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Old 03-09-2005, 05:08 AM
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Do not buy their card. It either does not work or takes weeks to get funded. The card being advertised is not the one you get because it doesn't exist according to VISA and XL (card issuer) personnel. Paper work for logo never submitted according to same. You get a "temporary card" for your troubles

Do not buy any CAN products. They either do not exist, do not work, or are never delivered. Just ask the people who have been members and forked over millions of dollars where are the products that were offered, paid for, and never delivered.

Members purchased "City Sites" that were quickly confiscated due to new rule about "sales targets" A rule that was not listed at the time of purchase of the City Sites. CEO refuses to refund members their money for sites he confiscated. He is KEEPING the money.

CEO is illegally holding funds and only select members may get payment. He didn't like it that members asked the hard questions so he froze their accounts. Members with longer history with CAN have left and retained legal representation to pursue legal action against CEO.

Blatant lies foam from CEO's hole in face called a mouth. Each lie very easy to blow apart.

CAN is now being investigated by FBI and INTERPOLE just to name a few.

BEWARE!!! Do not associate nor align yourself with this scam from Spain. Once you pay your money you can't get it out of their "pay processor" CANpay or CAN'Tpay, if you will. Bankwire requests over 2 months late. Excuses, Excuses, Excuses ad nauseum, but final result is no payment.

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Old 03-09-2005, 01:35 PM
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100% agree. I have a reallllyyyyy bad experience with these spammers, scammers, frauds, etc... :LO:
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:03 PM
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Two years ago CAN was the cats ass of internet programs. Everywhere you looked people were singing it's praises much like PIPS was infallible back in October 2004. This is another reason why I don't trust PIPS. It has too many similarities to CAN, which also paid a lot of people for quite a long time and is still paying some people.

CAN was also going to franchise a chain of CAFES a year ago. They posted pictures and everybody and his mother was going to own a CAN Cafe. My how time changes everything.
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:42 PM
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WHAT? A "cat's ass???"

Oh, Karen, I'm going to be sick I'm laughing so hard!
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:39 PM
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How do I unsubscribe to their BS newsletters? I deleted my member information, so I have no way of logging into my account to delete my membership. And you can't just reply with "remove" in the subject line. Damn spammers.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:40 AM
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Oh you bet CAN is a scam from start to finish! I have posted some information regarding the CAN Discount VISA Faux Card in the e-currency thread, you should read that!


DO NOT INVEST ANY MONEY IN THE MINI PROTAL..

Members that earned money through the portals have had their CAN-PAY
accounts frozen so they cannot withdraw the money

Those of us who were ardant promoters of CAN months ago truly believed
and believe me, there are many who deeply regret this. That's why we are
working on bringing ALL the TRUTHS out so no one else will be burned.
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Old 03-15-2005, 01:35 AM
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C.A.N. CEO Rick Little is a liar, plain and simple. Had to laugh at his quote as follows:

"These are the sort of messages that you guys should be putting out to these people who make these stupid comments in other forums. "Oh nancy, $850 pending, wow that is very scary because i dont see anyone getting a dime out of CAN ever, this whole card thing was a fraud from the get go." This comes from a person who, without the help of Sharon and I would have lost their home. All because they dont bother to read, because they think they know better. I'm afraid this person will be in for a shock, because all of these postings I can trace back"

This quote was transcribed and posted in the CAN forum. The fact is that I am the one who posted the "nancy" comment, and I can assue you that

1. I never asked for help or assistance from Rick Little
2. I did in fact mention when I requested refunds on services not delivered that I would be losing my home and the REFUND was made more important by this.

The refunds I requested were denied in this email, prior and subsequent emails until they ceased all communication with me.

In fact, read for yourself, Rick Little responses are in blue:


Please find answers below



From: Debra Beckham [mailto:deb@can-roguevalley.com]
Sent: miércoles, 08 de diciembre de 2004 8:28
To: Rick Little; acc@it-pa.com
Subject: Refund Request





After months of begging and pleading, the problems with my site and/or other

issues are still unresolved. I’ve followed all the instructions given, emailed

the appropriate people at the correct published emails, and still no resolution.



Unfortunately, my life has taken a turn and my home will be foreclosed. In

60 days I will be homeless, and therefore would appreciate refunds

on the following:



WTD Listing – Village Advents

This listing was placed on 9/26 from can-roguevalley.com and it has

NOT been fixed, after 3 months worth of emails to you. The

following payment was made through my credit card:

09/29/04 $15.00

This has been fixed and you can edit the details in your back office


**Note - this was never fixed, he is lying




Bulk Discount Cards

On 9/3 I purchased a lot of 50 discount cards. Had the cards been sent 3

months ago I would have had time to sell them, but now it will be impossible.

I would appreciate having this order cancelled and refunded: Here are the

original payment details:



Date: Wed, 1 September 2004

Time: 05:29:03

To: Comminuty Action Network S.L (stormpayincoming@can-portals.com) Certified

Amount: $-250.00 USD



This was explained because of the Changeover to VISA and they are on the way to you

**Another lie, when he started "giving" the cards away I demanded and received a refund in February 05. They were NEVER on their way to me

Network Agent Status

On August 28th, when I paid for my domain through live help, I asked a question regarding Network Agents. My question was: “if I upgrade to network status would I be charged the full $100 in addition to the $31 previously paid?

The agent misunderstood this and charged my credit card the $100. Stupidly, I allowed this to go through assuming (**Agent is Rick Little's son)

that I would have done it at some point anyways. After all this, the rep tells me that “oh, there already is a network

agent in this area.” After some discussion it was decided that I might be able to have this area, and that someone

would get back to me to confirm or refund the charge. When I emailed Rick about this on 11/9 you replied: “I have asked for this to be investigated”
A month has gone by with no response, and I am now requesting
a refund. The payment details are as follows:


08/26/04 $112.00

There is no refunds available on Domains…..

**Note, the man cannot read, never once did I ask in this email for a domain refund, this was regarding network agent status

The total refund I am requesting is $377.00 which can be sent to either of the following:



At least this money coming back to me will help in putting a roof over my head in 2 months.

As far as my site, can-roguevalley.com, it’s been 3 months and still not programmed for

the cities I had planned on working. This is apparent from the missing listings, Village Advents,

Budget, etc. I have sent thousands of emails, hundreds of faxes, dozens of phone calls and

Oregon is just not ready for this yet. In going through the other USA sites, I am not alone.

It’s a shame, because I was willing to give this 200%, and what was supposed to make

money for has lost money and my time to build this has run out.

Thank you,
Debra Beckham





Finally, is this comment "
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Old 03-15-2005, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: Can Is A Scam

C.A.N. CEO Rick Little is a liar, plain and simple. Had to laugh at his quote as follows:

"These are the sort of messages that you guys should be putting out to these people who make these stupid comments in other forums. "Oh nancy, $850 pending, wow that is very scary because i dont see anyone getting a dime out of CAN ever, this whole card thing was a fraud from the get go." This comes from a person who, without the help of Sharon and I would have lost their home. All because they dont bother to read, because they think they know better. I'm afraid this person will be in for a shock, because all of these postings I can trace back"

This quote was transcribed and posted in the CAN forum. The fact is that I am the one who posted the "nancy" comment, and I can assue you that

1. I never asked for help or assistance from Rick Little
2. I did in fact mention when I requested refunds on services not delivered that I would be losing my home and the REFUND was made more important by this.

The refunds I requested were denied in this email, prior and subsequent emails until they ceased all communication with me.

In fact, read for yourself, Rick Little responses are in blue:


Please find answers below



From: Debra Beckham [mailto:deb@can-roguevalley.com]
Sent: miércoles, 08 de diciembre de 2004 8:28
To: Rick Little; acc@it-pa.com
Subject: Refund Request





After months of begging and pleading, the problems with my site and/or other

issues are still unresolved. I’ve followed all the instructions given, emailed

the appropriate people at the correct published emails, and still no resolution.



Unfortunately, my life has taken a turn and my home will be foreclosed. In

60 days I will be homeless, and therefore would appreciate refunds

on the following:



WTD Listing – Village Advents

This listing was placed on 9/26 from can-roguevalley.com and it has

NOT been fixed, after 3 months worth of emails to you. The

following payment was made through my credit card:

09/29/04 $15.00

This has been fixed and you can edit the details in your back office


**Note - this was never fixed, he is lying




Bulk Discount Cards

On 9/3 I purchased a lot of 50 discount cards. Had the cards been sent 3

months ago I would have had time to sell them, but now it will be impossible.

I would appreciate having this order cancelled and refunded: Here are the

original payment details:



Date: Wed, 1 September 2004

Time: 05:29:03

To: Comminuty Action Network S.L (stormpayincoming@can-portals.com) Certified

Amount: $-250.00 USD



This was explained because of the Changeover to VISA and they are on the way to you

**Another lie, when he started "giving" the cards away I demanded and received a refund in February 05. They were NEVER on their way to me

Network Agent Status

On August 28th, when I paid for my domain through live help, I asked a question regarding Network Agents. My question was: “if I upgrade to network status would I be charged the full $100 in addition to the $31 previously paid?

The agent misunderstood this and charged my credit card the $100. Stupidly, I allowed this to go through assuming (**Agent is Rick Little's son)

that I would have done it at some point anyways. After all this, the rep tells me that “oh, there already is a network

agent in this area.” After some discussion it was decided that I might be able to have this area, and that someone

would get back to me to confirm or refund the charge. When I emailed Rick about this on 11/9 you replied: “I have asked for this to be investigated”
A month has gone by with no response, and I am now requesting
a refund. The payment details are as follows:


08/26/04 $112.00

There is no refunds available on Domains…..

**Note, the man cannot read, never once did I ask in this email for a domain refund, this was regarding network agent status

The total refund I am requesting is $377.00 which can be sent to either of the following:



At least this money coming back to me will help in putting a roof over my head in 2 months.

As far as my site, can-roguevalley.com, it’s been 3 months and still not programmed for

the cities I had planned on working. This is apparent from the missing listings, Village Advents,

Budget, etc. I have sent thousands of emails, hundreds of faxes, dozens of phone calls and

Oregon is just not ready for this yet. In going through the other USA sites, I am not alone.

It’s a shame, because I was willing to give this 200%, and what was supposed to make

money for has lost money and my time to build this has run out.

Thank you,
Debra Beckham





Finally, is this comment "I can trace you"a threat?
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Old 03-15-2005, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MotherLode
WHAT? A "cat's ass???"

I'm going to be sick I'm laughing so hard!
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I'm glad I could brighten your day.

We have some "weird expressions" (quote from my daughter) here.

We often refer to something that is useful, or new and innovative as "the cat's ass" or the "cat's meow".

Don't ask me where these expressions came from or why?? I really have no idea. We live on an island in the Atlantic and the dialect spoken here hasn't changed a lot since people migrated here from England, Ireland, and Scotland 500 years ago.

We haven't become Americanized yet. lol No offence to Americans.

Our written language is similar to the US and the rest of Canada but our spoken language is quite unique. I often find myself conciously trying to change my speech patterns when talking to people from outside the province so they can understand me.

If I was to call a friend and ask his plans for today it would sound something like this.

Wadda ya at daday? Try saying it very fast and you will get some idea. We are more lower class British than the lower class Brits are. hahaha


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Old 03-15-2005, 01:07 PM
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Similar problem with me Debra. As I posted in other threads (especially in debit cards forlder), I sent $100 to the card from my stormpay account. It was loaded last November 19 but until now, nothing happens with my pending transaction.

I't just $100 but here in Philippines, Its a one month salary of a factory worker.. The truth came out. Rick Little is a scammer and cannot explain why these things are happening.

I think we can do a complain. I am far away and have no idea how to do it but I'm sure there are some members here who knows how to file a formal complain..
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