lost. That's a 389 win swing. The system claims one loss for every 16 games played. I have experienced one loss for every 10 games played. The system's claimed winnings per decision are about 2.6 times greater than my experience. Yet, I would think that my 3% advantage is still very respectable considering that casinos have prospered immensely on smaller advantages in Baccarat, Blackjack and single zero Roulette.

One thing that I observed in my experiment is that games of near even odds tend to be streaky. I could flip a coin many times and expect a largely 50/50 outcome. Betting randomly will produce a break-even situation. However what happens in reality is that there will be streaks between heads and tails, which if one can identify and ride, will produce a better than 50/50 outcome. This is what this Baccarat strategy is about.

Two questions remain. Is my almost 12,000 decisions played a statistically significant sampling and is all gambling software rigged to produce favorable results when play betting in order to encourage gambling with real money which will then be promptly lost? The only way to test the latter is to randomly play bet 12,000 decisions. A similar significant win rate, will prove that the software is rigged.

goduil
05-05-2009, 04:58 PM
it long long ... i don't know you say

agisthos
05-06-2009, 04:03 PM
Years ago in the 90's, before the days of easily downloadable ebooks, Silverthorne Publications used to sell their systems as printed manuals. I have about 6 of the printed books, and about 10 of the downloadable ebooks.

Let me tell you straight, non of their systems work. But whoever is behind Silverthorne Publications has to be one of the best copywriters going around. Their sales letters are brilliantly persuasive.

Since they started selling ebooks they just change the name of their old blackjack, bacc or roulette systems, change the rules slightly and just remarket it again and again.

I must have seen the same system multiple times under different names.