12DailyPro Was Not A Scam!!!

[The-Enforcer]

I would like to point out that after much consideration I believe 12dailypro was not a scam.

I believe the owner of 12dailypro (Charis Johnson) was just a clever opportunist who from the offset used her brilliant marketing mind to turn an ordinary run of the mill internet program into a multimillion doller business.

Her only crime was to make a success of a program where others had failed dismally. As you all know where there is success in this life you can pretty much guarantee that around the corner there are societies professionl schemers lurking and just waiting patiently to bring you down. What I am saying here is that Charis became a high profile target simply because she was controlling multi millions of Dollers.

A person in my mind is innocent until proven guilty and as yet she hasn't been found guilty. The authorities would like us to be of the oppinion that she is very much guilty as this gave them the green light to legally plunder the money she was controlling and boy have they dug in.

(Intent) is what seperates the criminal from the innocent opportunist and it will never be possible to discover whether Charris set out with the intent to rip people off. In fact the opposite is true as the evidence shows that she had all the formulaes in place to ensure that almost all of her investors got paid by the program.

If I could i would employ Charis tomorrow as she is one of the most brilliant marketing minds of this age. When one sits back and considers what she achieved with a simple program which you can still purchase online for a few hundred dollers; then you have to admire the brilliance of her mind.

Charis I stand in awe of you! Your name will go down in history with the greats of this world like "Charles Ponzi" and the likes. You see ladies and gents you have to consider that in one year Charis went from rags to riches and then to become a global name! Now that is most inspiring.

[Cattysha]

Jeffery Dohmer is famous too. That doesn't mean he's innocent.

she had all the formulaes in place to ensure that almost all of her investors got paid by the program.

Almost all? So you mean it's a PONZI...which means it's illegal.

Have the charges against her been dropped? Of course not.

[The-Enforcer]

Catty a Ponzi is a Ponzi. An auto surf is an autosurf! There is absolutely no comparison to be made between the two.

The Ponzi definition was elaborately concocted to demonise the program thereby opening a door for the authorities to enter. To date there is no concrete evidence to show that an autosurf has the same attributes as the original Charles Ponzi program. In fact there is no comparison its all just BS and the public has been duped.

This whole thing was about money! She "Charis Johnson" had it and they the authorities didn't like it and its as simple as that.

[Cattysha]

Oh, it was about money alright! Lot's of it. Autosurfing was the disguise used. It was a PONZI...plain and simple. When does it go to court?

[notjomoma]

Originally Posted by Cattysha

Oh, it was about money alright! Lot's of it. Autosurfing was the disguise used. It was a PONZI...plain and simple. When does it go to court?

Amen, finally some truth.

[happyhost]

It seems odd that if the authorities didn't want someone to have some money they'd go after a billionaire, Gates, Oprah, and their ilk, not someone running a program like an 'autosurf'.

[NoLoss]

finally some truth.

When are we finally, if ever, going to get some truth from you, moma? Or from that ratbag, scum-ridden forum of yours?

[ChrisMono]

illegal doesnt mean scam IMO....

[cisco]

Originally Posted by Surfyear chris

illegal doesnt mean scam IMO....

What planet are you from? Do you plan on staying here long?

[notjomoma]

Originally Posted by NoLoss

When are we finally, if ever, going to get some truth from you, moma? Or from that ratbag, scum-ridden forum of yours?

How about this no floss?

Wasnt it Brends who wanted to try on his boots ????

( couldnt resist that one)

That is not the only thing she tried

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From: bssb Oct-24 12:56 pm
To: cosycams001 (6 of 15)

2042.6 in reply to 2042.5

"Yes I remember the day well,
you spent ages promoting on paltalk giving out someone elses referal page until I pointed it out to you "

I shared that room with two other members, but I'm glad you ended up under me

"My E mail address is correct. but I have had no e mails from you, it was set to reject any mailings other than text due to a spate of virus mails coming in with attachements so maybe you were sending html and got auto deleted."

The only HTML in those emails is the URL for GP that's in my email signature. I've never sent you anything else, I don't promote anything else, so why would I.

" I will be happy to revert back to a free membership. I am in dire need of every penny I can get at the moment . Judging by my earnings since the start, less premier membership fee, conversion to sterling bank charges and GP deductions for payment, I end up paying GP each month for the privelage of promoting them. I never expected to make a fortune, but I did not expect to make a loss however small."

Bob, I totally understand that. I never wanted anyone to join premier who was not motivated on there own to do so, except my family members who are GFMR (I gave them no out...lol), but none of them joined the rush. I choose to pay monthly because I believe that if they ever get this thing off the ground, I could make a little money. [Tray] (not because of the cheap ISP Brends? tsk tsk tsk, did you lie at WWSN when you said that's why you pay to stay??? Dropping your Rush membership would reduce your earnings in the long run, if they are successful, but there are a lot of "IF's" so do what you have to, and I wish you the best. I haven't read the rest of this thread, but I hope someone has given you the correct email addresses to contact doris in accounting, if not, email me and I will get it for you.


Today, 02:04 PM
NoLoss
Investor Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 251

Re: anyone seen this..lol its the person you all know and love catty.

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Accountant, "If you made a profits you are a thief, If not you are a sucker, If you promoted it you are an accessory before and after the fact! Tell us more J2.



Moma, "If you made a profits from GP you are a thief, If not you are a sucker, If you promoted it you are an accessory before and after the fact! Tell us more moma.
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From: bssb May-9 12:16 pm
To: dreamrecipe unread (12 of 21)

5871.12 in reply to 5871.11

OK, so you pay $25. for 100 signups. That means the company that you are paying gets 25 cents per signup. Assuming the person who signs up gets half of the 25 cents...say 13 cents...how many other things has that person signed up for simply to get paid?

When did you get your 100 signups? How many of them are active? How many have ever responded to your emails?

I'm not bashing you in any way. I'm just trying to save people some money, since I had to learn the hard way. BTW, I paid for mine early in 2001, back when I did contact everyone who signed up. None of them responded to my emails, or visited the site.



By that stage Alan had gone through about $4 million $$$ LOL

Monday, 28 April 2003


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From: bssb Apr-25 3:46 pm
To: jran unread (6 of 10)

5724.6 in reply to 5724.5

Amen to that! All we have to do is wait....he's the one who REALLY needs relief. Some people are losing patience just waiting....can you imagine what Alan is going through?

The question of Who was Eddie in GP?

I have never been able to convince myself that he was simply cruising the internet one day and 'discovered' the WWSN forum..and if my memory is correct way back in the old days the ONLY people Eddie ever attacked were the people who wavered in their faith in GP..

Stick2it was his fav target
Then it was Gary..

he never said a word against the BIG promoters of the scheme....or the little ones

Now he attacks GoneFishing....why...because gonefishing spoke out asked questions about GP before others had the courage to question Alan or the scheme and do something about it.