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Old 08-18-2005, 09:00 AM
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Thanks for posting this update, it all makes sence now.

How did you get it? Just curious.

They should of had their domain locked just as I have at Go-Daddy and no one seems to be able tp hack into the domain accounts or change details.
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:13 AM
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THanks again for the useful update~and hope our Invex could come back asap~
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...and the usual excuses comes...
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:01 PM
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...and the usual excuses comes...
Yakuza,

I normally would tend to agree with you, and you can see by my post history that I am generally very skeptical of Invex. Once the excuses start, the end is imminent.

However, as annoying as the admin is, they have bounced back a couple times, and it was oddly refreshing to see their familiar little "specialist" comments in the newsletter above.

I posted on the Invex forum until they suddenly removed my password one day for no apparent reason - and early on I told them the way they would go out would be a "hacker" or a "DDOS" - funny how they claimed both.

Think about this though: imagine what it will do for investor confidence in the admin (which is already cult-like), and future investment, if they can come back after a 4-5 day outtage and begin payment again. Whether it was self-orchestrated or not, I certainly think there will be a short lull and a withdrawal period, followed by a large influx of cash once again.

Even at 2.6% a day (the platinum plan compound interest), they still won't have to pay out massive amounts until the bond payout date or eary Feb 2006.

Even though they claim there were $4.8Mill in titanium plan, which is almost certanly a complete fabrication, why would they bother to post that a day before leaving when there is some serious mileage they can gain from investor confidence and future investment by doubling the amount they are showing as invested on the site.

Also, keep in mind their site forum has been down along with the site. When they come back up there will be a deluge of praises and cheers from the cult for their bravery and valor in the face of an onslaught. Even the people who have not been paid while the site is down will be emitting a collective "whew" rather than skull-bashing them. Especially when their withdrawal requests are met shortly afterward.

If it has been a self-orchestrated outtage, it is nothing short of ingenious. Can't wait to see how it unfolds!

As an investor who's only had time to make $5K profit off of Invex, I'd like nothing more than to see them come on back and keep paying!
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:01 PM
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Dear Invex Ltd. Investors,

Here is an update on the current situation, please largely publish
this email to inform people that are not registered on our mailing
list but who feel concerned by the Invex Ltd. situation. Please if you
publish this message, do not truncate it.


Seeing the serious technical problems we had to face, I came back
earlier from South-America, and am currently in Geneva, Switzerland,
where was hold a meeting between the Invex Ltd. and the Lomax Group
Corp.


THE SITUATION

As we told you earlier, the server and the domain name were "hacked".
First, the IP address assigned to invex.org sent the connections to
another folder than the original Invex Ltd. website, where was
displayed a forged "Plesk page".

Then, the hackers changed the DNS of the domain name and pointed it to
a "For sale" page, with some insulting messages, then (as it is now),
on a "Soon back" page!

We have contacted the ICANN to recover our domain name. It takes some
time as we had to send the ID copies of Mr. Werner, the Administrative
Director of the Lomax Group Corp. who is the legal owner of invex.org.
Then, there is an administrative process that takes some time.

On the technical point, we purchased a dedicated box in a Central
American datacenter, and moved all the invex.org files there. We
decided to cancel our Prolexic protection, not because we were unhappy
of the great Service they supplied, but because we wanted be back
"100% new". We have hired another team for the server protection, and
they will have completed the setup on Friday evening probably.


We do expect to be back on Saturday, and anyway before Monday.


THE PROGRAM

We are conscient that a lot of Investors will worry now of our
program, and that we could face massive payment requests. That is why
we decided the following rules:

* All the pending requests before the downtime will be paid as soon as
we will be back online.

* For the new requests, we will, during 2 weeks, accept the payment of
only the WEEKLY interest. All requests to receive the compounded
interest or to terminate the investments, will be converted into a
weekly payment.

* We will then, after 2 weeks, see the situation and will announce if
we go back to the normal process, or if we extend this "Weekly
payments only" period.

My feeling is that seeing us back, and paying, will make our
Investors, ONCE MORE, more confident in our programs and our Company.

All changements that were announced some days ago, especially about
the Silver plan, the Phone line, etc, will of course be done as
promised.


DEBIT CARDS

Invex Ltd. stops with immediate effect all collaboration with
myGcards: On August 11th, one of our largest Investors (A Titanium
plan and a few Platinum plans), sent a $80k (USD 80,000!) wire to fund
his gcards he purchased through Invex Ltd. Our Investor already sent
large wires after our payouts, to fund his cards, and never
encountered any problem. This last time, after waiting 6 days, mygcard
decided to block all the cards of our Investor, and declines to send
back the $80k wire, with an allegation of "suspicion of fraudulous
transactions". MyGcard yesterday asked our Investor to supply a copy
of an ID. Our Investor sent it about 12 hours ago, and myGcard doesn't
reply to his emails. Our Investor has lost $80,000, stolen by mygcard,
at least at the time I am writing this message.

I have personnally tried to help solving the case with Mr. Alain
Vignard, the Vice-President of myGcard. My efforts have been vain, our
Investor doesn't even now receives any reply to his emails from the
myGcard Support. If the case isn't resolved in the next hours, we will
publsih on the Invex Ltd. website all the emails exchanged between me
and Mr. Alain Vignard.

Another reason about the immediate cessation of our collaboration with
myGcards is that we got serious evidences that the Vice-President of
myGcards is personnally involved in money laundry with large amounts
of cash transferred between a few countries. We have been told that
some official investigations are about to be launched. Despite this
does not concern Invex Ltd. at all, we cannot continue working with
myGcard.


That is why we will not resell any more Gcard, and we will not accept
anymore reload requests. Cards purchased can always be reloaded
directly by myGcards, assuming the company will not disappear
tomorrow.

We do apologize for this situation, as we recommended and promoted the
cards offered by myGcard.com. It seems that we have been too confident
in the kind words of the myGcard Vice-President and didn't do enough
DD.


BANK ACCOUNT

We got, at least, a positive reply from a Western European reputable
bank and will be able to offer bank accounts to our Investors. The
price will be $200, including a debit card, a TRUE debit card with a
"Cirrus" logo, directly emitted by a LICENCED bank. Applicants will
not need to visit the bank. The details will be available on our
website as soon as we will be back.


NEW DESIGN AND WEEKLY VIDEO-CONFERENCES

Our webmaster used this downtime to prepare a new design for the Invex
Ltd. website.

We will also launch, mid-September, weekly video-conferences. The
program will be announced soon, right after our comeback online.



Dear Invex Ltd. Investors! Two times again, we went offline for
technical reasons, for attacks from hackers. Two times already, this
incidents were used by a few people to defamate our Company. Two
times, we went back.
We could have thought that these "specialists" would be a bit more
decent, today. Sad, but NO, they are back on various forums, with
their "We told you", or "They are gone", etc.

We at Invex Ltd. feel very sad for them: Our third comeback will show
them as the... Specialists, they are really!

Thank you to You, Invex Ltd. investors, and see you soon online!

Renaud de la Taille
Invex Ltd.
https://www.invex.org


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Old 08-18-2005, 11:44 PM
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Quote:
We are conscient that a lot of Investors will worry now of our
program, and that we could face massive payment requests. That is why
we decided the following rules:

* All the pending requests before the downtime will be paid as soon as
we will be back online.

* For the new requests, we will, during 2 weeks, accept the payment of
only the WEEKLY interest. All requests to receive the compounded
interest or to terminate the investments, will be converted into a
weekly payment.
If they really traded then the site being down shouldn't bother payouts. Sound like they are paying people today what people invested with yesterday. If they actually traded then wouldn't they still be able to pay out without a web site? They just had a payout error not to long ago & now another. Sounds fishy....
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:31 PM
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Dear Invex Ltd. Investors,


The technical staff at the datacenter is working hard and things are
on the right way. Here are some explainations of what we are doing:

As you know, our server was attacked and seriously hit. We were using
the Prolexic protection, that was very efficient, but a small bug in
OUR protection (Not from Prolexic, but from US, our technical team)
made the hackers able to enter our server.

Using Prolexic, our site's IP address was hidden, and impossible to
guess. The "bug" was that in the emails that our server sent to you
(for the Support Center, for the passwords, etc), showed the IP
address of our mail server!

The hackers entered our server through THIS IP address. Then it was
easy for them to redirect the domain to another place, and so appeared
this fake "Plesk page".

We will use this lesson, and are working so that:

1- The IP address of the domain will be hidden as before,
2- The mails sent from the server (Tickets, passwords, etc) will be
sent through a chain of public remailers. Some of you who know, for
example, Mixmaster, the "onion routers" etc, understand what I am
speaking about.

This takes time, and we will not re-open the site, even for a
"welcome" page, until all is setup. Hackers showed how efficient is
their work, and we won't give a chance to them.

We decided to stop working with Prolexic despite we were very happy of
their Service, but we prefer work with a 100% new system.

The domain name invex.org HAS BEEN recovered by us.

About the DNS: We let them, until we are not ready to run again, at
Zoneedit. We will then change them to a DNS server that will be, too,
hidden. Requests will go through a well-protected network, redirected
to our hidden DNS server, that will then send them to our "protected
network" (Like Prolexic was before), that will send them to our server!

Sorry for all these technical details, but they were usefull as we
read all the stupid stuff that is told on various places. About this,
we decided to not give any kind of reply. Our only reply will be done
by the re-opening of our service.

The question you are all asking is "When?". We are working on the
"remailer" system that must be installed on our server. It is hard to
setup as it involves cryptography, frequent automatic tests that must
be run every 10 minutes or so to be sure that the network that will be
used to route the emails is not broken, etc etc.

We are still expecting to be online at the beginning of the week, but
we will for sure NOT reopen until ALL is at 100% ready. ONE small
error and we are gone for a new hack!

I will just reply to a message from probably a "specialist of
security", who wrote "With $5,000,000 received, they are not able to
protect their website!"
This is a really stupid remark, as bank servers are sometimes hacked
too, as governmental servers too! And they hav emore money than us to
protect their business!

A last note about our last update: All what we wrote about, including
about some third parties companies, is 100% accurate and will be
developped as soon as we will beck online.

Those of you who want contact us may write to invexmail@safe-mail.net
We will try to reply to everybody, but you probably understand that we
are about to receive thousands of mails, so be patient for the reply.
Moreover, we ill not reply to questions about "your" investment, with
sums that will be paid etc. Just know that your investments are SAFE
and continue to generate profits, you will just login when we will be
back online and will see them.


Thank you again for your patience!

Invex Ltd. Staff
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