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Re: Pathway-2-prosperity - Pathway-2-prosperity.net
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Old 10-03-2008, 04:28 AM
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Yes that's the one, thanks

100 bucks for the debit card is more than I thought he'd slug the members...
Nick is going to make a nice profit from the end game
Geez, read the whole update if you're gonna make comments on it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 04:29 AM
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Only 17 guest viewing ? Looks like a light night.
It's funny that you think 17 is alot...is it?
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Old 10-03-2008, 06:13 AM
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They do NOT have an international banking license...
That's a good bet since there's no such thing as an "international banking license." ; ) Licensing is required in every jurisdiction where a bank operates.

That is other than maybe the ones that you purchase on the Net for $300 like First Oceanic "Bank" which, according to it anyway, is chartered in Somalia where they don't even have a functioning government to issue any bank licenses. You might as well print up the license yourself since no other banks will do business with it. Not worth anything as far as functioning as a bank or as far as interoperating with real banks.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:51 AM
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First off, sorry for copying the whole post, as I'm not good with the snip feature and stuff, lol.
No sweat,

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As for the stall tactic with the PP's, I can see that being a valid possiblity. However, those fees are how the pp's make their money. So, if STP or AP wanted to charge the full boat on fee's, what could Nick or anybody else really do about it? The money's in there and the only way to get it out is through them and paying their fees. So, it would actually cost Nick LESS money to drain his STP and AP accounts by completing payouts with the remaining balances because WE the members who are getting paid, will pay the fees to actually withdrawl the funds out, not Nick.
Well exactly BUT if Nick wanted to withdraw a large sum as stated the PP would give him a much better rate, PLUS Nick would make any or perhaps ALL of those fees back with the FEES Energy it's only common sense that he would be bending over backwards to catch up on the nearly 90 days he is behind...

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Of course, I dont' know for sure and the best way, like you said is to call STP or AP and see if they offer flat fees for big money transfers/withdrawls.
I don't know enough about STP or AP to judge what and how they do business but I know for a fact that at Paypal your fees are a sliding scale going down with the more activity and volume you do. .and of course for different types of accounts... still sounds like a stall to me.

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Again, with the banking stuff, I have no clue, but maybe that's part of why it took 1.5 yrs to get it done, lol.
Hahaha, you are an optimist I like that. The key to the banking lie is that there are very very few places in the world left since 9/11 that will allow just anybody to open a bank and quite frankly those places are NOT places you want to put millions of dollars. Nick has claimed for sometime now the bank option would be opened in The T&C and if anybody takes a quick read of their banking laws they would see two things, one it could not possibly take 1.5 years and secondly IF Nick is going to stick with that claim a simply email or phone will be able to prove if he does or does not have a license.. so its pretty clear he is going to claim he opened it somewhere else now as he is being cornered by people that are digging up more dirt on him. Here's a little snippet for you....please note the bold parts.. makes for interesting reading. Oh my queries in red as per usual.


Financial Services Commission
Turks and Caicos Islands: Banking And Trusteeship


Banking and the administration of trusts are essential ingredients of any well developed financial services industry. As a zero-tax domicile, free of exchange control, TCI is an attractive location for a variety of banking and trust activities.

A TCI bank may cater to the domestic market or serve its existing client base and develop new products and clients internationally.

A TCI trust company may provide a range of services including trusteeship, administration of estates, custody of corporations where the objective of the subsidiary is to undertake investment securities, portfolio management, company management and registrar and transfer agent facilities. A trustee licence is often the most appropriate and cost-effective alternative to a banking licence for many professional firms.

THE LAW

Two types of banking licence are available under Banking Ordinance 1979, updated in 1989: 1) a National Banking License for banking activities within the TCI; and 2) Overseas Banking Licence for banking activities outside TCI. It is possible to have a combined National and Overseas Licence.

REQUIREMENTS FOR BANK LICENSING

An application for National Banking Licence will be considered only in respect an unrestricted licence of branches or subsidiaries of banks with an established track record P2P has NO established track record of operating a bank which are subject to effective consolidated supervision by their home supervisory authority, except where the bank is predominantly locally owned and primarily doing business within TCI.

An application for an Overseas Banking Licence will be considered from:

1) branches or subsidiaries of banks with an established & track record subject to effective consolidated supervision; Hmm ok NOT Nick as he does not own a bank anywhere else.

2) banks which, although not subsidiaries, are closely associated with an overseas bank and which, by agreement, will be included within the consolidated supervision exercised by the overseas bank's home supervisory authority; Not Nick he does not have supervision from Canadian or I would assume Russian banking authorities, if he did why 1.5 years for a simple three month process?

3) wholly-owned subsidiaries of major corporations where the objective of the subsidiary is to undertake in-house treasury operations which are fully consolidated within the published financial statements of the parent company. P2P is not a wholly owned sub of any company as Nick points out every chance he gets there is NO company you guys are just "piggy backing" on his personal investment portfolio...

Banking licence applications will be subject to a detailed review. When establishing a bank, the practical considerations are the capitalisation requirement, which is a minimum of $500,000, legal fees of $10,000, and the structure of the bank. Two main requirements are the submission of a detailed Business Plan and the written consent from the home supervisory banking authority to the establishment of the bank in TCI. So one of the MAIN TWO items for a bank to be opened in The T&C is a written consent from the Canadian banking authorities or whatever country Nick is claiming to be living these days.. what do you think the odds of that happening?

It's pretty clear that Nick is going to have to change his long told story about the bank being registered in the T&C and more so the whole offering interest while it sounds good it is actually the nail in the coffin of the bank fairy tale... keep your eyes on this one IF it ever does launch Nickie is going to wish he never promised this the vultures are circling waiting for him to try this one..
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:08 AM
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Not worth anything as far as functioning as a bank or as far as interoperating with real banks.
Well that's the other thing that Nick seems to be assuming nobody is smart enough to know for his Energy Bank to do wire transfers on either the SWIFT or ACH route he needs a reference letter and guarantee from a REAL long term bank involved in those services.. again I do know this factually as I've been down this road not that long ago it's a major pain to get on those networks now.

If you want some not so light reading go to this page http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=7229 on there you can download the PDF document from SWIFT explaining how one becomes a member, have a read and tell me if you "HONESTLY" believe that P2P is going to meet those guidelines? Hehe...

I suggest pages 16 and 17 would be a great place to start.. read it and then think about how much trouble Nick has keeping a simple HYIP script online and working...and how long it took to have a free forum script put up... do you really believe he could do the steps required let alone meet the requirements.. the one that really caught my eye was...

5.2. The eligibility criteria of a Member are set forth in Article 8 of the Articles of Association. A Sub-Member must meet the eligibility criteria of a Member and be more than 50 percent directly or 100 percent indirectly owned by a Member, and under the full management control of the Member. The Member shall be liable for all obligations towards the company of its Sub-Members.

Makes good bedtime reading.
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:07 AM
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That's a good bet since there's no such thing as an "international banking license." ; ) Licensing is required in every jurisdiction where a bank operates.

I just want to know whom pays you traderJ ???
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:08 AM
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well we're waiting
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:10 AM
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Since there is no such thing as an "International Banking License"

I would like to know whom pays you TraderJ ?
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:14 AM
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Since there is no such thing as an "International Banking License"
You will have to explain yourself better, the quote above was NOT mine someone else in the thread made it so I'm not sure why it is in a post you are directing at me.

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I would like to know whom pays you TraderJ ?
I am still not sure I follow your point. First of all it's none of your business what I do to earn my income.. so not sure why you think I own you an answer. But you can put your mind at ease I earn my income honestly, running actual brick and mortar businesses.. three of them at last count. Plus my dealings in the markets... why is this of concern to you?

I always find it amusing when people like you (three whole posts all saying pretty much the same thing) feel like somehow I owe you something. If you really want to talk about whom owes whom I would suggest you start with Nick and his cronies that are stealing from people.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:27 PM
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4) Current pendings to AP/STP will remain as they are: there are 2 main reasons for this: first, the processors have a rather small maximum withdrawl limit and it would take forever to get the funds transferred to Energy Ltd., and second, Nick is subject to the same fees on withdrawls as everyone else. When youre talking about millions of dollars, the fees become staggeringly high. As a result, current pendings will be paid out using STP and AP funds until the funds in these processors run out. Once youre verified through Energy Ltd, you will be able to request payouts to it and withdraw your funds by a variety of methods which our outlined on the Energy Ltd. site.
Maybe I'm missing something but isn't it strange why AP/STP have millions of dollars of P2P money yet payments aren't catching up.
Or why if AP/STP don't pay interest on balances (unlike Energy Ltd ) there should be a large amount of funds in there any way. Wouldn't those funds be better in lets say something like a bank until the time was needed to transfer them.

Also if there is millions of $$ in STP/AP is this just a few days pendings, I mean wouldn't it be easier to cut off those pendings and issue free (yes free) debit cards to those who have been waiting in the que for a long time or just send them priority application forms.

Also will those rushing to sign up for Energy Ltd now be under the impression that they can jump the que. Wouldn't it be fair to allow those awaiting funds via STP/AP to transfer those requests to Energy Ltd, perhaps they will be able to.

Also I wonder if those debit cards can be used in the same way as Visa or Mastercard, I mean will the day come when we could walk into our favorite shop and the sign 'Energy Ltd Accepted Here' be on display.

Looks like Energy ltd will be a one stop solution, almost to good to be true in fact.

Oh and its really naughty to post updates from the Private forum on public ones but thanks.
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