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majiwen · #1 03-19-2007, 06:36 AM

I do agree with you that 95 % of them do not provide service at all. But what about the users. They need the information of the investment and the information of how their money is being operated. It is true that this may cause the bad effects like listed in the first, I believe the good effects is more important than the negative effects.

B4Y3R · #2 03-19-2007, 07:20 AM

I do agree with you that 95 % of them do not provide service at all. But what about the users. They need the information of the investment and the information of how their money is being operated.in terms of bad votes, undermining remarks, ddos attacks and other Interferences, when one of them happened, i think the admin must immediately clarify the facts in public, let the investor learn about the facts and not hidden something as an honest admin.
But at the end, if you are right, you will be able to prove yourself and thus get the respect of the customers. What is important is transparency in dealing with customers and other associated entities. By doing so, you will be able to take your place in the market. It may not be easy, but I believe this is the right way to do it.

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canikizu · #3 03-19-2007, 07:31 AM

It is true that there are lots of monitors that can't judge the hyip site. Because monitors now grow like hyips, and some monitors even give out free listing, and free advertising, too.
But saying that 95% monitors are not provide any good service at all is not true. because every investors always got their own monitors to trust and to collect new hyips in.
So although monitors are kind of useless but the fact that they attract a good number of investors is can't deny.
A hyip without monitors will surely lose a number of investors, and if you don't accept monitors, that is the first thing that you need to expect it coming.
But i think instead of monitors, we can replace it with forum rate, that is more accurate and free

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luckyros · #4 03-19-2007, 07:31 AM

Yes you must make it open to Public. this will eliminate any doubt in people's mind and you can get more members once other people submits their payment info in geniune money making forums such as talkgold.

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AlexaCY · #5 03-19-2007, 10:33 AM

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We are rather outspoken about monitors and we stated that 95% of those so called rating sites do not provide any service at all. Do you think expressing our views in public could have a negative effect on our program in terms of bad votes, undermining remarks, ddos attacks and other Interferences?

I strongly believe that ANY kind of publicity is GOOD publicity. It is prettry fair in other fields, so it may be well appicable to HYIPs

In fact, the worst thing that can figurally kill a HYIP is lack of response from its admins - so my vote is cast for going and expressing your views (AND news) freely on public forums. Having a blog would help tremendously, too - it should increase your investors' confidence and give them opprtunity to keep abreast with the news. It may be a good idea, too, to have forum and/or on different server, so that it could be available even during main site downtime or DDoS wars

As for Monitors, they are by now an integral part of this business system. Too bad, they can't be ignored altogether, even if the info they provide is not true or accurate...

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TTInvest · #6 03-19-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexacy

It may be a good idea, too, to have forum and/or on different server, so that it could be available even during main site downtime or DDoS wars

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No offense but did you visit our site? We have all this in place.

Main Site: http://www.ttinvest.com
Mirror Site: http://www.ttinvest.net
Forum: http://www.ttisupport.net

All three on different servers in different locations

Lou (tti pr & support)

**Tdinoz** · #7 03-19-2007, 10:58 AM

No I think more admins of programs should call attention to monitors shoddy practices. Why worry about bad votes at all, if you are using a few good monitors they will see them for what they are and remove them. I believe most of the monitors are inexperienced in monitoring but very experienced in filling their own pockets. Many if you threw 5 questions at them about the programs they are monitoring would have trouble answering.

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terrly396 · #8 03-19-2007, 01:25 PM

I think that is a definite possibility and you probably will get a few bad votes because of this. I don't see that all hyip monitors will do this only the ones that aren't very good so I wouldn't worry about that anyway. I think is is also good that you care about the public image and what the public thinks.
if you waited till one of them tried something it might look like you have something to hide.

No one will fault you for having your doubts. I personally don't believe there needs to be hundreds of monitors on one site. I think just a few of the top and most respected monitors should be there.

I think short term, those bad things could have an effect, but in the long term, your continued timely payouts, and honesty, would overcome it. If I may also suggest, please keep seeking out the good monitors to use.

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waldocarter · #9 03-19-2007, 02:11 PM

I'm fairly new into these sites, but if something is for sure is that monitors don't guarantee anything. Even if a monitor is honest about their statements, they are also investors like us. And just like us, they can get scammed one time or another and lose their test deposits.
What i mean with this, is that they can be trusted *as much* as a user posting in this forum with proof of their payments... and as a matter of trust, you can beleive it or not, it all depends on you.
As for the possible repercussions of giving bad publicity to monitors, anything is possible since money is involved. The main issue is that truely fake monitors will not only give bad ratings, but will also put their horde of paid posters digging a hole for you to fall.
My best advice would be just to let them in if they want, but never give them bad publicity since they have artificially created a lot of trust in investors and they can get you out of the market if they want to.

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TTInvest · #10 03-19-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by waldocarter

Even if a monitor is honest about their statements, they are also investors like us. And just like us, they can get scammed one time or another and lose their test deposits.

Not quite so, monitors use the program admins funds to "monitor"
their "investment". The monitors do not invest their own funds (there
are maybe 2 or 3 exceptions)
Simply go to a "add program" link of any monitor site and you will
see that the program pays for the "privilege" to be listed and
"monitored".
Some monitors offer higher positions if you increase your "listing
funds"

Lou (tti pr & support)