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Old 09-01-2009, 12:35 PM
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Default GoldPoll - Not Fair Ratings?

When rating website (GoldPoll) sells something to those listing on the monitor (HYIPs), do you think that the owners of this rating site (Shark, Jeffpoll) will have a natural tendency to move up those programs who pay them huge extra for ddos protection?

Having direct interest in such sales (obviously, or else, they wouldn't do it), do you think that GoldPoll will under-rate otherwise good programs, forcing them to order the goldpoll umbrella?

Is it fair?
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: GoldPoll - Not Fair Ratings?

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When rating website (GoldPoll) sells something to those listing on the monitor (HYIPs), do you think that the owners of this rating site (Shark, Jeffpoll) will have a natural tendency to move up those programs who pay them huge extra for ddos protection?

Having direct interest in such sales (obviously, or else, they wouldn't do it), do you think that GoldPoll will under-rate otherwise good programs, forcing them to order the goldpoll umbrella?

Is it fair?
I just want to add a small remark to your post - Goldpoll doesn't force any one to buy a DDoS protection service from us. It's just another service that is being represented by our team. You can use it or not, it's up to you.

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Old 09-01-2009, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: GoldPoll - Not Fair Ratings?

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When rating website (GoldPoll) sells something to those listing on the monitor (HYIPs), do you think that the owners of this rating site (Shark, Jeffpoll) will have a natural tendency to move up those programs who pay them huge extra for ddos protection?

Having direct interest in such sales (obviously, or else, they wouldn't do it), do you think that GoldPoll will under-rate otherwise good programs, forcing them to order the goldpoll umbrella?

Is it fair?
You ask a question about whether it is being done in the first place which assumes you are awaiting some answers, then answer your own question by asking `Is it fair?`
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:12 PM
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Jeffpoll,
You know perfectly well that "forcing" was an implication word there. Drop it if you wish.

Here is relevant, live example to comment though:
Pirexfund is among top programs on your list and it has no goldpoll umbrella. Pirexfund.com had some troubles loading some time during Friday, but you kept it under problem status through the whole weekend, up until a few hours ago from right now.

Would you dare to do the same to any of the HYIPs "under goldpoll umbrella"?

Do you see where the word "forcing" comes from?
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You can use it or not, it's up to you.
Me?
Investors have no saying or use on this service whatsoever, aren't they?
This service (whatever it is worth) is exclusively for HYIP admins, to whom you are giving extra credit:
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Each program has several variables or rates such as "admin rate", "monitoring", "program status", "funds return" and many other.
Let me explain it on this example. One program has a DDoS protection icon, it means that the rate (DDoS protected) is active. Another program doesn't use this service and such rate isn't active. Let's presume that their other rates are similar or the same, but during the script calculation the program without the active ddos rate will get a lower result, because of a lack of the variable.
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DDoS protection or site uptime is just one factor regarding to the goldpoll rating, and in any case not the main one.
You both confirmed that YOUR ddos protection (and NOT that of ANYBODY else) is a positive rating factor on your monitor. Also, the example with Pirexfund above, strongly suggests that you rate NEGATIVELY websites protected by other anti-ddos services.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:47 PM
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Pirexfund.com had some troubles loading some time during Friday, but you kept it under problem status through the whole weekend, up until a few hours ago from right now.
First of all, PirexFund was marked with the "Waiting" status, which meaning is far away from the "problem".

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You both confirmed that YOUR ddos protection (and NOT that of ANYBODY else) is a positive rating factor on your monitor. Also, the example with Pirexfund above, strongly suggests that you rate NEGATIVELY websites protected by other anti-ddos services.
My example was an ideal case, in reality the situation where 2 or more HYIPs have the same parameters in our rating is almost impossible. Why do you think that the umbrella icon gives an extra bonuses for HYIPs? According to your logic, all the websites with this icon should be moved to our TOP positions, but we don't use such strategy in the rating. Member's feedbacks, stability of payments are the main factors to rate HYIPs.

Hope that all unjust accusations regarding any position will be stopped.

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Old 09-02-2009, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: GoldPoll - Not Fair Ratings?

Overall goldpoll is the best monitor.
There is hardly any other monitor which changes the program status based on 1 complaint verification.

Many monitors like hyip.com have already sold their soul for money and care only about money.
But when it comes to declaring the program problem status, goldpoll is the one to trust upon.

That is why I check only 3 positions to check any program status, goldpoll, allworldhyip and talkgold
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: GoldPoll - Not Fair Ratings?

Im agree with Goldpoll answer.
Goldpoll is one of best & old site in this industry.about umbrella sign, its included with ddos protection service of his site.and its optical service.there is no different with programs which get ddos protection with other for ranking in monitor listing.
anyway hope Goldpoll continue to his perfect activity in his site.
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:06 AM
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Yes goldpoll rateing services it one of the best hyip montiors.
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:54 PM
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Looks like there is conflict of interest within Goldpoll itself which only favors its own pirated anti ddos solution and gives fake negative problem status to other anti ddos competitors' website (I have seen myself and save the rate us page of 1 HYIP that also listed on Goldpoll, all the other monitor logos in this program rate us show paying but only Goldpoll logo shows problem with its non appearing images) and even more there is accusation from former provider anti ddos that Goldpoll stole their anti ddos software and left them.

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For a long time goldpoll has used our services, we've always considered them to be good partners, but by the beginning of a new payment period for their protected ip pool - they've suddenly disappeared. They don't answer in skype, via email, we can't phone them - they've moved all the clients somewhere without just a single explanation or excuse (and, surely, payment for the previous period).
Let's go on. We've looked up the ip addresses where current clients are situated - in the Ukranian Datacenter! The investigation also showed that they use an old version of our ddos-protection sofware, _stolen_ software. But the defense with the help of only this software is a total scam! Firstly, it would protect only for a few number of http-flood attacks, secondly they don't have a development team for this project (well and even this little piece of software has suffered immense changes, it's not relevant for the current botnets). So if they tell you that you suffer a heavy attack, don't believe a single word - they simply don't have a development team to improve this product in case it's necessary.
The true colors of Goldpoll has been shown with the above statement from former antiddos provider of Goldpoll. This clearly shows that Goldpoll is nothing different from HYIP scammer admin with many multi facets conflict of interest, pushing hyips listed on its site to use their high priced pirated anti ddos solution and blacklisted other hyips which use other anti ddos hosting with problem status. So my advice boycott Goldpoll as long as it is still has conflict of interest like this because Goldpoll's admins are more interested to get big money from its pirated anti ddos solution than from tiring jobs of monitoring hyip with small listing fees.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:34 PM
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Looks like there is conflict of interest within Goldpoll itself which only favors its own pirated anti ddos solution and gives fake negative problem status to other anti ddos competitors' website (I have seen myself and save the rate us page of 1 HYIP that also listed on Goldpoll, all the other monitor logos in this program rate us show paying but only Goldpoll logo shows problem with its non appearing images) and even more there is accusation from former provider anti ddos that Goldpoll stole their anti ddos software and left them.



The true colors of Goldpoll has been shown with the above statement from former antiddos provider of Goldpoll. This clearly shows that Goldpoll is nothing different from HYIP scammer admin with many multi facets conflict of interest, pushing hyips listed on its site to use their high priced pirated anti ddos solution and blacklisted other hyips which use other anti ddos hosting with problem status. So my advice boycott Goldpoll as long as it is still has conflict of interest like this because Goldpoll's admins are more interested to get big money from its pirated anti ddos solution than from tiring jobs of monitoring hyip with small listing fees.
Look here, hyipcreator. First of all your nickname says for itself that it's you scammer admin.

Second, there is no other hyip focused website like goldpoll with NO ads and that sort of bs all over. They act immediately and really take care of their visitors. They resell antiddos hosting like dozens of companies do and it seems they are firmly sure that it works, so they can put additional marks to progs which appear to be under protection which in fact means they are ddos protected.

And third, they earn money by means which are more than fair in comparison with any other hyip site over net and you in particular, who helps scammers do their job technically.

so please would you be so kind to shut up
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