[ojamali]

I am still surprised that people think they can get rich overnight by just investing $ here and $ there in internet schemes. I know, some time ago it was a novelty, but now, everyone knows that there is no money without some kind of business plan, good product, trading currencies and stocks (which is also work) etc. Surfing etc. really doesn't make any money. And in addition, when they go out of business...that's it.

[kevinchu]

Well said.

[tzyzhing]

So... whats the point of this thread

[goldie2]

Most people just want to make money the lazy way.

They look for the easy way out.

HYIP is no different than the stock market.

RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!

You need to do research on HYIP's.

Can you make money with HYIP? Better believe it. You can make a lot of damn money.\Is it easy? No way.
You'll take your lumps but anyone thinking they can make a million overnight is just asking toget ripped off.
But can you make 100-350K per year on HYIP. Absolutely.

[Vontrust]

Originally Posted by tzyzhing

So... whats the point of this thread

A disgruntled investors take on the arena

[syndicate]

What about if I will buy a ticket an win on a lottery :] ... then I would make millions over night. So it is possible?
:lol:
I could stop my self, but I didn't want to.

[shipdit]

Originally Posted by goldie2

HYIP is no different than the stock market.

I beg to differ with you. The stock market is composed of publicly held corporations for whom audited financial results and corporate addresses and phone numbers are readily available through regulated channels. "HYIP" is punks hiding behind the anonymity of an internet connection pretending that they are engaged in some business.

Originally Posted by goldie2

But can you make 100-350K per year on HYIP. Absolutely.

...Absolutely not. Anyone with experience in this circus knows that the "investors" who are stupid enough to send serious money off to these scammers are the first to get ripped off. "Admins" know that 100 ten-dollar investors gleefully posting "I GOT PAID!!!", drown out the protests of the one guy dumb enough to send in $1,000 who didn't get a thing.

In a few of the internet's most notorious, huge, long-lived Ponzi schemes there are always a few "winners" that walk away with ten, fifty, even $75-80,000 ..... but it is kind of hard to turn that into a consistent "100-350k" per year income when everyone seems to agree that "99% of these programs are SCAMS", right?

SD

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[goldie2]

to differ with you. The stock market is composed of publicly held corporations for whom audited financial results and corporate addresses and phone numbers are readily available through regulated channels. "HYIP" is punks hiding behind the anonymity of an internet connection pretending that they are engaged in some business.

Absolute nonsense. The first year of HYIP I made 25,000 after losses. SInce then I have never, EVER made less than 100K.

The stock market thingie you speak of you should really explain your point of view to those who lost their life savings and more to Enron, Bre X and another 1,000,000 stock scams. I won't even dignify your nonsense by going through the millions of companies that exaggerate financial data etc.

.Absolutely not. Anyone with experience in this circus knows that the "investors" who are stupid enough to send serious money off to these scammers are the first to get ripped off. "Admins" know that 100 ten-dollar investors gleefully posting "I GOT PAID!!!", drown out the protests of the one guy dumb enough to send in $1,000 who didn't get a thing.

Again absolute garbage. I have consistently made money on HYIP's. I went from working 70+ hours a week to working 25 hours a week . I don't have to work due to HYIP. Just because you are to inept to make money on hyip doesn't mean anyone else it. For example I have invested 100,000's in FF over the years and have never lost a dime. Even if they go belly up tommorow I still made a profit. It's not rocket science.

In a few of the internet's most notorious, huge, long-lived Ponzi schemes there are always a few "winners" that walk away with ten, fifty, even $75-80,000 ..... but it is kind of hard to turn that into a consistent "100-350k" per year income when everyone seems to agree that "99% of these programs are SCAMS", right?

I can say the same thing about the stock market. If you invested in Nortel and didn't pull out at the right time then you have been ripped off because Roth was fudging the books. It's all about timing. You have none thus cry. I have it thus rejoice.

Yes many are scams but 10% are the real deal. If you do your research you can titl the odds in your favor.
So tell me all these guys making money are liars?
Or are you just jealous that people make money?
And if you think all HYIP's are scams why are you here?
Go invest in the stock market if you have so much confidence in it.

[shipdit]

Originally Posted by goldie2

Absolute nonsense. The first year of HYIP I made 25,000 after losses. SInce then I have never, EVER made less than 100K.

I don't believe you.

Originally Posted by goldie2

The stock market thingie you speak of you should really explain your point of view to those who lost their life savings and more to Enron, Bre X and another 1,000,000 stock scams.

Anyone who had their "life savings and more" invested in one company is a reckless investor who should be prepared to lose everything.

Originally Posted by goldie2

I won't even dignify your nonsense by going through the millions of companies that exaggerate financial data etc.

There are 2,780 companies listed on the New York Stock Exchange and 3,300 companies listed on the NASDAQ market. What "millions of companies that exaggerate financial data" are you referring to?

Originally Posted by goldie2

I have consistently made money on HYIP's. I went from working 70+ hours a week to working 25 hours a week . I don't have to work due to HYIP.

I don't believe you. The vast majority of HYIP scams have favored eGold as money because it is irrevocable; they know that there is no way that anyone can get their money back. Douglas Jackson (the owner of eGold), when asked by Wired Magazine if he was troubled by the large number of eGold transactions that were sending money to Ponzi schemes, said, "These are piddly-ass little things; when you actually run one of these things down, they're pathetic".* You and, um ....HOW many other genius Ponzi-players are making "110k+"?

Originally Posted by goldie2

Just because you are to inept to make money on hyip doesn't mean anyone else it.

I am not "too inept" to make money on HYIP. I am too honest. I do not believe in supporting the criminal enterprises of punks with an internet connection. I am not comfortable being the recipient of money stolen from people who are either slower to play the game or unsophisticated enough to believe the lies that the scammers pitch them.

Originally Posted by goldie2

I have invested 100,000's in FF over the years and have never lost a dime. Even if they go belly up tommorow I still made a profit. It's not rocket science.

If you have any need for whatever amount of money you have "invested" in FeederFund, I recommend that you attempt to get it back. Just remember that any profits you may have are considered the "ill-gotten gains" of a fraudulent enterprise and that you may be asked to return them to the unlucky people they were stolen from. FF is approaching the two-year threshhold that usually representS the outer limits of the lifespan of a well-run Ponzi scheme. That's right. Ponzi scheme. Do you think that their "team of corporate lawyers" will sue me for saying that? No. Do I need to tell you why?

Originally Posted by goldie2

I can say the same thing about the stock market. If you invested in Nortel and didn't pull out at the right time then you have been ripped off because Roth was fudging the books. It's all about timing. You have none thus cry. I have it thus rejoice.

Sorry, I owned virtually no dot-com-bubble stocks because I recognize investor mania when I see it and stay out of the pool. I am not a timing genius.

Originally Posted by goldie2

Yes many are scams but 10% are the real deal. If you do your research you can titl the odds in your favor.

The average investor in the stock market makes about 10% a year. If your statistic of 90% of HYIP being SCAMS is believable, I would guess that the average HYIP "investor" is losing, aren't they? JUST HOW are you "researching" these scams? If you can point me to ONE HYIP where I can knock on the door to talk to someone, or phone them and speak with their attorney, or write them and receive a prospectus or an annual report, I will kiss your grits.

Originally Posted by goldie2

So tell me all these guys making money are liars?

Some are liars, some are paid liars, others just find that forgetting their losers and savoring their winners is a lot more comfortable way to deal with being constantly ripped off by what they are addicted to.

Originally Posted by goldie2

And if you think all HYIP's are scams why are you here?

I am here to try and keep you and the scams that you claim to be making money on from stealing any more money from decent, hard-working people that do not know any better. I also find the psychology behind people harming themselves by doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting a different (positive) result each time fascinating.

Originally Posted by goldie2

Go invest in the stock market if you have so much confidence in it.

I took my first profits in the stock market in 1987 and managed to get to where I have made my living exclusively from stocks since late 1996. I am curious. How did you get to be the poster-boy of Ponzi-scheme success without posting on TalkGold before February 22, 2006?

SD

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*http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1...ic=&topic_set=

[hulkhogan]

Goldie2 if I were you I would just ignore this pathetic , anghry, little jealous man Shipdit.

He's just here to tell everyone how 'stupid' they are and how 'smart' he is.

He's just another welfare case jealous of people who actually make money.

If I thought, for an aota, that HYIP was a scam I would run from this site. This tool wants us to believe he's so altrusitc that he wants to prevent us from losing money? Come on. Find another past time like watching pain dry you pompous fool.