[aboutperfectmoney]

Perfectmoney advertises beeing a SWISS company. The famous Swiss red cross on their banners, the "Swiss company" words in their emails, etc.

On their website, Switzerland has gone, and they claim to be a financial company registered in... Panama!

https://perfectmoney.com/contact.html

Perfect Money Finance Corp.
Republic of Panama
Company No. 596918
License No. 1267339-1-596918-2008-105548
Edif. Neptuno, Local #7
Via Ricardo J Alfaro, Tumba Muerto
Ciudad de Panamá
República de Panamá
Tel: +(507) 202-1553
Fax: +(507) 996-3177

At those numbers, nobody replies, is it a surprise?

The truth is not here

Perfect Money Finance Corp is a MOSCOW (Russia) registered company, legal address Avenue Lenin (Leninski prospekt), number 1 and... See below!

A copy of the certificate of incorporation will be available very soon and available to all, and you will be very surprised to see who are the REAL directors of Perfectmoney!

As a FORMER perfectmoney client I received a bank transfer from them of a few thousands bucks. When I saw that the sender's bank ws in Cyprus I fell strange. Why a Swiss company would use a Cyprus account and not a Swiss account? So I decided to ask my bank the SWIFT message (Ref. MT103) that shows the full details of the transaction. I received the reply from my bank yesterday and then BIG SURPRISE:

As I already knew, Perfectmoney sends their payments not from Switzerland, not from Panama, but from Cyprus.


15/06/2009 14:11 SWIFT MESSAGE PRINT

MT 103 Single Customer Credit Transfer MESSAGE ID: 091XXXXXXXXXX
MOR: 090529XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX TIME RECD: 05:15 OSN: XXXXXX
MIR: 090529CITIUS33XXXXXXXXXXXXXX TIME SENT: 09:15 PRTY: N

FROM: CITIBANK N.A.
NEW YORK,NY

108 MUR of Header of Original Message:
09529XXXXXXXXXXX
20 Sender's Reference:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
23B Bank Operation Code:
CRED
32A Value Date/CCY/InterbankSettled Amt:
090529USDXXXXXX,
33B Currency/Instructed Amount:
USDXXXXXXX,
50K Ordering Customer:
/CY02005002400002400781226901
PERFECT MONEY FINANCE CORP.
1 LENINSKIY PROSPECT
119049 OFFICE 1309,
MOSCOW, RUSSIA
52A Ordering Institution:
HELLENIC BANK PUBLIC COMPANY LTD.
NICOSIA (LEFKOSIA)
HEBACY2NHDO
59 Beneficiary Customer:
/XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
70 Remittance Information:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
71A Details of Charges:
SHA

**** END OF MESSAGE ***=

Have hidden some details as I don't want to become a target from this russian perfectmafia

So the bank is HELLENIC BANK PUBLIC COMPANY LTD. (SWIFT HEBACY2NHDO), in Cyprus too. There, the Perfectmoney account is CY02005002400002400781226901.

The account name is
PERFECT MONEY FINANCE CORP.
1 LENINSKIY PROSPECT
119049 OFFICE 1309,
MOSCOW, RUSSIA

Hey, OFFICE 1309!!!

Now look at www.trainex.ru on their home page at the top, and look at their address.

Yes, Perfectmoney and Trainex, are the same guys.

No problem IN THEORY. But in practice, WHY does perfectmoney HIDE this information? Why does Perfectmoney says they are a Panama licensed financial company but using a Russian company for their financial transactions?

The Hellenic bank in Cyprus has been contacted and was VERY interested by these details, they were even a bit shocked after seing the website of perfectmoney. Probably they will take the decision to kick the a$$$ of these liars that run Perfectmoney! When they knew that Perfectmoney was kicked away by LAIKI bank in Cyprus for illegal transactions, they were even more interested...

So, you know now where you put your money if you are brave enough to use Perfectmoney. Perfect scammers, rather Time for everybody to move their Perfectmoney to LR, ECU, or even Webmoney, Russian but on the market since more than 10 years!

[druidsongs]

you know ? everything you mentioned made me feel safer.
I trust trainex this is the only thing that gives extra trust to PerfectMoney

[cuore]

Perfectmoney - Trainex: SAME RUSSIAN SCAMMERS

Did Trainex scam anybody? I believe no.
Didn't you receive your "few thousands bucks" from PM? Did PM scam you?
Why do you call them scammers?
Russian does not mean scam, you know?

I don't care if they are Swiss (they never claim to be a Swiss company besides the red cross on their old banners), Panama or Russian company. This does not really make any big difference.

[CashCambist]

Although it is interesting if what you say is true, what is wrong with incorporating in Panama, having an address in Switzerland, operating from Russia and banking in Cyrpus?

Also I know that the Trainex people are not scammers.

[LRLovesMe]

trainex seems ok , perfect money is not a scam , yet....although ur findings are interesting , there were a lot of people knowing this on the board.... either way , good job detective

[FreshLook]

My personal opinion on PM aside, it is worth mentioning that you, aboutperfectmoney, are a complete IDIOT, alone with your FAKE info, posted here.
You are immaturely and very (VERY!) annoyingly stubborn. You don't take hints, warnings and suggestions.
It now appears that you haven't gotten the SLIGHTEST clue about how things work and what you are up against. Your activity, has now began to irreversibly destroy your goal.

Don't take all this as an offense, but make an effort and try to think, but most importantly, take a freaking break, ok?!!!

P.S. PM has never claimed to be SWISS-based, but SWISS-Style, so, just shut the fluck up on that, you moron.

[hyips-r-us]

Originally Posted by FreshLook

...alone with your FAKE info, posted here.[/b]

Yet it doesn't proof any kind of scam, the info might be quite accurate and proofable for anyone doing banking business with them.
Like exchangers, for instance:
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=108

so, personally I'd count that info for the "fact" side this time, but everyone has to draw his own conclusions out of it, as always

[Tdinoz]

Is it a full moon somewhere? Or can we look forward to morning coffee accompanied by a run of new threads titled something like,

I have had a successful order finalised with XY OR Z website BUT

[neversay]

I would be surprise to see anyone buying such information from someone with only 1 post?

[hyips-r-us]

Originally Posted by neversay

I would be surprise to see anyone buying such information from someone with only 1 post?

nothing that you have to "buy" in his thread so far... if it's a proven fact, then it's a fact, not a rumor...

...a very big fees for processing, it is not scam!!!

No scam, but still lacking usefullness... and furthermore, they could have done it WITHOUT that big fees, no problem! Nice try, but done wrong...

Looks like they are pushing all they got in the market now, to calm down the waves and getting back some customers... No wonder, just check the reservers of the instant exchanging services, they all get flooded with PM at the moment, due to more or less proven rumors. Seems like people nowadays want to be more safe than sorry.

Quite understandable due to recent events...