Im curious ...

[wash]

For all of you who are awaiting payouts and refunds, just how do you think that is going to happen?

Charis keeps saying she is still online because she is credible and she is fighting for all of you. Why do you all so easily assume charis speaking of God puts her as some sort of saviour? Why do some of you so easily believe that when this whole thing has passed that she is just going to mail millions of dollars back to thousands of members around the world and then......then what?

Just be happy and at peace with herself cuz she paid off what she felt she owed? She doesnt feel she owes anyone, she keeps saying this people remember that. If she says this now, what do you think she is going to say in the end if she gets her funds back from stormpay? Thankyou all so much for sticking by me, please line up for your money? Come on now.

The only way refunds and payouts will ever occur is 1 of two ways. She is made to do so by the government or she will start up her site or a new one and have *stipulations* to get your monies returned. Say new upgrades perhaps and the back money paid out lil by lil over time. Some of you may say this would be great. But you forget how many problems you and I have already gone thru with 12daily. The constant missing upgrades, no egold payments, no answers to tickets or calls, delay delay delay. Have any of you wondered lately if this whole thing, regardless of the profits you may have made was just not worth all the heartache and weariness it has caused you?

The bottom line here is we all want the money back, and she doesnt want to part with it. And the kicker, at this point, she doesnt have to either.

At this point people there is nothing legally that says she has to return a thing. And the only way she will be is if she is forced to or if she has a new way to generate money to make up for the losses of revenue , with you participating with new upgrades of course. Not a single refund or payout will be because she is thinking of you or because she is trying to be fair and credible. That would be bad business, Charis didnt start this whole adventure to just give money away out of the goodness of her heart. It will only be given back if there is a new way for you as a refundee to participate in a new program to EARN it back by putting in new money or by force from another entity.

So for all of you who so blindly read into Her * You are all my family* * I love you all * * We are a team* You are being misled. Love and family are not what was on her mind when she created 12daily. Nor was it on our minds when we joined and profited. Its money.

I gotta admit, its been kinda nice not coming home from work with my heart in my throat wondering if 12dailys website was even still there, or wondering if my upgrade would post ok , or my cashout would get here on time. The last week Ive re-discovered the dignity in really earning and working for a paycheck.

If I get a refund so be it. I will take that sucker and have me some steak and taters and celebrate. But my biggest celebration will not be having to go through all this crap anymore. Charis can kiss my ass.

[m3at]

Originally Posted by wash

For all of you who are awaiting payouts and refunds, just how do you think that is going to happen?

Charis keeps saying she is still online because she is credible and she is fighting for all of you. Why do you all so easily assume charis speaking of God puts her as some sort of saviour? Why do some of you so easily believe that when this whole thing has passed that she is just going to mail millions of dollars back to thousands of members around the world and then......then what?

Just be happy and at peace with herself cuz she paid off what she felt she owed? She doesnt feel she owes anyone, she keeps saying this people remember that. If she says this now, what do you think she is going to say in the end if she gets her funds back from stormpay? Thankyou all so much for sticking by me, please line up for your money? Come on now.

The only way refunds and payouts will ever occur is 1 of two ways. She is made to do so by the government or she will start up her site or a new one and have *stipulations* to get your monies returned. Say new upgrades perhaps and the back money paid out lil by lil over time. Some of you may say this would be great. But you forget how many problems you and I have already gone thru with 12daily. The constant missing upgrades, no egold payments, no answers to tickets or calls, delay delay delay. Have any of you wondered lately if this whole thing, regardless of the profits you may have made was just not worth all the heartache and weariness it has caused you?

The bottom line here is we all want the money back, and she doesnt want to part with it. And the kicker, at this point, she doesnt have to either.

At this point people there is nothing legally that says she has to return a thing. And the only way she will be is if she is forced to or if she has a new way to generate money to make up for the losses of revenue , with you participating with new upgrades of course. Not a single refund or payout will be because she is thinking of you or because she is trying to be fair and credible. That would be bad business, Charis didnt start this whole adventure to just give money away out of the goodness of her heart. It will only be given back if there is a new way for you as a refundee to participate in a new program to EARN it back by putting in new money or by force from another entity.

So for all of you who so blindly read into Her * You are all my family* * I love you all * * We are a team* You are being misled. Love and family are not what was on her mind when she created 12daily. Nor was it on our minds when we joined and profited. Its money.

I gotta admit, its been kinda nice not coming home from work with my heart in my throat wondering if 12dailys website was even still there, or wondering if my upgrade would post ok , or my cashout would get here on time. The last week Ive re-discovered the dignity in really earning and working for a paycheck.

If I get a refund so be it. I will take that sucker and have me some steak and taters and celebrate. But my biggest celebration will not be having to go through all this crap anymore. Charis can kiss my ass.

Awesome post. I agree full heartedly!

[shaunewd]

Good post we were blinded by the light. Lets hope we get the refunds, money is still money.