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notjomoma 09-02-2005 01:03 AM

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What a load of BS! They provide NO info and YOU have to give them everything right down to distingushing body marks. Can anyone say SCAM?

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What a joke. BBBBBBAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

cs65 09-02-2005 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by notjomoma
You can add Spain for yesterday and Denmark to the list today. http://myndigheder.danmark.dk/txt/m...nh&objno=100290

I just looked on the website mentioned, and nowhere is reality millions mentioned? A search for Reality Millions and a search for ITB Group gives no results.
I am from Denmark, I should be able to read what it says.
What exactly do you find on this site that compromises RM???

notjomoma 09-02-2005 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cs65
I just looked on the website mentioned, and nowhere is reality millions mentioned? A search for Reality Millions and a search for ITB Group gives no results.
I am from Denmark, I should be able to read what it says.
What exactly do you find on this site that compromises RM???

That post was made on 8/18 so I suggest that you might try the archives for the 15th - 18th.

atimco 09-05-2005 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by notjomoma
What a load of BS! They provide NO info and YOU have to give them everything right down to distingushing body marks. Can anyone say SCAM?


What a joke. BBBBBBAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

You can say scam if you want, but you will be a fool like all the other people who were against RM.

atimco

notjomoma 09-13-2005 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by atimco
You can say scam if you want, but you will be a fool like all the other people who were against RM.

atimco

Then isn't this a tad strange that the Channel Islands financial regulators are asking for people who have lost money in RM/DO to come forward.

The person to contact is Maureen Le Poidevin mlepoidevin@gfsc.gg

notjomoma 09-14-2005 07:39 AM

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From WWSN[quote]Well just to keep Spittleittle/Phin updated on what is happening in her's and Gordon's fantasy world here is a few tidbits for you to chew on.

Getting anonymous hosting at Wild West domains are a lot cheaper than Gordon provides and they have excellent tech support as well. In no way can any sane person believe that Cattyshaq is responsible for Katz loss of market share which shows a net loss of 17 this week and 61 in the last 6 weeks.

If Cattyshaq contributed in anyway to his loss it was because of legitimate businesses not wanting to be associated with companies that were considered to be illegal in most countries of the world. I. E. the Channel islands which recently issued this warning for Reality Millions. "Channel Islands financial regulators are asking for people who have lost money in RM/DO to come forward. The person to contact is Maureen Le Poidevin mlepoidevin@gfsc.gg"

Is this Gordon Hayes next dream of another new currency after P$? What are the chances that either one of these have a snowball's chance in hell of surviving?

Check it out here: http://www.ai-gold.com/

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There is no future in MLM precious metals like gold and silver. Why? They are commodity items with no sales margins on them. Hundreds have come and gone. Here is another putting out “specialty coins” with a “future” collectors value.

Suckers jump in! Also note they are using a head hunting pyramid scheme CLICK HER FOR LEARNING ABOUT HEAD HUNTER PYRAMID SCHEMES http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/RC_Scam_Pyramid.html to illegally sucker people in. Here is your instruction site so you can see a head hunter pyramid scheme in action>> http://www.silverfreedom.com/compensation.html

http://www.silverfreedom.com/index.html
You will notice that this site is history.

Is This a Pyramid or a Legitimate MLM?
by Jeffrey A. Babener

4. Does the compensation plan avoid paying commissions or bonuses for the mere act of sponsoring or recruiting? (If it pays headhunting fees, it is illegal.)

http://www.sheffieldnet.com/babener_artice04.html

The FTC - The Bottom Line About Multilevel Marketing Plans

Avoid any plan that includes commissions for recruiting additional distributors. It may be an illegal pyramid.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/pyrdalrt.htm

It seems that Gordon should have studied the Money Transfer Regulation a bit more!

Has Gordon Hayes now or has he ever qualified under these laws?

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6-1202. License required

A. A person shall not sell or issue payment instruments, engage in the business of receiving money for transmission or transmitting money, engage in the business of exchanging payment instruments or money into any form of money or payment instrument or engage in the business of receiving money for obligors for the purpose of paying that obligor's bills, invoices or accounts without first obtaining a license as provided in this chapter or becoming an authorized delegate of a licensee with respect to those activities. A licensee is under the jurisdiction of the department. A person who is not licensed under this chapter or who is not an authorized delegate of a licensee with respect to those activities is presumed to be engaged in a business that is regulated by this chapter and that requires a license if he advertises, solicits or holds himself out as being in the business of selling or issuing payment instruments, of receiving money for transmission or transmitting money or of converting one form of money to another form of money.

B. No person other than a corporation organized and in good standing under the laws of the state of its incorporation or, if a corporation organized under the laws of a country other than the United States and in good standing under the laws of the country of its incorporation and authorized to do business in this state, may apply for or be issued a license as provided in this chapter.
And what about this?

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A person who is not licensed under this chapter or who is not an authorized delegate of a licensee with respect to those activities is presumed to be engaged in a business that is regulated by this chapter and that requires a license if he advertises, solicits or holds himself out as being in the business of selling or issuing payment instruments, of receiving money for transmission or transmitting money or of converting one form of money to another form of money.

I rest my case on all issues!

spittleittle 09-17-2005 11:05 PM

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Let me introduce you all to the biggest idiot in any forum you may ever visit. He goes by notjomoma here, and Abe in WWSN. He likes to copy and paste posts from cattyshaq because he can't write a single word on his own. He needs a working mind to do that. Occasionally he tries to put together an original post, but then it turns out like the one you see there. Totally worthless and wasteful and complete nonsense. Then he copies and pastes it in whatever place he can. He likes to think he's making a point, but he really has no idea what the hell he's talking about. He doesn't even know that this thread isn't for the Phoenix Dollar. What an ass. His holy assness is only trumped by his retarded yet egomaniacal lover, Beano, aka Tex, aka Jackass in WWSN. Go ahead BAbe, copy and paste this post in WWSN too. I think Beanpie would like to read it, he's got a crush on me too.

notjomoma 09-18-2005 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spittleittle
Let me introduce you all to the biggest idiot in any forum you may ever visit. He goes by notjomoma here, and Abe in WWSN. He likes to copy and paste posts from cattyshaq because he can't write a single word on his own. He needs a working mind to do that. Occasionally he tries to put together an original post, but then it turns out like the one you see there. Totally worthless and wasteful and complete nonsense. Then he copies and pastes it in whatever place he can. He likes to think he's making a point, but he really has no idea what the hell he's talking about. He doesn't even know that this thread isn't for the Phoenix Dollar. What an ass. His holy assness is only trumped by his retarded yet egomaniacal lover, Beano, aka Tex, aka Jackass in WWSN. Go ahead BAbe, copy and paste this post in WWSN too. I think Beanpie would like to read it, he's got a crush on me too.

Well thanks for that compliment Bil, Gomer or what ever your name is.

Hey Bil, what's wrong? Too many bad investments, somebody lick the red off your candy? Don't get your panties in a wod just because geniuses like you don't have a leg to stand on.

Listen genius any one capable of finding their way to Google or clicking on the state AG link to Arizona could find that info on licensing for Money Transmittion or other sites like this one in a couple of minutes. http://www.law.upenn.edu/bll/ulc/ndpfsa/ndpa1098.htm

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Funds and Wire Transfer

Twenty-eight states regulate some aspect of funds transfer. The regulation of wire or funds transfer agencies typically parallels the regulation of check sellers. They are often grouped together under a single statute. Incorporated telegraph agencies are generally exempt. Some states, such as California, regulate the transmission of money to foreign countries under separate statutes. California and Massachusetts have separate statutes which govern the transmission of funds overseas.

Currency exchange is regulated in only seven states, and is often included in a statute regulating check cashing. Exemptions are given to businesses accepting foreign currency in payment for goods or services. Texas has a separate Currency Exchange Act which requires currency exchange businesses to obtain licenses. Under the Texas Act, it is a felony to operate a money exchange business without a license. The penalties include forfeiture of the business and all of its assets for a violation of the act.

Arizona: The State Banking Department is charged with regulating transmitters of money in Arizona. Money transmitters include: check cashers, foreign money exchangers, check sellers (the selling or issuing of payment instruments), and transmitting agents (by wire, facsimile, electronic transfer, courier, or otherwise). An annual license is required for money transmitters and will only be granted to a corporation in good standing. Government institutions and traditional financial institutions such as banks and savings and loans are not subject to this law. The Department investigates the financial responsibility, financial and business experience, character, and general fitness of the applicant to make its decision to grant or deny a license. There are provisions for license fees, investments, and surety bonds that must be met. Each licensee is required to submit a financial report to the Superintendent of Banking each quarter and must file a suspicious activity report for any suspected money laundering or other racketeering violation. Additionally, any report required by federal law must also be submitted to the superintendent. Misrepresentations and false statements made under this Act are considered felonies. The Banking Department has conducted several examinations of money transmitters but has declined to examine authorized agents.
Old post I made here at TG in PIPS forum.

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I've had this saved as a draft from Securities Industry News, since 12/9, just waiting for this opporotunity to shed some light on this very subject.

FinCEN Issues Guidance on AML Program Requirements

December 8, 2004 - The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) today issued Interpretative Guidance clarifying that a Money Services Business must establish, as a part of its anti-money laundering program, appropriate risk-based policies, procedures and controls sufficient to address the risks of money laundering and the financing of terrorism posed by its relationship with foreign agents or foreign counterparties. The Guidance will be published in the Federal Register and become part of a new appendix to FinCEN's regulations that will contain FinCEN's interpretive rules.

Since April 2002, Money Services Businesses have been required to establish anti-money laundering programs to guard against money laundering and terrorist financing. Today's Guidance specifically requires that, to the extent a Money Services Business uses relationships with foreign agents and counterparties to facilitate the movement of funds into or out of the United States, the Money Services Business' anti-money laundering program must reasonably address the risks of money laundering and the financing of terrorism posed those relationships with foreign agents or foreign counterparties. The Guidance applies only to Money Services Businesses required to register with FinCEN, as these are the entities most likely to use foreign agents or foreign counterparties in their operations.

"This Interpretive Guidance should clarify Money Services Businesses anti-money laundering program requirements when it comes to having proper risk-based policies and procedures in place when dealing with foreign agents or counterparties," said William J. Fox, Director of FinCEN. "It is critical that MSBs understand the importance of meeting this requirement in order to protect the international gateways to the U.S. financial system."

The Guidance requires that a Money Services Business' anti-money laundering program be capable of detecting the abuse of products and services offered through foreign agents and counterparties by establishing procedures for: (1) conducting due diligence on foreign agents and counterparties; (2) risk-based monitoring of foreign agents and counterparties; and (3) taking corrective action or terminating relationships, as appropriate.

Money Services Businesses will be expected to achieve full compliance with the Guidance within six (6) months from the date of this announcement.
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Affected Institutions

The following digital currency systems are operated from US soil and appear to fall under the new regulations: e-gold, e-Bullion, Norfed/Liberty Dollar, INTGold, PayPal and EMOCorp. Crowne-Gold is operated from Nevis but has some or all of its gold stored in the USA, so it is unclear whether that company falls under the new US regulations. Any digital currency exchange provider operated in the United States or by a US person would also appear to fall under the new regulations.

Therefore any user of these systems should bear in mind that US law enforcement agencies including the FBI, IRS, CIA, ATF, DEA and others may have access to your account data at any time without your knowledge or consent. Given the recent increase of federal prosecutions using "structuring" as a crime in and of itself, with no associated criminal acts, this places most honest account-holders at risk of federal felony charges if a series of transactions adding up to $10,000 in value is completed without filing the appropriate currency transaction report form. (It appears Rush Limbaugh is being prosecuted for this.)

A lawsuit claiming that a "gold backed" Internet currency scheme bilked investors out of more than $250 million can proceed against a bank implicated in it, a federal judge has ruled. See OSGold.
Don't get all ripped because you couldn't find them and fell for another scam? It wasn't my fault! BTW this is a c/p of an earlier posted by me.

awty 09-18-2005 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by spittleittle
Let me introduce you all to the biggest idiot in any forum you may ever visit. He goes by notjomoma here, and Abe in WWSN. He likes to copy and paste posts from cattyshaq because he can't write a single word on his own. He needs a working mind to do that. Occasionally he tries to put together an original post, but then it turns out like the one you see there. Totally worthless and wasteful and complete nonsense. Then he copies and pastes it in whatever place he can. He likes to think he's making a point, but he really has no idea what the hell he's talking about. He doesn't even know that this thread isn't for the Phoenix Dollar. What an ass. His holy assness is only trumped by his retarded yet egomaniacal lover, Beano, aka Tex, aka Jackass in WWSN. Go ahead BAbe, copy and paste this post in WWSN too. I think Beanpie would like to read it, he's got a crush on me too.

Methinks you know little of what you speak. There's a difference between blind cut and paste, and research. Something that appears to be wasted, in at least some cases, to the possible detriment of those cases.

(Yep, Osgold's been interesting...)
Jeff

spittleittle 09-18-2005 05:40 PM

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To satisfy this thread and justify this complete hijacking: Yes, the RM site is down. NEXT...

It's machomama that doesn't know what he's talking about. He thinks he knows what the P$ is but he really doesn't have a clue. He's blinded by his hatred of all things online. Maybe if Beanlip would give him some good luvin he'd get his mind off of these things and be less stressed out.

It's certainly not an MLM. For that you would need multi levels and marketing, correct? There will be no multi levels. Receiving an extremely modest amount of silver if you directly refer 25 people certainly does not constitute an MLM. And you don't need a money transmitters license to sell a product. If I buy silver through P$, I'm buying a product. If I trade with silver I'm using my own silver to trade for a product or service. To be a money transmitter you have to, well, transmit money of course. That point seems to be lost on poor BAbe. There will be no features of the P$ that requires that license. If/when any features that do require it become availabe, the license will have been obtained beforehand. Or maybe I'm wrong, and anyone who sells a product or service needs a money transmitters license. Doesn't WWSN sell subscriptions? Hmmm, I wonder if they're licensed...

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Arizona: The State Banking Department is charged with regulating transmitters of money in Arizona. Money transmitters include: check cashers, foreign money exchangers, check sellers (the selling or issuing of payment instruments), and transmitting agents (by wire, facsimile, electronic transfer, courier, or otherwise).
Nope, no current part of the P$ falls under those categories. And the info in that quote must be correct and relevant right? After all, I copied and pasted it...

And what is that quote you included... "Affected Institutions"? Affected by what, you ninny? Certainly not money transmitters licenses. What regulations are they referring to? It appears they're talking about regulations resulting from the possibility of tax evasion and/or money laundering there. If you'd like to ask e-gold about the status of their money transmitters license, they'd be happy to answer your question. I asked. They said they don't have one, and don't need one.

Like I said before... worthless, wasteful, and complete nonsense. Try again, machomama.

Here is where you start:
Step 1) Copy and paste this post into WWSN so you and Beanrag can fluff your egos because you're oh-so-smarter than the rest of the world.
Step 2) Head over to cattyshaq and find a post that makes it looks like you might possibly have a valid point.
Step 3) Copy and paste said post into talkgold, and don't forget WWSN. You want them to see how hard you're working. Don't forget to add a sentence or two so it appears you made some kind of contribution to the "thought process" behind it.

Now, when you copy this post, be sure to include this ENTIRE post. You want Beansock to know how well you follow directions. He thinks that's so cute!! Have fun!

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