How does this 'news' even make sense?

[FedByBryan]

Paid out of a new trading platform?

Huh?

'Splain, please?

Whatever this new 'trading platform' is, how exactly do we get the money?

I mean, how do you get paid out of a platform?

Doesn't the money (sic) have to go through a bank at some point?

And wasn't the problem that the evil banks are trying to keep us down?

Is getting paid out of a platform, however that works, compliant with international and national money transfer laws?

I thought we were supposed to get paid out of the new bank? Now it's the new platform? What, exactly is the mechanism for getting paid out of a platform?

Are we all supposed to worry about how this new platform is being messed up by people abusing it, or hassle from governements that want to hurt PIPS or something, and not think about how we are being screwed by BM?


And lastly, here's what I want to know:

Who, exactly, leaked this information to HYIP? I suspect BigMan himself, or a close associate, in order for us to hear it from a 3rd party. Then we wait for a while and when it doesn't happen everyone is all "we didn't tell you there was a platform. who said there was a new platform?"

If you've read Cialdini, and everyone should, and/or Leiberman, and if you are in sales or other forms of business and haven't read these works you have not done your basic homework, you know about the power of a third party influence on the target of your persuasion. This is classic stuff he's pulling here.

And it smells like dogsh*t, just like all the rest of the CRAP coming out of PIPS for the past 8 months.

[pipselvis]

You certainly have a lot of questions. I used to like it when one of my teachers would ask a question that I knew the answer to. It was a great feeling when she would ask, "Class what is the hypotenuse of this triangle?"

I would excitedly wave my hand in the air - ooh - ooh... Then she would say, "Yes PipsElvis, do you know the answer?"

"It is the side of a right-angled triangle opposite the right angle!"

"Yes, PipsElvis, that's exactly right, now please sit down and don't perform anymore Karate moves until recess."

Anyway that question is a lot easier than all of the ones you've asked. I'll make some phone calls and see if we can find some people who can help you.

[transparent]

paying out of the new trading platform probably means skipping picpay - this does of course not help with anything that the problems were supposedly with(banks etc - however, bryan never claimed that banks refused to do business with them because of them appearing like a fraud, bryan just claimed they couldn't handle the volume and kept refusing to make transfers). Requesting a wd worked before - that's all the new trading platform would be good for.


why was picpay even introduced? to play time. it would have been so easy to do it right if they had the money and will to pay.


now could please the people who claim to have inside knoweledge(when you don't) and experience in issues pips is dealing with just shut up? you don't have experience with it, or with any programs like it that weren't fraud. IF YOU HAD YOU WOULD BE BILLIONAIRES and the guys running them would be the richest persons on earth, clean and simple. If you claim you have been in a program that pays as well as pips(including having the supposed longevity and _consistent returns_) then that's what youre claiming - that you already have billions. making 2% on a given day is possible sure - BUT ONLY ON ONE DAY and even then only with small enough sums, pips is claiming it would be able to trade petallions of dollars worth of magic substance X and make a profit. even if pips premiere makes a billion dollars over 5 years.. that's just enough to pay 1 guy, not 200 000+.



let's be honest: pips does appear like a scam to any professional invester - payment problems, shady licensing, shady excuses, hidden investments, getting caught in lies...


when pips doesn't have gold in australia(in _their_ holding facilities) it means that pips is a fraud - no other reasoning needed!

[FedByBryan]

So...they are putting in a new platform to bypass their own PicPay, their own payment system?

Again, how does that even make sense?

[realinvest]

Originally Posted by FedByBryan

So...they are putting in a new platform to bypass their own PicPay, their own payment system?

Again, how does that even make sense?

Picpay funds the platform. PIPS members signup for individual accounts within the platform. According to instructions from Picpay the platform then fund each individual account. Then that member can decide which WD method they want to use. It could be funding a debit card, wire, or even a direct deposit to your bank account. The individual accounts go through a bank and so hopefully do not raise any eyebrows with the banking institutions.

The way PIPS was trying to do it, was have one big account with a bank and send out 100's and even 1000's of wires and checks from that one account. The banks won't go for that, as it raises too many concerns of money laundering and a bank could be fine millions of dollars if they were found to be aiding a money laundering operation. The wire fees that the bank charges are just not enough for them to take a chance on incurring a big fine and even losing their license to bank.

Hope this helps?

[punkyg]

Originally Posted by realinvest

Picpay funds the platform. PIPS members signup for individual accounts within the platform. According to instructions from Picpay the platform then fund each individual account. Then that member can decide which WD method they want to use. It could be funding a debit card, wire, or even a direct deposit to your bank account. The individual accounts go through a bank and so hopefully do not raise any eyebrows with the banking institutions.

The way PIPS was trying to do it, was have one big account with a bank and send out 100's and even 1000's of wires and checks from that one account. The banks won't go for that, as it raises too many concerns of money laundering and a bank could be fine millions of dollars if they were found to be aiding a money laundering operation. The wire fees that the bank charges are just not enough for them to take a chance on incurring a big fine and even losing their license to bank.

Hope this helps?

Good explanation realinvest, now let's hope that at least some here can process this.

[ym]

Originally Posted by realinvest

Picpay funds the platform. PIPS members signup for individual accounts within the platform. According to instructions from Picpay the platform then fund each individual account. Then that member can decide which WD method they want to use. It could be funding a debit card, wire, or even a direct deposit to your bank account. The individual accounts go through a bank and so hopefully do not raise any eyebrows with the banking institutions.

The way PIPS was trying to do it, was have one big account with a bank and send out 100's and even 1000's of wires and checks from that one account. The banks won't go for that, as it raises too many concerns of money laundering and a bank could be fine millions of dollars if they were found to be aiding a money laundering operation. The wire fees that the bank charges are just not enough for them to take a chance on incurring a big fine and even losing their license to bank.

Hope this helps?

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Now it is very clear to me. Thank you very much for your kind explanation.

[Almostgotscammed]

Originally Posted by realinvest

Picpay funds the platform. PIPS members signup for individual accounts within the platform. According to instructions from Picpay the platform then fund each individual account. Then that member can decide which WD method they want to use. It could be funding a debit card, wire, or even a direct deposit to your bank account. The individual accounts go through a bank and so hopefully do not raise any eyebrows with the banking institutions.

The way PIPS was trying to do it, was have one big account with a bank and send out 100's and even 1000's of wires and checks from that one account. The banks won't go for that, as it raises too many concerns of money laundering and a bank could be fine millions of dollars if they were found to be aiding a money laundering operation. The wire fees that the bank charges are just not enough for them to take a chance on incurring a big fine and even losing their license to bank.

Hope this helps?

Yes Punky, I can process it. Its even an explanation that has truth to it. Bottom line, who cares? Noone wants rumors of how this will happen. Make it happen already. Almost month 8 now, and we have rumors. Make it fact and Ill be mildly impressed. Catch up with the WDs and Ill be real impressed. This is the only thing anyone should be willing to accept.

Why even bother with the speculation? Been lots of that going around, and none of it has amounted to anything.

[punkyg]

Originally Posted by Almostgotscammed

Yes Punky, I can process it. Its even an explanation that has truth to it. Bottom line, who cares?

What with your obvious lack of intelligence, no one would expect you to care about anything.

Noone wants rumors of how this will happen. Make it happen already. Almost month 8 now, and we have rumors. Make it fact and Ill be mildly impressed.

Quite frankly, I don't think that anyone gives a damn whether you are impressed or not.

Catch up with the WDs and Ill be real impressed. This is the only thing anyone should be willing to accept.

Why even bother with the speculation? Been lots of that going around, and none of it has amounted to anything.

Have a nice day.

Or as awty would say....."That's my opinion"

[mavic]

Originally Posted by punkyg

Have a nice day.

Or as awty would say....."That's my opinion"

***** wheres my money hoe