OK guys as you know I was banned by fred (me222) as he suspected that I scammed.
After a hell lot of support from my customers and friends I was given a chance to prove my innocence and I did that.
One user of tg who blamed me of scamming made up a post and me222 has promised he will be banned. I haven't check that but will post result here.
Now it is a big thanks to those who helped me.
I would really like to thank a lot to these people.
Don-Montana
PlasticFortune
fastgold
cheapegold
KingdomR
Mad Frankie
AquaX
sayonarax
Protonus45
aliceinc
zi007ad
jeflee's Avatar
jeflee
Topio
littlegreenwarrior
martin.nl
TrustNOBODYnever
fatalerro
ELLOCO81
Once again I seriously thanks to all above members who are either my friends or customers ( well friends as well ).
Also I would like to post the chat log that I had with mod me222.
After talking to him i did not find him as bad as i was thinking. But yes I was angry at him.Here is the log
Date Time From To Message
7/17/2007 12:28:35 PM Toonsmania Fred hello fred
7/17/2007 12:28:45 PM Fred Toonsmania hi there, finally
7/17/2007 12:28:56 PM Toonsmania Fred hehe finally ...that i should say :P
7/17/2007 12:29:01 PM Toonsmania Fred ok great
7/17/2007 12:29:12 PM Toonsmania Fred lets clear your doubts
7/17/2007 12:29:28 PM Toonsmania Fred so tell me how many complaints you think u want from me to be clear ?
7/17/2007 12:30:54 PM Fred Toonsmania that's not the question, really. I don't need to see your e-gold either, you haven proven that you refunded ecurrencyphd with that link, so no need for that either
7/17/2007 12:31:26 PM Fred Toonsmania and prove that he was refunded was what I needed
7/17/2007 12:31:42 PM Toonsmania Fred so i m not guilty ?
7/17/2007 12:32:33 PM Fred Toonsmania however I have serious doubts about your business ethicals. I've seen your language on TG, I realize you don't answer customers who have questions you don't like to answer
7/17/2007 12:33:57 PM Toonsmania Fred ok i wudnt fall in argument
7/17/2007 12:34:07 PM Toonsmania Fred but if you can show me threads i can clear doubts
7/17/2007 12:34:14 PM Toonsmania Fred just as i did this one
7/17/2007 12:34:23 PM Toonsmania Fred you can put questions any time you want
7/17/2007 12:34:30 PM Fred Toonsmania at first, I really thought you scammed some. Then you refunded aquaX when you felt the heat, then the other guy - quick something - made up that conversation, he's going to be banned BTW, then there was ecurrencyphd where I needed evidence, talked a couple of times with that guy
7/17/2007 12:35:09 PM Toonsmania Fred aquax was a case where i sent him card via regualr mail
7/17/2007 12:35:16 PM Toonsmania Fred not u can understand the case of regular mail
7/17/2007 12:35:18 PM Fred Toonsmania I think you come close to a scammer when you take people's money and then you refuse to answer their emails
7/17/2007 12:35:43 PM Toonsmania Fred he DID recieve email from vmi company that his card was registrere ( as he mentioned)
7/17/2007 12:35:52 PM Toonsmania Fred so there was no scam at all
7/17/2007 12:36:02 PM Toonsmania Fred you can understand that things get lost in regular mail easily
7/17/2007 12:36:17 PM Toonsmania Fred i never refused any email
7/17/2007 12:36:28 PM Fred Toonsmania the 'scamming' part is your non-communication with some customers
7/17/2007 12:36:39 PM Fred Toonsmania I don't believe this, frankly
7/17/2007 12:36:45 PM Toonsmania Fred if you go through ecurrencyphd's email you will see
7/17/2007 12:36:54 PM Toonsmania Fred that i was sympathetic with him
7/17/2007 12:36:54 PM Fred Toonsmania he must have sent more than 1 email
7/17/2007 12:37:19 PM Fred Toonsmania I don't think you were, I was reading your replies just a couple of minutes ago
7/17/2007 12:37:24 PM Toonsmania Fred i replied all
7/17/2007 12:37:36 PM Fred Toonsmania I mean on TG
7/17/2007 12:37:40 PM Toonsmania Fred untill he started saying bs about my cards
7/17/2007 12:37:56 PM Fred Toonsmania the man got angry, frustrated that you took his money and refused to answer.
7/17/2007 12:37:59 PM Toonsmania Fred he said it didnt work and at the same time he said that it made his account limited
7/17/2007 12:38:17 PM Toonsmania Fred and trust me i did not have e-gold at that time
7/17/2007 12:38:24 PM Fred Toonsmania I think you are misusing the fact that you have an older TG account and a lot of happy customers
7/17/2007 12:38:24 PM Toonsmania Fred even though he used card
7/17/2007 12:38:33 PM Toonsmania Fred blamed me first of defunct card
7/17/2007 12:38:42 PM Toonsmania Fred even then i was ready to refund
7/17/2007 12:38:53 PM Toonsmania Fred now after bearing all this no normal person wud be calm
7/17/2007 12:39:15 PM Toonsmania Fred he was just like one of other bad customer who wants things for free
7/17/2007 12:40:41 PM Fred Toonsmania ok, that's your side of the story... I will unban you now, but I hope you can be a little more professional in your use of language from now on, and as a suggestion: just refund annoying members immediately
7/17/2007 12:41:19 PM Toonsmania Fred hehe i know
7/17/2007 12:41:29 PM Toonsmania Fred but some time yyou feel like this
7/17/2007 12:41:45 PM Toonsmania Fred ok you want it that way then you gonna get that way ...so bring it all
7/17/2007 12:42:05 PM Fred Toonsmania I will not apologize since you will double your sales on Tg, maybe I should ask for a share of the surplus in profit
7/17/2007 12:42:22 PM Toonsmania Fred sure i m ready to work with you any time
7/17/2007 12:42:32 PM Toonsmania Fred put the link in your signature
7/17/2007 12:42:50 PM Toonsmania Fred and may be i can send you 100-200/month not much but extra is extra
7/17/2007 12:43:15 PM Fred Toonsmania thanks but no thanks
7/17/2007 12:43:19 PM Toonsmania Fred
7/17/2007 12:43:38 PM Toonsmania Fred heheh i know you making good in supporting hyip scam lol
7/17/2007 12:43:53 PM Toonsmania Fred don mind
7/17/2007 12:43:58 PM Toonsmania Fred kidding
7/17/2007 12:44:01 PM Toonsmania Fred
7/17/2007 12:44:15 PM Fred Toonsmania I'm not supporting any HYIP, I'm just monitoring them, and I'm pretty strict
7/17/2007 12:44:33 PM Fred Toonsmania ok, you're unbanned
7/17/2007 12:44:46 PM Toonsmania Fred yep i can see how strict one cud be to one who is paying you money
7/17/2007 12:44:48 PM Toonsmania Fred great
7/17/2007 12:44:51 PM Toonsmania Fred many thanks
7/17/2007 12:45:11 PM Toonsmania Fred tell me one thing though
7/17/2007 12:45:34 PM Toonsmania Fred did you really not feeel anything bad banning one of the oldest seller there
7/17/2007 12:45:41 PM Fred Toonsmania hmm, you'd be surprised about me, honestly. I've put more than one in the scam folder because it didn't pay a big investor, but was paying me
7/17/2007 12:46:14 PM Fred Toonsmania no, even if there is only 1% of chance that you were scamming, I would have done it, to protect the membership
7/17/2007 12:47:04 PM Toonsmania Fred btw hope you understand that it is pretty tough to maintain 100% feedback
7/17/2007 12:47:11 PM Toonsmania Fred i might have unhappy customers
7/17/2007 12:47:16 PM Toonsmania Fred but not scammed one
7/17/2007 12:47:38 PM Toonsmania Fred anyway fred it is great plz also unban the sayonarax as well
7/17/2007 12:48:35 PM Toonsmania Fred and plz ban that quietmoney07 guy as well as he made his post
7/17/2007 12:48:54 PM Fred Toonsmania I understand but there were too many complaints. Then I ban the person in question since, at that time, there was too much doubt, then I see if that person can prove his/her innocence (always the case when you did nothing wrong). That's how it works
7/17/2007 12:49:16 PM Fred Toonsmania I do the moderating work without emotions, preferences, etc
7/17/2007 12:49:27 PM Fred Toonsmania ok, will ban him now
7/17/2007 12:50:15 PM Toonsmania Fred plz sayonarax as well ( lift his ban as well)
7/17/2007 12:50:38 PM Fred Toonsmania who is that?
7/17/2007 12:50:53 PM Toonsmania Fred let me give u his id
7/17/2007 12:50:59 PM Toonsmania Fred you can check in you ban list
7/17/2007 12:52:06 PM Toonsmania Fred now tell me one thing
7/17/2007 12:52:06 PM Fred Toonsmania I don't unban members who were banned by another mod, I never interfere with that
7/17/2007 12:52:32 PM Toonsmania Fred as you can see now that ecurrencyphd was callng me scammer ..so what do you have for him ?
7/17/2007 12:52:33 PM Toonsmania Fred
7/17/2007 12:53:26 PM Fred Toonsmania nothing. You made him angry due to your lack of professionalism. He partly had you banned. I think you both are even
7/17/2007 12:53:26 PM Toonsmania Fred can you also ban him for his filthy language as well ?
7/17/2007 12:53:40 PM Fred Toonsmania no I won't. I understand his frustration
7/17/2007 12:53:52 PM Toonsmania Fred you are missing part again
7/17/2007 12:53:56 PM Toonsmania Fred
7/17/2007 12:54:00 PM Toonsmania Fred he used my card
7/17/2007 12:54:05 PM Toonsmania Fred he said it didnt work
7/17/2007 12:54:09 PM Toonsmania Fred he first called names
7/17/2007 12:54:15 PM Toonsmania Fred and he goes free ?
7/17/2007 12:54:27 PM Fred Toonsmania you made a mistake to him as well
7/17/2007 12:54:39 PM Toonsmania Fred if you take little pain then you will see that he was the first to strat calling names
7/17/2007 12:54:43 PM Toonsmania Fred what mistake ?
7/17/2007 12:54:49 PM Toonsmania Fred you can clear now ?
7/17/2007 12:54:54 PM Fred Toonsmania not answering his mails
7/17/2007 12:55:15 PM Toonsmania Fred he is lying about it just as he did about card
7/17/2007 12:55:22 PM Toonsmania Fred i answered all his emails
7/17/2007 12:55:43 PM Fred Toonsmania I have no prove of that, he also said that you were rude...
7/17/2007 12:56:00 PM Fred Toonsmania either way, something not so good happened between the 2 of you
7/17/2007 12:57:19 PM Toonsmania Fred yes as u admit that you have no proove of weather i answered him or not so lets talk about other points
7/17/2007 12:57:24 PM Toonsmania Fred that are obvious ?
7/17/2007 12:57:29 PM Toonsmania Fred like he used card
7/17/2007 12:57:32 PM Toonsmania Fred got refund
7/17/2007 12:57:39 PM Toonsmania Fred and called names first ?
7/17/2007 12:57:51 PM Toonsmania Fred may be a warning will be good
7/17/2007 12:57:55 PM Toonsmania Fred if not a ban
7/17/2007 12:58:29 PM Fred Toonsmania yes, for example the many customers of yours that were defending you like crazy for example... you know, other mods in the team found that really suspicious
7/17/2007 12:58:47 PM Toonsmania Fred lool
7/17/2007 12:58:55 PM Fred Toonsmania also in pm. It was a bit too much ...
7/17/2007 12:59:11 PM Toonsmania Fred yep casue they are happy with me like no other ;-D
7/17/2007 1:01:33 PM Fred Toonsmania 2 of the senior mods said 'no' and I was going to find out the truth before I unbanned you
7/17/2007 1:01:33 PM Fred Toonsmania so you can thank them, especially Don
7/17/2007 1:01:38 PM Fred Toonsmania not sure if you have been able to read my last few lines?
7/17/2007 1:03:37 PM Toonsmania Fred sorry got d/c
7/17/2007 1:03:43 PM Fred Toonsmania ok
7/17/2007 1:04:01 PM Fred Toonsmania I assure you that you didn't get unbanned because these members were doing this, otherwise Brian or Geoff would have unbanned you much earlier Fred says: 2 of the senior mods said 'no' and I was going to find out the truth before I unbanned you Fred says: so you can thank them, especially Don Fred says:
7/17/2007 1:04:18 PM Toonsmania Fred 2 mods said no ?
7/17/2007 1:04:23 PM Fred Toonsmania yes
7/17/2007 1:04:35 PM Toonsmania Fred not to lift my ban ?
7/17/2007 1:04:47 PM Fred Toonsmania your case was way too suspicious to just release you like that
7/17/2007 1:05:06 PM Toonsmania Fred i guess those mods were bribed
7/17/2007 1:05:13 PM Toonsmania Fred also they don deserve to be mod
7/17/2007 1:05:23 PM Toonsmania Fred if they cant give a chance to old member
7/17/2007 1:05:39 PM Fred Toonsmania you have to understand that we care about the membership and there was at that time too much doubt. I still think it was the right decision
7/17/2007 1:05:58 PM Toonsmania Fred but u are wrong now
7/17/2007 1:06:03 PM Toonsmania Fred anyway all i m saying is
7/17/2007 1:06:08 PM Fred Toonsmania they were not bribed, they are the most honest people I know online
7/17/2007 1:06:10 PM Toonsmania Fred that one must be given chance to defend
7/17/2007 1:06:31 PM Fred Toonsmania well, we will have to agree that we disagree
7/17/2007 1:06:36 PM Toonsmania Fred and i wastn gven at early untill i had crazy support from my customer
7/17/2007 1:06:58 PM Toonsmania Fred i like my pic as well
7/17/2007 1:07:00 PM Fred Toonsmania well the crazy support had an opposite effect
7/17/2007 1:07:06 PM Toonsmania Fred it gives my mafia look
7/17/2007 1:07:17 PM Toonsmania Fred me*
7/17/2007 1:08:16 PM Toonsmania Fred anyway it must be a lesson to those who become ignorantods) and think that they are alway right
7/17/2007 1:08:23 PM Toonsmania Fred .
7/17/2007 1:08:40 PM Toonsmania Fred i mean especially to mods who fell that way
7/17/2007 1:09:04 PM Fred Toonsmania see it as a precautionairy meassure, I also fell that way
7/17/2007 1:09:06 PM Toonsmania Fred i did'nt care much about sales
7/17/2007 1:09:29 PM Toonsmania Fred i wasnt simply going away with scammer reward
7/17/2007 1:09:46 PM Toonsmania Fred i have seen 10s of seller going that way
7/17/2007 1:10:05 PM Toonsmania Fred i have recieved even single payments of 1000 usd and around
7/17/2007 1:10:19 PM Toonsmania Fred i cud have scammed at that time but it is simply not on my mind
7/17/2007 1:10:33 PM Fred Toonsmania that's good
7/17/2007 1:10:56 PM Fred Toonsmania but there was (and still is) no way for me to know that for sure
7/17/2007 1:11:20 PM Toonsmania Fred besides we really need good mod like you ( which i really doubt )
7/17/2007 1:11:39 PM Toonsmania Fred anyway u can get to know about someone only if you talk to them
7/17/2007 1:11:45 PM Toonsmania Fred or hear them
7/17/2007 1:12:02 PM Toonsmania Fred face reading is not always succefull ;D
7/17/2007 1:12:06 PM Fred Toonsmania you only get an impression of that person
7/17/2007 1:13:44 PM Toonsmania Fred ok good fred...i have talked to you as well and i feel that you are fairly good as well ..so sure i will bring in notice any problem i have with forum
7/17/2007 1:13:50 PM Toonsmania Fred pluggy was my favourite
7/17/2007 1:14:04 PM Toonsmania Fred but oh well he too was dragged in bs
7/17/2007 1:14:47 PM Fred Toonsmania yeah Pluggy was some guy. We did not always agree but an honest fellow.
7/17/2007 1:15:35 PM Fred Toonsmania ok 'Toonsmania', whatever your name is. I have to go, had a long day and I'd like to sleep now, even if it's 9.45am here
7/17/2007 1:15:58 PM Toonsmania Fred hehe ok good night i too have to do some pvp at wow
7/17/2007 1:16:07 PM Toonsmania Fred bye for now
7/17/2007 1:16:12 PM Fred Toonsmania bye bye
So that is all.
Fred mentioned that there are 2 mods who simply don want me to get back ( I call those mods retards)But he (fred/me222) insisted that he would like to know the truth. And i m glad that he insisted....if a mod cant be open then he/she doesn't deserve to be a mod.
Once again big thanks to my fellas
booooooya i m back.....thanks to my customers/friends...
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