Thanks, not sure what a UE licence is but I have never come across this and I have been driving in Europe including the east since 1989. I always cross northern France of course going to the ports. I would like to test it, perhaps its a USA thing they have?
You are being mysterious about the insurer, you said that there were plenty of them in France and Austria. If they are doing this business legitimately then its commercial business for them, so why the secrecy? I don't have time to cruise down to the Cote d'Azur and do some detective work, a missionary's life is always very busy for poor pay. So can you give us a web address maybe please? Or if you really insist I could give you an email address to let me know confidentially if really essential.
I assume that you are from Serbia like me. I am considering registering car imported from USA on Vanuatu plates to drive it in mainly Serbia, sometimes in Bosnia and Montenegro . I plan to use border issurance for it. Did you had any problems with your car in Serbia untill this moment?
Most of the time I have been based in Sarajevo but driven all round the Balkans. (Now centred on Serbia where I hope to stay for a long time). People like Croatia Osiguranje, Sarajevo Osiguranje, Euroherc, Bobar etc. etc. Will issue insurance for the country of the office only. It sounds good until you try to get the pink card frontier insurance and then you have problems.
I have driven in Serbia with no problems and not even been stopped by the police, like they do when they need to fill their wallets. Currently my car is out of the country and will be going back there when I get the new insurance, without having to go to the Dutch company I mentioned before.
Border crossings like Rudo where there is one man and his dog, don't even like crossing foreigners let alone issue insurance.
Then again, Slavonski Brod - a big and busy crossing as I am sure you will know - has an office but its open only occasionally. I have even known it closed on a Saturday morning in Summer when the traffic is queuing from 1km back over the bridge.
Yet go to Metkovic and the office is always open but again only 9 -5.
I have had the same problem at Maribor in Slovenia. So one day drove across Croatia and Slovenia right up to the Austrian border without a pink card. Of course at the Austrian border the guards pull you off under the covered area and refuse to allow you onwards until you have got the EU green card from the motorist's office. But again that is only open 9 - 5.
So frontier insurance is a waste of time unless you cross just one point regularly and know when it is open, and restrict yourself to one time of crossing. Oh yes, its also expensive to buy a 2 week pink card too.
Its not so good to get insurance in Serbia anyway, though a colleague tells me I should try and get the quasi diplo plates that they have. But then it defeats the object of having the Vanuatu reg as you go straight into the Serbian 'system'. When you have had the Vanuatu reg and been out of the 'system' for so long, you tend not to want to go back to meeting all the regulations, most notably residence registration which is unnecessary for an EU citizen who is crossing the border at least every 3 months. Also of course the police can play with you more as they have the 'right' to stop you with local plates.
So try and get some local insurance if you can at all, and then please oh please let me know about it !!!
If you can find it for me too then we wil meet in Kneza Mihaila one evening. I am never shy at saying 'thank you' to a friend.
Sounds like our friend Shayla has the answer but is being shy about it.
I found that you can get in Serbia so called border insurance which covers you while you stay in Serbia. Price for it is 110 euros for 1 month or 632 euros for 12 months. Insurance is issued by main serbian car organisation - Auto Moto Savez Srbije
But what about a green card? Frontier insurance is issued by the country that you enter and not that which you are leaving. The border office isues it against production of the registration document. (They laugh wehn they see 'Vanuatu' and ask which country it is in ! I tell them its beside Australia and they are then happy. I don't argue that it is a country all of its own, too complicated for an insurance clerk to get his brain round.)
So does this insurance of which you speak cover you for just the adjoining countries only - BiH, HR, MD,BG,RO,CG ?? It seems strange, but who cares as long as its genuine.
I have not yet looked at the website, will do now.
But my car is in the EU and I need to get it to Serbia to benefit from this insurance, as I need a green card to get across the EU first. Otherwise its back to the Dutch company who do short term insurance at huge prices.
But what about a green card? Frontier insurance is issued by the country that you enter and not that which you are leaving. The border office isues it against production of the registration document. (They laugh wehn they see 'Vanuatu' and ask which country it is in ! I tell them its beside Australia and they are then happy. I don't argue that it is a country all of its own, too complicated for an insurance clerk to get his brain round.)
So does this insurance of which you speak cover you for just the adjoining countries only - BiH, HR, MD,BG,RO,CG ?? It seems strange, but who cares as long as its genuine.
I have not yet looked at the website, will do now.
But my car is in the EU and I need to get it to Serbia to benefit from this insurance, as I need a green card to get across the EU first. Otherwise its back to the Dutch company who do short term insurance at huge prices.
cheers
mish
you dont need greencard for border insurance. generally idea of border isurance is that people which insurance doesnt cover country in which they enter can drive car while they reside in it . so for each country you just need to buy border insurance instead having green card.
So you can drive Vanuatu car without any insurance and in border of any country which you are visiting before you enter, you just buy board insurance for the period you will be in it. You can buy this insurance from period of 15 days to 1 year.
Also I heard that some company called Generali Int. is issuing insurances for Vanuatu cars which is valid for whole Europe. You can check that if you like.
There is some confusion here. I have been using frontier insurance (pink card) for years on various vehicles and I appreciate how it works. But no pink card is issued for the EU, they issue a green card at the border and I need a green card to travel out of the EU to get to Serbia at least !
Within the EU (as opposed to crossing one of its borders) you cannot get a green card without first having a basic policy issued by a local company. This is where the problem lays as some countries within the EU will not allow their insurance industry to issue insurance against any registration other than that of the issuing country. I was informed that the laws in Austria changed thus eliminating this form of insurance previously issued by ARIS. The UK and others are the same
I have looked at the AMCC documents and now understand them. AMCC have an office at each of the major border crossings - I am sure you have seen them - and on behalf of the government provide the frontier insurance service for those entering Serbia. So the chart that you found is the scale of charges for those who are entering Serbia as visitors. It is not for those who have a car in the country. If you want to get out of Serbia in your car you have to either have a green card which will cover you for several countries, or you have to get a new pink card at every border you cross outside Serbia. But remember, you have to produce evidence of full-time insurance as well as the registration document. Also remember that if you want to import your new car to Serbia and run it on frontier insurance, you will only be covered for the basic third party liability. Not for fire, theft, accident repair etc. etc.
I note your comment about Generali Int, that was also mentioned in a previous posting on this thread but in a historical context. But I will give them a try.
So, if you manage to get the frontier insurance in Belgrade, as opposed to the border, then please let me know. It will not help me get across Europe but will save hassle when I eventually drive into Serbia. I will get my man Nesa to go down and buy one. Otherwise, if you find an insurer willing to issue a full local policy albeit without a green card, then I will also be interested in that route.
hello mish again I checked with few insurance companies and in Serbia you can get one year valid in Serbia only insurance for 600euros for whole year . Insurance is issued by Kopaonik Osiguranje and AMSS . All prices can be found at this link:
I must admit that I have been very busy with other things the past 2 weeks.
This info seems to confirm what we were saying earlier. I found the same in Bosnia and Croatia, local companies will happlily insure for in-country use but with a frontier insurance supplement for travelling across a border and no green card. It may be my last resort as I can use the expensive Dutch company to issue a green card for my drive across Europe from UK. The other Serb companies we have tried have not been helpful at all, but why should I expect them to be, its very minimal business for any company. Its just a shame that our other friend will not publically (or off list) tell us the name of the French company he uses - strange that......
I had written to Generali and not received a response, and then last week in Belgrade I saw a number 2 tram painted in the Generali maroon colour with the logo and the name of a Serbian Generali subsidiary, so that prompted me to follow-up in the next few weeks. Well, you never know.
Perhaps my mind was more on attending the wine festival in Fruska Gora on Saturday - great weather for it wasn't it? A good time was had by all as they say.
Many thanks for taking the care to report back to us, and I will keep you posted on my progress.
http://www.insurancewide.com/motor_i...ional_car.html
"If you live abroad or visit foreign countries often, it can be difficult to arrange satisfactory insurance. Nearly all of the UK's largest motor insurers will not insure their customers if they are abroad for more than 30 days"
Re: Vanuatu car registration?
Linear Mode
