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mrGSH 08-06-2011 03:43 PM

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uinvestcomua,
I chose to what I respond in PMs or forum. Anyway, you do not have to be sorry for bothering, and what explanations do you want??? My initial question was for Calebjor. Would you like to answer on his behalf?
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Originally Posted by uinvestcomua (Post 4453060)
mrGSH,

since you don't respond in PM, please respond here

"Do I understand this correctly that your word 'scam' refers to our company? If not - sorry for bothering.
If yes I would like to get explanations."


turboonostrilvision 08-06-2011 07:50 PM

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below you can read uinvest newsletter :
"
Friday newsletter – a few events that worth uinvestors’ attention


Breaking news - World Financial Crisis is coming?

USA default, world financial indices crash – these scary news have been heard everywhere lately. Small investors have little chances to correctly predict global financial cataclysms and actually they usually suffer most when such things happen. But UInvest is on your side – we a re sure that today is the right time to invest in real assets converting paper money in something that has real value. This is why UInvest gives you such opportunities – investing in manufactures, food companies, resorts. With UInvest your funds are really protected from inflation, default risks and other economics disasters.



UInvest Ranking System introduced

This morning uinvestors could notice ‘stars’ near the balance indication of their uinvest account interface. This is a test start of new UInvest innovation – advanced ranking system and is designed to make UInvest community even more effective. “Active, loyal and honest uinvestors will get more convenient tools, features and terms of their use”, - Dave Darrell head of support team said on Wednesday’s management chat at uinvest website. Next week uinvestors can expect detailed information on URS.



Dave in Wednesday’s management chat

UInvest develops fast and we want to keep all uinvestors updated as of the news and events happening inside our company. This is why, as you know, UInvest management comes to live chat every Wednesday to answer your questions and address various issues. Last Wednesday Dave Darrell spent almost two hours during the first management chat and seems like uinvestors liked it. Next chat will be on Aug 10th, come and talk to us!




Private Equity Funds begin to invest in Ukraine

During 2010 the popularity enjoyed by Ukraine in private equity investing and venture capital funds doubled.


According to news agency PREQVECA, if in 2009 the country began to work only two such fund, in 2010 – now six funds totaling $ 270 million are now functioning.


The total amount of 161 transactions to invest in shares of 161 companies in the CIS region totaled $ 5.2 billion, of which more than $ 1 billion were 27 transactions in shares 26 Ukrainian companies. Overall, 29% of CIS investments were made in the company start-ups, 22% of business at the expansion stage and 32% – in the company at a later stage of development. Also last year, funds have sold shares of 36 companies totaling nearly $ 3 billion in 2010, the year they sold the paper, only 10 companies totaling $ 1.3 billion in half the cases of 39 transactions in 2010 the shares were sold to investors.





Next letter will be issued on Friday 12th of August. Stay tuned!




Regards,

UInvest Support Team"

good luck with uinvest

how long you think this program will last for ?
I think 3.5 y.

Joseph 08-06-2011 08:11 PM

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Quote:

This is a test start of new UInvest innovation – advanced ranking system and is designed to make UInvest community even more effective.
:lolol:

Uinvest powered by FREE CMS what a joke
(Joomla! is a free and open source content management system - CMS)
Do you trust company that is used say FREE WordPress blog?

Office address, license number - Fake
All this so called Media news etc total BS
anyone may register there for free and submit an article, nothing more but just BS...

So, My IMO Uinvest = poor hyip scam nothing more

Jontrill 08-07-2011 04:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4453713)
:lolol:

Uinvest powered by FREE CMS what a joke
(Joomla! is a free and open source content management system - CMS)
Do you trust company that is used say FREE WordPress blog?

Office address, license number - Fake
All this so called Media news etc total BS
anyone may register there for free and submit an article, nothing more but just BS...

So, My IMO Uinvest = poor hyip scam nothing more

What does it matter if a website uses Joomla or not that is completely irrelevant to the issue of whether or not Uinvest is a scam.
Office address and license number are real.

Below are the two REAL addresses that can be visited by anyone:
-Ukraine, 04116 Kiev Melnikova 83
-Beverly Hills Business Center 9595 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 900 Beverly hills, CA 90212

Below you can find the license number that is REAL:
UInvest Inc has been successfully registered in the state of California as a corporation. Our EIN is 45-2545679, our Entity Number is C3385516. The information can be verified at the official website at http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx

Please provide some actual proof of Uinvest being a scam before calling it one.

Joseph 08-07-2011 05:02 AM

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Quote:

What does it matter if a website uses Joomla or not that is completely irrelevant to the issue of whether or not Uinvest is a scam.
:lolol: it is important for me personally, this is enough.
Only complete idiot may trust `Investment Company` if their site is powered by FREE CMS , WordPress blog or hosted at FREE hosting etc

Quote:

Below are the two REAL addresses that can be visited by anyone:
-Ukraine, 04116 Kiev Melnikova 83
Yes addresses real, but there is no Uinvest office

Quote:

-Beverly Hills Business Center 9595 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 900 Beverly hills, CA 90212
This is virtual office

http://www.davincivirtual.co.uk/loc/...s/facility-717

How virtual office solutions work:

Virtual office solutions from Davinci Virtual provide professional and reliable offices and services to small businesses, home offices and traveling business people as well as large companies looking to test in new markets. Virtual office solutions are a cost effective way to ensure that your company always projects the professional image you deserve. Our services include a professional business address to use on business websites or business cards, a live receptionist in the lobby who can greet clients, mail forwarding services, live answering and call forwarding services from the live receptionist, optional directory listings, access to high-end, fully equipped conference rooms and a variety of business support services.

With live answering and call forwarding services from Davinci Virtual, your clients get to speak with a well educated, live receptionist who is extensively trained on your company and your specific needs. This affordable Davinci Virtual solution is a great alternative to callers getting an automated system, answering machine, voicemail or a rushed business owner with no time to answer questions. Our live receptionist solutions include a toll-free or local telephone number, live answering from a live receptionist who can screen, prioritize and transfer calls directly to you, voice mail, electronic fax to email, call forwarding services, appointment scheduling, email, conference calling platform and more.



Virtual office for 6 month cost you 1-2 Big banners for month :holiday:


Quote:

Below you can find the license number that is REAL:
UInvest Inc has been successfully registered in the state of California as a corporation. Our EIN is 45-2545679, our Entity Number is C3385516. The information can be verified at the official website at http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx

Please provide some actual proof of Uinvest being a scam before calling it one.
It's also nothing, and don't allowed you taken money from US people.

What about registration in Ukraine?
Why don't you posting license number.

Jontrill 08-07-2011 05:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4453926)
:lolol: it is important for me personally, this is enough.
Only complete idiot may trust `Investment Company` if their site is powered by FREE CMS , WordPress blog or hosted at FREE hosting etc



Yes addresses real, but there is no Uinvest office



This is virtual office

http://www.davincivirtual.co.uk/loc/...s/facility-717

How virtual office solutions work:

Virtual office solutions from Davinci Virtual provide professional and reliable offices and services to small businesses, home offices and traveling business people as well as large companies looking to test in new markets. Virtual office solutions are a cost effective way to ensure that your company always projects the professional image you deserve. Our services include a professional business address to use on business websites or business cards, a live receptionist in the lobby who can greet clients, mail forwarding services, live answering and call forwarding services from the live receptionist, optional directory listings, access to high-end, fully equipped conference rooms and a variety of business support services.

With live answering and call forwarding services from Davinci Virtual, your clients get to speak with a well educated, live receptionist who is extensively trained on your company and your specific needs. This affordable Davinci Virtual solution is a great alternative to callers getting an automated system, answering machine, voicemail or a rushed business owner with no time to answer questions. Our live receptionist solutions include a toll-free or local telephone number, live answering from a live receptionist who can screen, prioritize and transfer calls directly to you, voice mail, electronic fax to email, call forwarding services, appointment scheduling, email, conference calling platform and more.



Virtual office for 6 month cost you 1-2 Big banners for month :holiday:




It's also nothing, and don't allowed you taken money from US people.

What about registration in Ukraine?
Why don't you posting license number.

You can visit one of our offices (Contuct Us tab) and see registration documents. UInvest was founded in 2007 and now has over 20 employees and offices in Ukraine and the United States (ukrainian registration ID 37635071, american entity number C3385516 ).

You can call or visit our offices in the USA and Ukraine:

Beverly Hills, CA 90212 USA
Suite 900, 9595 Wilshire Blvd
USA (toll free) +1-888-5817883

Ukraine, 04116 Kiev
Melnikova 83
Phone number 0-800-500-179

The above posted directly from the Uinvest website. They are real offices. You can visit and call them. Here are people actually working inside the Real office for everyone to view: https://uinvest.com.ua/uinvest-offices.

As for the rating system, once again, it doesn't prove that any website is a scam by using it. The system is self learning meaning it analyzes activity of each member and determines set of features and terms that should be provided to each member to make UInvest more effective.

Also here is a presentation: https://uinvest.com.ua/images/presentation/UInvest.pdf

calebjor 08-07-2011 06:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrGSH (Post 4451950)
Calebjor, Why would anybody care? Are you by any chance this scam's webmaster?

Hi MrGSH,

I would like to know which company or website are you referring to? Could you please be more specific on your question.

Caleb

Jontrill 08-07-2011 06:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calebjor (Post 4453950)
Hi MrGSH,

I would like to know which company or website are you referring to? Could you please be more specific on your question.

Caleb

He was referring to Uinvest, because you were mentioning Uinvest's company screenshot then he said, "why are you posting screenshots are you the owner of this scam" or something along those terms.

However, it wouldn't even matter whether or not he was referring to Uinvest because he already has a pre-determined mindset that every high yield program on this site is a scam even before it is posted. The reason for that is very simple, it is because he's been here for a while; and he's witnessed so many hyips turn scam and so many people scammed out their money (some even their livelyhood), it's only natural to feel that way. He may deny that, but it's the truth whether he admits it or not.

Joseph 08-07-2011 06:20 PM

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There is no one impressed by your presentation.
Once again, you have no real offices, don't lying here.
ukrainian office complete fake
(Melnikova 83 ) - what is room number, or you are claim the whole building is yours :holiday:
US - just virtual office for Phone support etc

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ukrainian registration ID 37635071
Where is people may check this, give the link so everyone may get it is a Fake

Quote:

american entity number C3385516
Registered for doing what?
sweep the streets or something else?

Quote:

As for the rating system, once again, it doesn't prove that any website is a scam by using it.
No need twist anything here, we talk about the Site not only Rating system

BTW. who you are, just shill or employer of this poor hyip :holiday:

Jontrill 08-07-2011 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4454347)
There is no one impressed by your presentation.
Once again, you have no real offices, don't lying here.
ukrainian office complete fake
(Melnikova 83 ) - what is room number, or you are claim the whole building is yours :holiday:
US - just virtual office for Phone support etc


Where is people may check this, give the link so everyone may get it is a Fake


Registered for doing what?
sweep the streets or something else?



No need twist anything here, we talk about the Site not only Rating system

BTW. who you are, just shill or employer of this poor hyip :holiday:

It's not my presentation, it's Uinvest's presentation.

There are people in the office do you not see, or are you blind? The office is real, you can visit it, you can touch it. You can call them on the phone. I have provided clear evidence of that, you have not provided evidence of anything, you have no argument.

You will clearly never change your mind that everything here is a scam. Keep doing what you do best, insulting people and labeling everything scam so you can feel better about yourself and boost your high and mighty super moderator ego.

Joseph 08-07-2011 06:43 PM

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You have provide nothing all those fake info available on their site.
You problem you have accept it without doing simple DD
sorry for you.

Jontrill 08-07-2011 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4454354)
You have provide nothing all those fake info available on their site.
You problem you have accept it without doing simple DD
sorry for you.

For the third time, you have zero evidence of Uinvest being a scam and zero evidence that the information fake. Mr. Insane, We can keep on going like this if you'd like, but the facts won't change I'm afraid.

mrGSH 08-07-2011 06:49 PM

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Calebjor,
In this post I am asking my question about your particular post that I quote:
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=199
Is it not specific enough?

Quote:

Originally Posted by calebjor (Post 4453950)
Hi MrGSH,

I would like to know which company or website are you referring to? Could you please be more specific on your question.

Caleb


mrGSH 08-07-2011 06:53 PM

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Jontrill,
There is no prove needed. And Uinvest could be a nice game for players.... You are putting claims of it being a legal and a real investment opportunity trying to involve those who do not know better. Uinvest being a pyramid needs no prove. it is an axiom.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jontrill (Post 4454356)
For the third time, you have zero evidence of Uinvest being a scam and zero evidence that the information fake. Mr. Insane, We can keep on going like this if you'd like, but the facts won't change I'm afraid.


honestgroup 08-07-2011 06:57 PM

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so it pay or not ??

Jontrill 08-07-2011 06:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrGSH (Post 4454359)
Jontrill,
There is no prove needed. And Uinvest could be a nice game for players.... You are putting claims of it being a legal and a real investment opportunity trying to involve those who do not know better. Uinvest being a pyramid needs no prove. it is an axiom.

Thank you for proving my point about my previous statement: "However, it wouldn't even matter whether or not he was referring to Uinvest because he already has a pre-determined mindset that every high yield program on this site is a scam even before it is posted. The reason for that is very simple, it is because he's been here for a while; and he's witnessed so many hyips turn scam and so many people scammed out their money (some even their livelyhood), it's only natural to feel that way. He may deny that, but it's the truth whether he admits it or not."

Also, have you noticed super moderators are the only ones saying negative things here. Just thought I would like to emphasize the biased opinions of super moderators, for anyone who doesn't know already.

Joseph 08-07-2011 09:21 PM

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Quote:

I have provided clear evidence of that, you have not provided evidence of anything, you have no argument.
Please don't misleading people here, once again you have proved nothing
All info you have referring to... is available on their site, part are Fake part just useless, and may also proved nothing but just cheat losers who can't do some home work before give money to scammers.


Once again:

Uinvest have no real offices
Uinvest is not registered as an investment company

Quote:

The office is real, you can visit it, you can touch it.
Don't lying please, No anyone can do it, since this one `Melnikova 83` address of some Business building not office address there is ton offices
Uinvest can't provide exactly address since it's would be busted at the same day when they will public it, there is a lot hyip punters from Ukraine / Kiev
who my visit there.

US address - just virtual office for Phone support etc
and yes anyone may visited there, but who is need to do so, since it's virtual office, google `virtual office` for more info if you so impressed by Presentation

Quote:

You can call them on the phone.
Since virtual office service included such type service - probable Yes...
But it's not mean they have Real offices

ukrainian registration ID 37635071 - this is fake License number
american entity number C3385516 - this is License for `street cleaning` or something that is not related to `Investment`

Jontrill 08-07-2011 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4454436)
Please don't misleading people here, once again you have proved nothing
All info you have referring to... is available on their site, part are Fake part just useless, and may also proved nothing but just full losers who can't do some home work before give money to scammers.


Once again:

Uinvest have no real offices
Uinvest is not registered as an investment company


Don't lying please, No anyone can do it, since this one `Melnikova 83` address of some Business building not office address there is ton offices
Uinvest can't provide exactly address since it's would be busted at the same day when they will public it, there is a lot hyip punters from Ukraine / Kiev
who my visit there.

US address - just virtual office for Phone support etc
and yes anyone may visited there, but who is need to do so, since it's virtual office, google `virtual office` for more info if you so impressed by Presentation


Since virtual office service included such type service - probable Yes...
But it's not mean they have Real offices

ukrainian registration ID 37635071 - this is fake License number
american entity number C3385516 - this is License for `street cleaning` or something that is not related to `Investment`

Here we go again, making false claims that Uinvest is "fake" "scam" with zero evidence and zero proof. I have photos license numbers people actually INSIDE the office working. You have absolutely nothing, but keep posting to make yourself feel better. When you are wasting my time and everyone elses by posting this nonsense.

This will keep going under the pre-determined notion "everything is a scam on this website." Everyone please notice his biased views aswell as the other super moderators views. Also notice how every one of them sticks together and forms a "group" detesting every program on this site, whether or not it is a scam or whether or not they have proof of it being a scam.

Not_A_Newbie 08-07-2011 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jontrill (Post 4454438)
Here we go again, making false claims that Uinvest is "fake" "scam" with zero evidence and zero proof. I have photos license numbers people actually INSIDE the office working. You have absolutely nothing, but keep posting to make yourself feel better. When you are wasting my time and everyone elses by posting this nonsense.

This will keep going under the pre-determined notion "everything is a scam on this website." Everyone please notice his biased views aswell as the other super moderators views. Also notice how every one of them sticks together and forms a "group" detesting every program on this site, whether or not it is a scam or whether or not they have proof of it being a scam.

Which office do you have photos of people working? Before you attack me too, I am a member of UInvest and I'd be interested to see the photos.

Jontrill 08-07-2011 10:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notanewbie (Post 4454440)
Which office do you have photos of people working? Before you attack me too, I am a member of UInvest and I'd be interested to see the photos.

https://uinvest.com.ua/uinvest-offices.

Not_A_Newbie 08-07-2011 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jontrill (Post 4454456)

They are the ones on the website, I have seen those. They could be of anyone working in any office. You implied you had photos, I assumed you had personally visited the office and had taken the pictures yourself. So you don't have anything more than what UInvest are telling us, right?

mrGSH 08-07-2011 10:33 PM

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How are photos of some random buildings, dudes and dudets are proof of anything?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jontrill (Post 4454456)


Not_A_Newbie 08-07-2011 10:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrGSH (Post 4454463)
How are photos of some random buildings, dudes and dudets are proof of anything?

Course they are. If you look carefully you will see me right now sat at my computer by a window on the first floor.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...6wkE7TaXuX6owy
:lolol:

mrGSH 08-07-2011 11:11 PM

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It is a nice house.... Probably you need a housekeeper though.... too big...
Quote:

Originally Posted by notanewbie (Post 4454465)
Course they are. If you look carefully you will see me right now sat at my computer by a window on the first floor.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...6wkE7TaXuX6owy
:lolol:


Jontrill 08-08-2011 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notanewbie (Post 4454465)
Course they are. If you look carefully you will see me right now sat at my computer by a window on the first floor.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...6wkE7TaXuX6owy
:lolol:

Look how ignorant these egotistical power-hungry super moderators sound. Am I the only one witnessing such abuse of powers and insulting behavior? If only they knew how biased and idiotic they sound. There is no point to even argue with them; It's like talking to wall with these guys. My points just keep getting proven over and over again by their childish and vile replies. They will never want to admit they are wrong, which is the reason why they are here--to boost their ego and insult people/businesses so they can feel better about themselves.

The super mods will continue to "gang up" against everyone to continue to boost their ego and have pride in themselves which is obviously lacking in the real world. They must make up for it here on this forum. Nothing will ever be "enough" to satisfy their needs/wants. They thrive on the many scams that exist.

I will not reply here anymore as it is clearly a huge waste of time. One day, (I can only hope) you super moderators can realize what you are saying and doing. I hope others can, too, see this obvious corruption and bullying nature of the super moderators within Talkgold forum. I'm sorry for all the honest members of this forum who have to deal with these twisted and tainted super moderators, I honestly pity them.

mrGSH 08-08-2011 12:35 AM

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You are very impolite, my friend. too bad that your warning resulted in a temporary ban, but look at the bright side. You will have some time to adjust your attitude, and come back a better member.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jontrill (Post 4454486)
Look how ignorant these egotistical power-hungry super moderators sound. Am I the only one witnessing such abuse of powers and insulting behavior? If only they knew how biased and idiotic they sound. There is no point to even argue with them; It's like talking to wall with these guys. My points just keep getting proven over and over again by their childish and vile replies. They will never want to admit they are wrong, which is the reason why they are here--to boost their ego and insult people/businesses so they can feel better about themselves.

The super mods will continue to "gang up" against everyone to continue to boost their ego and have pride in themselves which is obviously lacking in the real world. They must make up for it here on this forum. Nothing will ever be "enough" to satisfy their needs/wants. They thrive on the many scams that exist.

I will not reply here anymore as it is clearly a huge waste of time. One day, (I can only hope) you super moderators can realize what you are saying and doing. I hope others can, too, see this obvious corruption and bullying nature of the super moderators within Talkgold forum. I'm sorry for all the honest members of this forum who have to deal with these twisted and tainted super moderators, I honestly pity them.


Tdinoz 08-08-2011 01:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notanewbie (Post 4454465)
Course they are. If you look carefully you will see me right now sat at my computer by a window on the first floor.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...6wkE7TaXuX6owy
:lolol:

Yours smoke free environment as well?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2306/...e08d43d4_m.jpg

haithem 08-08-2011 01:27 AM

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my comments about uinvest that they normal project
how they are working in shares and not use
instant system in payments through libertyreserve
and they have some problems in depositing and withdrawing through paypal
this mean that some countries will not invest with them
i dont interested in words or papers that speak about real business
as most of real investors know that this is in end only words
and when they turn into scam most realize that they arent real business:thumbs up

uinvestcomua 08-08-2011 01:47 PM

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Dear Super Moderators and especially mrGSH :)

My name is Alex Darialov, my company's name UInvest Inc, everyone knows our registration ID, saw our offices and can give us a call. And now who are you, mrGSH? :) Do you at least have a name?

We're not surprised to see your biased opinions about our company. We don't expect good relation from your side since you're earning money on selling advertisement making people investing to HYIP websites. In 90% of countries HYIPs are illegal and proven scam. Hence, your business is to make people bringing money to scammers :)

It is very interesting to see how you blame officially registered company (and you admitted it) for doing things you're earning on :)

Why do you say we're scam? Because we don't buy your banners still being the most successful online program? :) Or because people see one doesn't need to invest in illegal HYIPs to keep making money? Sorry for affecting your business guys :)

MrGSH, you should not tell things you are not sure of. Because everyone is responsible for his words, even though he thinks he can hide behind an internet nick:)

So, let's talk seriously now because I consider your words as an attempt to bring harm to our company. We take it seriously so we are going to take appropriate measures.

Unfortunately, your comments are not clear enough to make any conclusions so I put all together what you said:

1. You think our company is not registered or licensed
2. You think our offices don't exist
3. You think that investment company cannot use open source scripts in their activity

Please add to the list if I forgot something and I will be happy to comment. If you don't add anything I will consider this list full and I will come to comment it. Then, after I give you my answers you will admit you said things you were not aware of and you will bring excuses.

Deal? :)

mrGSH 08-08-2011 02:43 PM

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Dear g-n Darialov,
I like my relative anonymity and I am not about to plaster my name over the Internet, I do not know anyone I can trust who seen your offices, not counting photos, which is what they are, just photos.
I do not know how you came with that ridiculous number of 90% of HYIPs being scams, because judging from my past experience all of the previous ones were. It make it 100% is it not? I appreciate your advice about what I should and should not say.... I think in your language is called "za bazar otvetish". If your company were real, how would some post in the internet forum effect it? Are you saying your whole model is depending on the fresh money coming in?

You being a pyramid does not matter for regular players, but you claiming being a real investment, especially in the USA can bring unnecessary damage to some greedy innocents, and even to the regular suspects... You being or not a pyramid and or scam was not my question.... My question was whether or not Calebjor is your webmaster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua (Post 4455015)
Dear Super Moderators and especially mrGSH :)

My name is Alex Darialov, my company's name UInvest Inc, everyone knows our registration ID, saw our offices and can give us a call. And now who are you, mrGSH? :) Do you at least have a name?

We're not surprised to see your biased opinions about our company. We don't expect good relation from your side since you're earning money on selling advertisement making people investing to HYIP websites. In 90% of countries HYIPs are illegal and proven scam. Hence, your business is to make people bringing money to scammers :)

It is very interesting to see how you blame officially registered company (and you admitted it) for doing things you're earning on :)

Why do you say we're scam? Because we don't buy your banners still being the most successful online program? :) Or because people see one doesn't need to invest in illegal HYIPs to keep making money? Sorry for affecting your business guys :)

MrGSH, you should not tell things you are not sure of. Because everyone is responsible for his words, even though he thinks he can hide behind an internet nick:)

So, let's talk seriously now because I consider your words as an attempt to bring harm to our company. We take it seriously so we are going to take appropriate measures.

Unfortunately, your comments are not clear enough to make any conclusions so I put all together what you said:

1. You think our company is not registered or licensed
2. You think our offices don't exist
3. You think that investment company cannot use open source scripts in their activity

Please add to the list if I forgot something and I will be happy to comment. If you don't add anything I will consider this list full and I will come to comment it. Then, after I give you my answers you will admit you said things you were not aware of and you will bring excuses.

Deal? :)


haithem 08-08-2011 02:44 PM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua (Post 4455015)
Dear Super Moderators and especially mrGSH :)

My name is Alex Darialov, my company's name UInvest Inc, everyone knows our registration ID, saw our offices and can give us a call. And now who are you, mrGSH? :) Do you at least have a name?

We're not surprised to see your biased opinions about our company. We don't expect good relation from your side since you're earning money on selling advertisement making people investing to HYIP websites. In 90% of countries HYIPs are illegal and proven scam. Hence, your business is to make people bringing money to scammers :)

It is very interesting to see how you blame officially registered company (and you admitted it) for doing things you're earning on :)

Why do you say we're scam? Because we don't buy your banners still being the most successful online program? :) Or because people see one doesn't need to invest in illegal HYIPs to keep making money? Sorry for affecting your business guys :)

MrGSH, you should not tell things you are not sure of. Because everyone is responsible for his words, even though he thinks he can hide behind an internet nick:)

So, let's talk seriously now because I consider your words as an attempt to bring harm to our company. We take it seriously so we are going to take appropriate measures.

Unfortunately, your comments are not clear enough to make any conclusions so I put all together what you said:

1. You think our company is not registered or licensed
2. You think our offices don't exist
3. You think that investment company cannot use open source scripts in their activity

Please add to the list if I forgot something and I will be happy to comment. If you don't add anything I will consider this list full and I will come to comment it. Then, after I give you my answers you will admit you said things you were not aware of and you will bring excuses.

Deal? :)

ok you say that your company not hyip that stay some months and then turn into scam
although some hyips have real business like macrotrade or safedepositary
ok your company not hyip and owen real bussiness and regesited in united states ok tell us why forexample your company dont use instant payment through libertyreserve like most hyips now?
the strong hyips that have real business use instant payments to make investors trust more in their services
also can you tell us how long uinvest can stay in this markets to not be like scam hyips?
i mean that your company have any plans to continue years in market and investments or they will continue some months and then disappear :dancedog:

uinvestcomua 08-08-2011 03:24 PM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
I am glad you responded. Thus we will be able to discuss the matter and come to an informative conclusion.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mrGSH (Post 4455045)
I do not know how you came with that ridiculous number of 90% of HYIPs being scams

I never tell 90% of HYIPs are scams, they are all scams. Read carefully what I said -
Quote:

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua (Post 4455015)
In 90% of countries HYIPs are illegal and proven scam.

which means there are still countries that don't care what HYIPs are. I am glad you agree that HYIPs are illegal, thus I won't need to explain why I said this forum earns on advertising illegal activity :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrGSH (Post 4455045)
If your company were real, how would some post in the internet forum effect it?

Again, you don't read my statements correctly. Here is what I said

Quote:

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua (Post 4455015)
So, let's talk seriously now because I consider your words as an attempt to bring harm to our company.


You're obviously making an attempt to bring harm to our company. Of course, such posts on such forum as TG will not have any effect. But still you are making an attempt and you must have good reasons for doing this. Do you?


Quote:

Originally Posted by mrGSH (Post 4455045)
You being or not a pyramid and or scam was not my question.... My question was whether or not Calebjor is your webmaster.

Sorry, but you obviously mentioned word 'scam' with regards to our company.
I contacted you through PM because I assumed I got you wrong. However, you didn't respond. Then I asked you in public.

You see, everyone has his own point of view and it is fine. I personally respect everyone's point of view even though it can sound offensive. But in any case I think all reasonable people should base their points on something. I was under impression moderators must be reasonable. And since I am sure you're reasonable person you should provide your reasons to tell we're a 'scam' or bring excuses to our company.

uinvestcomua 08-08-2011 03:39 PM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haithem (Post 4455046)
ok you say that your company not hyip that stay some months and then turn into scam
although some hyips have real business like macrotrade or safedepositary
ok your company not hyip and owen real bussiness and regesited in united states ok tell us why forexample your company dont use instant payment through libertyreserve like most hyips now?
the strong hyips that have real business use instant payments to make investors trust more in their services
also can you tell us how long uinvest can stay in this markets to not be like scam hyips?
i mean that your company have any plans to continue years in market and investments or they will continue some months and then disappear :dancedog:


Sometimes I miss my old B&W monitor :)

Anyway, let me comment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haithem (Post 4455046)
why forexample your company dont use instant payment through libertyreserve like most hyips now?

First of all, there are lots of HYIP things we don't do. HYIPs are illegal, they know it and they have to convince people they will pay. For some months :)

I think you refer to auto withdrawals? Because we do accept LR payments instantly. We do not do anything automatically because we're semi offline company. All the things we do must be confirmed with our internal accounting and must be reviewed by our security dept. All of our customers and businesses get paid within 24 hrs, which is not bad I guess.


Quote:

Originally Posted by haithem (Post 4455046)
also can you tell us how long uinvest can stay in this markets to not be like scam hyips?
i mean that your company have any plans to continue years in market and investments or they will continue some months and then disappear

The point is that we have just started :) We've been here for 5 years but we have just made first steps to achieve our goals. We're building an online marketplace where shares of global companies will be traded 24/7/365. First online exchange available for everyone. Wherever you are, you can deposit funds and trade shares with no limits. And shares - not giants like Coca Cola or Google, shares of usual businesses you can come and touch like local restaurants or manufactures. They need money, you need shares - this is why UInvest exists and doing well. :)

Stop fighting, let's make money together, guys. Lots of opportunities are still coming, why waste time posting crap on forums? Making money is better :)

mrGSH 08-08-2011 04:45 PM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
According to YOU all HYIPs are scams.
So here it is:
HYIPs=scam
Uinvest=HYIP
Uinvest=scam
Q.E.D.

Quote:

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua (Post 4455081)
I never tell 90% of HYIPs are scams, they are all scams. Read carefully what I said -

Honestly, I do not really care what your company is, and whether it is or isn't.
Quote:

You're obviously making an attempt to bring harm to our company. Of course, such posts on such forum as TG will not have any effect. But still you are making an attempt and you must have good reasons for doing this. Do you?
No problem... In public is better. I posted short and sweet proof at the beginning of this post, but obviously more can be said... You probably can find a couple yourself ;-)
Quote:

Sorry, but you obviously mentioned word 'scam' with regards to our company.
I contacted you through PM because I assumed I got you wrong. However, you didn't respond. Then I asked you in public.
Quote:

You see, everyone has his own point of view and it is fine. I personally respect everyone's point of view even though it can sound offensive. But in any case I think all reasonable people should base their points on something. I was under impression moderators must be reasonable. And since I am sure you're reasonable person you should provide your reasons to tell we're a 'scam' or bring excuses to our company.
Well, Aleksandr, again, your company being or not being a scam was not what I asked. I asked if Calebjor is your web-designer. Is he?

uinvestcomua 08-08-2011 09:01 PM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
mrGSH, no, this respected person is not our webmaster and it doesn't really matter now what was your first question - you referred to our company as a 'scam'. I kindly ask you to enlighten us all and explain what you really meant :)


So far the only explanation I saw is

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrGSH (Post 4455161)
According to YOU all HYIPs are scams.
So here it is:
HYIPs=scam
Uinvest=HYIP
Uinvest=scam
Q.E.D.


UInvest is not a HYIP, sorry :( UInvest makes money by selling shares and earns money on commission it receives from doing this. This information can be easily found in our TOS, studied further by observing our business model and can be confirmed by the fact that we're in the process of getting licensed as a securities broker/dealer in the state of California. Check SEC website and learn more what it is. :) Seems like you're not aware what you talk about.

Is that the only thing you can say to justify your words? If so, send me request via PM, I will provide you with details of our lawyers in the USA who currently guide UInvest Inc through the licensing process. You will contact them and finally say your excuses in public.

Deal? :)


P.S. Are there any other more informed moderators who can explain me why we were named as 'scam'? Or you're all the same here? :) Come on guys, show up!

mrGSH 08-08-2011 10:08 PM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
Uinvest is not HYIP?
What about this:
http://i.imm.io/7NOU.png
But regardless, if he is not your webmaster, what was that rediculous post about updating your site? Any idea?
Quote:

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua (Post 4455328)
mrGSH, no, this respected person is not our webmaster and it doesn't really matter now what was your first question - you referred to our company as a 'scam'. I kindly ask you to enlighten us all and explain what you really meant :)


So far the only explanation I saw is

UInvest is not a HYIP, sorry :( UInvest makes money by selling shares and earns money on commission it receives from doing this. This information can be easily found in our TOS, studied further by observing our business model and can be confirmed by the fact that we're in the process of getting licensed as a securities broker/dealer in the state of California. Check SEC website and learn more what it is. :) Seems like you're not aware what you talk about.

Is that the only thing you can say to justify your words? If so, send me request via PM, I will provide you with details of our lawyers in the USA who currently guide UInvest Inc through the licensing process. You will contact them and finally say your excuses in public.

Deal? :)


P.S. Are there any other more informed moderators who can explain me why we were named as 'scam'? Or you're all the same here? :) Come on guys, show up!


Joseph 08-09-2011 03:01 AM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
Quote:

we're in the process of getting licensed as a securities broker/dealer in the state of California
So fact is Uinvest have no US license, thanks for confirmation...

To begin honest with your investors you must also confirm
that Uinvest also have no Ukrainian license or any else to taken investment, but just registered as a some business just like you do it in the state of California.

You must also confirm that your US office is not Real but Virtual office
You must also confirm that you have no Real office in Ukraine too
Address that is provided at your site just some business registration address in Ukraine but not your real office.

Since honest company will not cheat people by the fake or semi false information. You must be not misleading people here, maybe then people would be not call you a scam...

BTW. Ask another time why people call you a scam and you get another facts of yours lying or providing false info and so on, more nothing.

uinvestcomua 08-09-2011 05:32 AM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrGSH (Post 4455359)
Uinvest is not HYIP?
What about this:
http://i.imm.io/7NOU.png
But regardless, if he is not your webmaster, what was that rediculous post about updating your site? Any idea?


So you, mrGSH decided that everything that is discussed here is HYIP? :) You're very smart! Let's discuss Federal Reserve and USA economics here :)

mrGSH, UInvest plays on this market to give people understanding that you don't need to deal with illegal HYIPs to still make good money online. In other words, our mission is to make you find another ways of income, dear super moderators :)

BTW, we have a moderator vacancy on our forum, very good salary. mrGSH and Joseph, I can consider your VC :)

uinvestcomua 08-09-2011 05:53 AM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4455534)
So fact is Uinvest have no US license, thanks for confirmation...

You're welcome but every uinvestor is aware of it. :) Getting licensed as a securities broker/dealer is not easy but we wouldn't start this process if we weren't sure about success.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4455534)
To begin honest with your investors you must also confirm
that Uinvest also have no Ukrainian license or any else to taken investment, but just registered as a some business just like you do it in the state of California.

Sorry, but to you seem to have not enough knowledge on this matter. Being an agent of a bank UInvest is allowed to conduct financial operations :) You think we run this business for 5 years illegally? Dear Joseph, this is the first thing our lawyers took care of when we started. :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4455534)
You must also confirm that your US office is not Real but Virtual office

I will be happy to help you here Joseph but I can't. 1 person is there all the time, meets people etc. Real people, Joseph, no virtual :) Moreover, this address is our official address in the state registry which can be also easily verified.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4455534)
You must also confirm that you have no Real office in Ukraine too
Address that is provided at your site just some business registration address in Ukraine but not your real office.

Can you please elaborate on this? :) Just please give facts, ok? Of course it is a real address, Joseph. But I can't wait to see your explanations, which I am sure will be provided since you're reasonable, adult person who takes responsibility for his words

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph (Post 4455534)
Since honest company will not cheat people by the fake or semi false information. You must be not misleading people here, maybe then people would be not call you a scam...

BTW. Ask another time why people call you a scam and you get another facts of yours lying or providing false info and so on, more nothing.

Dear Joseph, people don't call us scam, super moderators do :) Why people would call us scam if they can just go to our website, read success stories, communicate with 50 people that are now online and give it a try? It doesn't cost a lot to see if all of this real, $15 is a minimum investment.

What is even more funny is that super moderators and HYIP administrators also invest in UInvest. They never tell about this in public though. :)

amrutrk 08-09-2011 07:18 AM

Re: Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua
 
What I believe about Uinvest is, they're pretty transparent about their business and as they've signed an NDA document with their respective business owners, they've to bind by it. Even huge companies follow NDA if you aren't aware of.

Secondly, I'm a satisfied customer @ Uinvest and if anyone just keeps their comment to just 1 or 2 posts about what they feel abt Uinvest would be good, because if all come and comment 10 times saying bad abt Uinvest, really do hurt any company's goodwill, if 100 people on this forum say Vista 7 is horrible, believe me, you're the one who're not gonna buy it and you know that fact. There's something called goodwill.

Also, I'm very excited to see Admin coming here and explaining all the facts about Uinvest, makes me more confident about their business lasting longer. Ofcourse, there's a risk (As they say), but which does'nt, you're not a small kid putting you're money in a kitty bank which yields 5% interest annually. I feel members need to grow up and accept what is what and make the business run longer.

Lastly, if they say they're not licensed, you need to provide them some time on the basis that they've shown us proofs of their registration in US, which you can verify on the official US government website. Plus, they've published some articles in yahoo, I feel the members can accomodate to give them sometime. The thing what's happening here is, members can give time, but the opposition cannot, which is what is happening. Come, be a member, understand the business, visit the office/place if you can and then comment on it, which I feel would be appropriate. :-)

Note: This post is not intended to anyone, but I feel it's better not to quote or attack me which would again does'nt go good with a poster's character.

Regards,
Amrut.


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