[scarednvestor]

Here is how you can build a ponzi that will last FOREVER!



Lets start with 100 investors.


First 10% investors in the waiting queue are paid daily interest back slowly until they are in profit by the percentage growth during that span a span of a few months. No reinvestments, no multiple accounts, no compounding and a set time that it expires or a set profit limit. Then they must leave the program. Then the next 10 investors get in the queue and regain their money in a profit. Then just keep repeating as more investors come in. Now youll say wait a second what if new investors stop coming in???? WEll unlikely since old investors will want to jump back in line and do it again and do to the non exponential growth needed you will never lose your money because the old investors never will be paid more then what came in previously.


Whadda think?

[Bomber]

Originally Posted by scarednvestor

Here is how you can build a ponzi that will last FOREVER!



Lets start with 100 investors.


First 10% investors in the waiting queue are paid daily interest back slowly until they are in profit by the percentage growth during that span a span of a few months. No reinvestments, no multiple accounts, no compounding and a set time that it expires or a set profit limit. Then they must leave the program. Then the next 10 investors get in the queue and regain their money in a profit. Then just keep repeating as more investors come in. Now youll say wait a second what if new investors stop coming in???? WEll unlikely since old investors will want to jump back in line and do it again and do to the non exponential growth needed you will never lose your money because the old investors never will be paid more then what came in previously.


Whadda think?

You have just proven yourself a clueless clown.

let's look at your plan...

100 people invest $100 to cash out at 10% profit. So 10,000 has been invested and you need 11,000 to cash them out. so another 10 people join and pay 100 each to cash out the original 100... but now you need $1100 in fresh funds to cash them out... so another 11 people put in 100 each to cash them out... but now you need 1210 to cash them out... see where this is going?

The numbers will grow and grow just as in any ponzi... unless you are actually generating the profit to pay the members from some external source (not from new members) then it is doomed to fail and there will be many people lose out.

You are a funny one... you have a go at people for not being smart yet you propose crap like this?

Regards, Dave

[scarednvestor]

Wow before you call names you need to read what i said dufus.

" in profit by the percentage growth during that span"


In other words what the growth was PREVIOUSLY will determine the percent to be paid out while they were getting paid back. If no one new joined then they get their original money back. So if for example 100 people join the program when it starts on day 1 and no one joins after no one gets paid anything except their original money back.


Some other things to also add in is there will be a reserve fund as a "membership fee" for times when growth is up and down instead of consistent, and for administrative fees.

[Bomber]

You are still not making mathematical sense...

You call me a dufus yet you are the one that has said:
"Here is how you can build a ponzi that will last FOREVER!"

Hmmm... your words not mine, but I will humour you and take a look at your latest post.

As I understand it you are saying that the profits are paid out depending on the growth right? So lets say 100 people sign up and then 10 per day forever sign on.

So we have the 100 x 100 deposit (assume everyone deposits 100 for ease of calculation). So we have 10,000 on day one deposited and then there will be 1000 per day deposited due to the 10 new members everyday.

So on day 2 you bring in 1000 in new deposits making the total 11,000... I need to know what percentage you will then pay out to the original members to continue my calculations...

So the questions is, with 10,000 deposited, and 1000 deposited the next day... what can the original 100 members withdraw?

Regards, Dave

[Mad Frankie]

yep, money doesnt grow on trees as they say.. The profit has to come from somewhere.

[HYIP_Surfer]

All ponzis are doomed to eventual failure if you are not actually doing anything to grow the investors funds. Fiddling around with payout eligibility and profit percentages only slows down the amount of time it takes for the plan to fail. The only reason Studiotraffic lasted for so long is because they only had to generate a small number of new investors per day to cover the old investors profits, but no matter how you structure a ponzi, it always fails eventually because sooner or later you end up in a situation where you need too much money coming in to cover the payout requests. Even if you limit the number of people who can cash out at any given time or limit the amount that they can cash out, eventually it all falls apart. All you are doing is delaying the inevitable.

[Clan McGregor]

Originally Posted by scarednvestor

Here is how you can build a ponzi that will last FOREVER!



Lets start with 100 investors.


First 10% investors in the waiting queue are paid daily interest back slowly until they are in profit by the percentage growth during that span a span of a few months. No reinvestments, no multiple accounts, no compounding and a set time that it expires or a set profit limit. Then they must leave the program. Then the next 10 investors get in the queue and regain their money in a profit. Then just keep repeating as more investors come in. Now youll say wait a second what if new investors stop coming in???? WEll unlikely since old investors will want to jump back in line and do it again and do to the non exponential growth needed you will never lose your money because the old investors never will be paid more then what came in previously.


Whadda think?

I think your a crackpot lol. But thank God you changed your Avatar...

[scarednvestor]

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Bomber, I haven't thought through the calculations yet sheesh i just came up with an idea not a plan set in stone. But lets say in theory that we had 10,000 deposited andonly 1000 deposited the next day well that would be too short of a time to calculate. Since the people in line that would first be getting paid would slowly getit back over months the calculation could be very complex. This would be way beyond a goldcoders hyip.

Hyip surfer yes technically in the "end" there will be losses, but unlike a other ponzis it will not require exponential growth since profits are based on the growth so if there is a steady supply of reinvestments or new members it could go on indefinitely. Only when people stop putting money in does it dry up. A classic ponzi as seen on all the scams ehre has no chocie but to rely ona ACCELERATED growth and it becomes mathematically impossible to keep up with the growth after a few cycles. the cycles here could go on indefinitely provied steady but slow members.

[scarednvestor]

Ok let me just say that if something happened and no new investors came on at a steady pace there would be a loss equal to what the first % beforethem got paid out. In other words this would be not like a ponzi where exponential growth is required and is doomed to collapse. just consistent reinvesting or new members without accelerated growth is needed. Unlike allthe ponzis we normally think of which are structured to burn out very quickly due to a pyramid structure this strucutre could make it last hundredsif not thousands of cycles.

[Bomber]

Originally Posted by scarednvestor

Ok let me just say that if something happened and no new investors came on at a steady pace there would be a loss equal to what the first % beforethem got paid out. In other words this would be not like a ponzi where exponential growth is required and is doomed to collapse. just consistent reinvesting or new members without accelerated growth is needed. Unlike allthe ponzis we normally think of which are structured to burn out very quickly due to a pyramid structure this strucutre could make it last hundredsif not thousands of cycles.

I have given you a possible situation where 1000 worth of new money is invested every single day forever... please use that situation to show me how your idea works.

I can save you some time and tell you it doesn't work.

Regards, Dave

P.S. The only other thought is that you have some sort of diminishing returns algorithm floating through your head but the gains would very quickly slide to minute levels that no-one in their right mind would invest to get a possible return of say 0.000001% per month or year once the system has been running for a few weeks/months