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**mrGSH** · #**441** 02-02-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OpenTrade

Dear Open Trade Clients and TalkGold visitors,

I would like to comment on the situation with our SSL certificate.

We would like to assure you that we are not related to EuroTrade. EuroTrade was a ponzi website that attracted victims to invest in it. As soon as they had not enough money to pay their users, they simply closed down their website and ran away. Surely, they will start (or already started) new ponzi project similar to EuroTrade and they generated and installed a forged SSL certificate with our domain name to damage our reputation and to attract more victims to their new ponzi website. The website of our legal company (Open Trade International, Inc.) is one of the most popular projects nowadays, so it became the target of EuroTrade's dirty and unavailing efforts.

It is impossible to have the same SSL certificate on different domain names, otherwise any web browser will report an error about it. You can ask any third-party admin and he will confirm that.

We are forced to be advertised among such ponzi websites as there are many potential investors who invest with our reliable and legal business. If you require any due diligence information please, contact our Customer Support representatives via e-mail or live chat.

We would be very grateful if you post this information on any forum where this topic is discussed.

We look forward to building a continuous and mutually beneficial cooperation with you.

Sincerely yours,
Michael Rodden
Open Trade PR Manager

So, Why don't you just go ahead and post this information right here... BTW, unfortunatelly your explanation failed to convince me.....

high-rez · #**442** 02-02-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ponziscams

I just bring the Facts as I find them.....Can't argue with the fact that Opentrades SSL Cert is on Eutrade's Forum!

It seems to me that you were paid by that scammer Europetrade!!?

Why don't you bring the facts that eurotrade changed its certificate after they stopped paying???? I clearly remember that each time I logged to eurotrade my browser accepted their own certificate (not the certificate of opentrade.net!).

So you'd better bring better facts and make deeper investigation before claiming anything! I lost 2k with eurotrade and these scammers make me very angry

By the way, click on the lock of your browser see the issuer of their ssl certificate.

So everybody should understand that it was a trick from europetrade's site to kill the strongest competitor

And nothing else!!!

I repeat that I clearly remember that they had their own SSL and it's impossible not to notice it.

I'm very suspicious about ponziscams

ponziscams · #**443** 02-02-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by high-rez

It seems to me that you were paid by that scammer Europetrade!!?

Why don't you bring the facts that eurotrade changed its certificate after they stopped paying???? I clearly remember that each time I logged to eurotrade my browser accepted their own certificate (not the certificate of opentrade.net!).

So you'd better bring better facts and make deeper investigation before claiming anything! I lost 2k with eurotrade and these scammers make me very angry

By the way, click on the lock of your browser see the issuer of their ssl certificate.

So everybody should understand that it was a trick from europetrade's site to kill the strongest competitor

And nothing else!!!

I repeat that I clearly remember that they had their own SSL and it's impossible not to notice it.

I'm very suspicious about ponziscams

It seems to me that you are a paid poster of blah blah blah! Attack Facts not the messenger.

I'm very suspicious of you.

high-rez · #**444** 02-02-2007, 11:21 PM

One more thing... If the owners of eurotrade do such things - they plan to start new ponzi website. So be aware of new scammers!

ponziscams · #**445** 02-02-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mrGSH

So, Why don't you just go ahead and post this information right here... BTW, unfortunatelly your explanation failed to convince me.....

Thay have posted the same canned message on all the forums, and on my blog

**mrGSH** · #**446** 02-02-2007, 11:31 PM

While we are discussing obviously some important things, the main question right now is: Are there any verifiable payments comming? Are we ready to move into the "scam/closed" section?

mishugenah · #**447** 02-02-2007, 11:37 PM

I got paid today, just fine!

ponziscams · #**448** 02-03-2007, 12:06 AM

One Net block owned by Opentrade is Netblock: 209.249.221.16/29
Now let see here Libertyreserve is 209.249.221.19 that falls into that block owned by Opentrade
Autocambist.com and .net 209.249.221.21 which falls under the same IP Block owned by opentrade.net and a website called global-car.biz which the IP is 209.249.221.25 same IP blcok owned by opentrade.

BUSTED!!!

See proof below!

http://www.ponziscams.com/libertyres...-opentradenet/
http://www.ponziscams.com/autocambis...-to-opentrade/

**talkgold** · #**449** 02-03-2007, 12:10 AM

I do want to say that I know of several large programs which use the same host and sometimes even the same servers. We move programs into the scam folder when they stop paying out. Otherwise there are too many problems and arguements about our decisions.

ponziscams · #**450** 02-03-2007, 12:14 AM

The IP addresses are in one block assigned to opentrade account