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Re: ColonEndParenthesis (CEP) - colonendparenthesis.com
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:23 PM
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Yes. It's clearly stopped paying; it should be moved to the "Closed Programs and Scam Warnings" folder.
I would agree if we had no news what so ever from admin team but we did!

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Re: ColonEndParenthesis (CEP) - colonendparenthesis.com
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:32 AM
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Seeing that CEP is being investigated, what would it look like if Trevor closed up shop on the other programs. Not that it matters at this point. The seasoned playas know it is time to cut and run. Fewer and fewer are putting into the programs, therefore there is not enough to pay out.
It is truly sad to see those less seasoned people holding on to the hopes, the dream that
is melting away. That one chance in life that was to make all their financial worries disappear. The chance to help others to have the same. Oh dear, the others you have talked into this. The guilt begins to rip at your gut. Worse than the loss of any money is the loss of the faith of others. The loss of the dream.
All the hype they were fed. All the hype they are still being fed. How cruel to keep feeding the dream. Those less knowledgable of how ponzi's work. Keeping up their hopes when even the seasoned playa knows that it is over.
Your also going on the assumption that its a ponzi.
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Re: ColonEndParenthesis (CEP) - colonendparenthesis.com
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:56 AM
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Your also going on the assumption that its a ponzi.
Usually best to start from there, and let the 'program' prove it's not, rather than the other way around. Both get to the same place... Right?
Just my opinion,
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Re: ColonEndParenthesis (CEP) - colonendparenthesis.com
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:39 PM
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while I enjoy playing the devils advocat, I'm not stupid LOL.. there is very little chance that the SEC will "PASS" CEP... but I'm a gambler by nature so
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I will put up $1000 of REAL CASH to a charity if you will. I'm more than willing to bet real money, are you?
I'm game for that Though the making the posts was more for the embarrasment than anything else.. which you probably knew anyway and decided to up the ante..

But Accontant, you never did explain your thoughs on why they would recieve a "consent decree"
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Re: ColonEndParenthesis (CEP) - colonendparenthesis.com
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:10 AM
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I've been away a long time and just peeped my head back in here. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Same ol' characters, different day, same scene.

We don't know JACK! So we can either pontificate, speculate, and gesticulate but it won't change anything at all.

Take a risk today... smell some flowers.

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Re: ColonEndParenthesis (CEP) - colonendparenthesis.com
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:20 AM
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while I enjoy playing the devils advocat, I'm not stupid LOL.. there is very little chance that the SEC will "PASS" CEP... but I'm a gambler by nature so


I'm game for that Though the making the posts was more for the embarrasment than anything else.. which you probably knew anyway and decided to up the ante..

But Accontant, you never did explain your thoughs on why they would recieve a "consent decree"

Because that is typical for the SEC, at least as a first step. You have to understand, the SEC cannot file criminal charges, only civil, and their main concern in an investigation is to put a halt to the illegal behavior. A Consent Decree accomplishes this, usually comes with a fine and restitution order and permantly enjoins the perp from ever doing it again (doing so is contempt of court and no trial is even needed, go straight to jail, do not collect $200). As a downside it allows the defendant to "neither admit nor deny any wrongdoing" so the scammer of the week can go and say to his suckers "I didn't admit any guilt, the SEC just closed me down because they don't want YOU to have any money" or some such garbage, see Charis Johnson who is still saying she didn't mean to do any wrong (but she still owes more than half a billion dollars to her investors, if it had been a legitimate investment anyhow) she was just naive. Like the sheep over at CEP forum, trying to twist any way they can a solution for CEP to come back and be compliant. It cannot happen, CEPs business model was and is take money from new investors in however many programs they had going, and paying old dividends from new investments, that's illegal. A legal autosurf pays about a dollar per thousand clicks (the legal test is are payments based on per click or from how much you invested, anything besides per click is a security by definition and would be illegal), someone is talking about doing surveys, gee Sparky, I asked and Ford pays the company that does them about $2 per survey, of which the company keeps more than half, and we don't want random surveys, it's very very specifically targeted whose opinion a company wants. For instance, Rolex is not interested in the opinion of a wino whose taking surveys to finance the next bottle of Boones Farm. Really, the only people who would be interested in what any demographer would describe as "Internet Financial Rubes" is HYIP admins, a group not keen to part with any money on research, but I'd bet they'd buy the member lists.
Trevor's real problem, mark my words, in the end will be the prosecuters in Kentucky, not the feds, honestly, it's not worth much effort of behalf of the federal goevernment, but a county prosecuter can still put you away for 20 years and is still impressed by $20 million.
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:28 AM
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Oh, never mind, this enlightened dingbat is on the case now, so everything should be just lollipops and puppy dogs by Friday...

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This is a second post & topic in this forum, but I am not a new member. We (our group) have known Trevor & Clayton for quite a long time and had many conversations with both. We are very clear on what they do and why they do it. See the earlier post for more on this.

I chose to make a post which is not faith based but more oriented to those who may not necessary be religious, or may be more scientific in nature, as I can see from some of the posts in this forum, there are many skeptics.

We have a significant amount placed with Trevor, Clayton & Company. It is $XM. We have no fear of loss. This was a business decision. Yes, there was a definite element of faith on our part, but we are businessmen and businesswomen and firmly understand that our significant placement is in very capable and secure hands. We also recognize this SEC period will only be a delay, for a period of time which is unknown but YOU can and have the absolute power to influence and change this regardless of your belief system, or lack of one.

Yes, you can contribute very positively and influence the outcome and the duration of the outcome, but you must be open-minded. There are many Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics studies from all over the world that show a measurable influence from the mind and thoughts of others. You have that influence and it is very important that you take the opportunity to use your influence NOW.

Some call what is inside you your intuition. Others the observer. Faith-based religions refer to it as the spirit. Others call it the invisible path and the 11th element. You have even heard of it being called the sixth sense. It exists within you and you are being asked for your Positive Thoughts toward Trevor, Clayton & Company as well as CEP.

So if you were inclined, and didn***8217;t have any idea, how would you begin? There are many suggestions that can be made and you may have your own way. If you do, great. Start now. Each day you are thankful or express gratitude, then include Trevor, Clayton & Company in those thoughts as well. Ask for others to do the same.

For those that need some guidance, here are a few suggestions, and there will be a few resources at the end of this post.

First, you must develop a method to communicate your request to your Observer, SpiritMan, Sixth Sense, or whatever you call it. Imagine all the noise your Observer filters through every moment of every hour. So to cut through the noise, tell your Observer (and I suggest you give him or her a name) where you are going to place your request.

Where is the Request Box?
REQUEST 1

Dear Observer,
(Use the name you have chosen for your Observer)

I am writing to chat with you about my Request Box to make communications and requests directly to you. From now on, when I want to send you messages, and I have requests for help, I***8217;m going to use this box.

I have chosen a (Description of What You Have Chosen) that remains (Where it is located). The messages and requests will still be placed inside this box. Please monitor the activity in this box and this file. If I put something inside, it means I have a request. It means I need help.

When I want to send you messages, and I have requests for help, I will place these requests inside this.

This will serve as our new code. This is how I***8217;m going to communicate with you from now on.

I request that you give me a knock-me-over-the-head sign as you communicate with me so I will know it is from you. If you are going to give me a signal in the form of a thought or feeling or intuition, give me the information and simultaneously give me a little tickle in my throat or stomach.

From the limited perspective of my conscious mind, this is what I think I want and I ask that you use this box to receive my messages and requests for help.

Sincerely,

Your Name

Now print it, read it out loud to yourself, and then put it in the box.

REQUEST 2
Now that you have established a place for your requests to your Observer, here can be your next request.

Dear Observer,

I am writing to chat with you about my investment in Colon End Parenthesis (CEP).

We have approximately $XXX,XXX (Your Number) or more invested in CEP. CEP is currently under informal investigation by the SEC. We used to receive regular payments from CEP from these investments which were used to (How did you use the funds?) Since CEP has been under informal investigation, which has been since around May 19, 2007 or earlier, we have not received a payment from CEP.

Normally we would receive $XXX,XXX in income per month from the $XXX,XXX invested in CEP, which is 60% per month. We have been reinvesting some of the income back into CEP to grow the amount invested.

In general, I***8217;m asking for you to help me with the following:

Guide me to the people, ideas, resources, opportunities, actions, clients, and/or whatever else it takes to accomplish the following goals while staying in total alignment with who I really am and how I really want to live, having maximum fun, happiness, joy and minimal stress through the process.

Or, if it***8217;s not part of my purpose to grant these requests, then please make your reasons clear to me so I can understand and move in another direction with clarity, peace, and confidence.

If it is part of my purpose, but there are blockages preventing my progress, please help me to release or change them.

On top of all these requests, please show me the way to get to the absolute core of the issue with CEP so that our funds are released on or before (Pick a date), 2007, so that we may receive our funds from CEP.

I am aware that there may be some overlap from this request to requests sent to you earlier. I wanted to be specific regarding this particular issue that existed with CEP so that you may give me specific guidance and help.

Here is what I want and the areas I need help with:

Easily, in as stress-free a manner as possible and as quickly as possible, to receive, at a minimum, from CEP, by whatever method which is available, $XXX,XXX, preferably more, and preferably to or transferable to the my CEP Trust account on or before (Pick a Date), 2007.

To guide Trevor Reed & Clayton to the people, ideas, resources, opportunities, actions, clients, and/or whatever else it takes to accomplish the above goals and to guide them to a swift solution, resolution and completion to the SEC investigation whereby CEP will be able to return to operating normally and begin paying us again as before or better.

On this date, this is what I think I want from the limited perspective of my conscious mind, and I ask that you give me this or something even better.

I request that you give me a knock-me-over-the-head sign as you communicate with me so I will know it is from you. If you are going to give me a signal in the form of a thought or feeling or intuition, give me the information and simultaneously give me a little tickle in my throat or stomach.

Sincerely,

Your Name

Now print it, read it out loud to yourself, and then put it in the box.

You may feel that this seems a little strange and yes that is normal for you to feel this way. I suggest that you do a little research and reading before you discard the idea that your positive thoughts will influence the situation.
Why do the new age dingaliings seem to come out when these scams fail, has crystal power or karma ever saved a dead ponzi scheme?
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:49 AM
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"We have a significant amount placed with Trevor, Clayton & Company. It is $XM."

A couple quick comments...
One - that's not reality. That's called 'bait'...

Two - same 'Clayton' that I've run into several times? One can only hope...

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Old 06-19-2007, 07:52 AM
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Why do the new age dingaliings seem to come out when these scams fail, has crystal power or karma ever saved a dead ponzi scheme?
No, but a quick (before the money is gone), pointed, direct legal action against those 'responsible' lawsuit usually have the best chance of any 'recovery'.

However, not sure how SEC involvement would affect that. 'First come, (first seized?), first served' logic possibly apply here?

Curious,
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:56 AM
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Oh, and on a different note - This is a US case, right? And, they're proposing a 'religious' approach?
An offhand consideration of the 'separation of church and state' in order here?
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