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I think the thread you are talking about has been erased. Also, why would someone WANT to erase a thread for a legitimate company. If Studio Traffic were safe and had a legitimate business, why isn't it being talked about on CNN or any other media other than internet threads and ads ALL from people looking to expand their own commission base or who are part of the design team themselves.
What I see is this. Simple ECONOMICS. If you can ONLY make 1% per day of any investment you have PURCHASED with ST, then it will take you 100 days JUST to get your original investment back. That means that for 100 days you are earning 0% back on your original investment, then that "investment" would have to have been at least $100 just so you could GET $100 back at the end of that 100 days. I don't know about you but $1.00 per day is pretty lousy pay even to just log on to the site and click Auto Surf. It's just not worth my time. So, for it to be anthing worthwhile the minimum investment membership I'd have to buy would be $10,000 - $15,000. THAT means that after I purchase my non-refundable membeship for $10,000 I'd have to surf everday for 100 days JUST TO GET MY $10K back. If the company happens to fold before then I suppose I'd just be out of $10K, eh? Then to make any money I'd have to keep surfing for the rest of the year. I'd hope the company didn't fold in that time but how am I to know? Who runs the company?
You all would be better to study a publicly traded company or industry and invest your dollars in a good solid company that actually sells a product or service AND whom you can talk to their management or board about their company and direction and possibly even actually visit the place to know it exists.
But outside of that, I still wonder why the threads are being deleted and why there are people out there asking for the threads to be deleted.
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PS. It wasn't until after I had used ST for the second day that I got a WORM VIRUS on my computer that can dismantle your security and even log personal data and send it to an IRC database. This is very disturbing. I don't know how I received the virus but seeing as how I have to allow ST's website an open backdoor to my Firewall so they can tally my webhits, my suspicion is that it got through there.
Pretty much everything you state here aplies to each and every one of the hundreds of online money making programs out there not just ST. Why isn't ST being talked about on CNN? Because it's out of the norm and many people don't believe they are legitimate even though they very well could be.
Why would someone want to erase a thread for a legitimate company in the scam section of a forum? Because it looks bad and the people calling it a scam have no proof and it really isn't. If someone put Meryl Linch (I think they're an investment firm) in this scam thread people would tell the mods to delete that thread too because obviously Meryl Linch isn't a scam. Here's a better question for you 'Why would a legitimate company want to keep a thread about them in the scam section?'. They wouldn't, exactly it doesn't make any sense.
I know many very profitable franchises and business opportunities offered by reputable companies that have been up for 10's of years and have great ratings with the BBB and what not but I never see any of these displayed on CNN or any TV stations for that matter. Your argument here has no meat to it. It is very general and vague and can be applied to a multitude of other programs/companies besides ST.
Sure you have to wait 100 days to get your 10k back but then but 365 days you will have a total of $36,500. Not bad for a years return. I personally have only put in around $600 of my own but now have a $4000 account level that I gained from compounding and I make $200-$250 a month in ref comm. I can now withdraw $1500 every month if I wanted to all because of that small $600 amount.
See you don't understand what this forum is about. People come here because they WANT to risk their money. They want to put it out there on the line for the chance of obtaining greater rewards. You can't do that with a publicly traded company. In ST you can make 3.65x your money in a year. Investing in a publicly traded company may only yield .1x your money in the course of a year. You have no right telling everyone here they'd be better investing in a publicly traded company. They can lose money doing that just as easily plus they know the risks they are getting into and are willing to deal with them for the chance at greater returns.
It's obvious you have no experience with HYIPs or Autosurfs so please refrain from posting your opinion on specific programs, you just make yourself sound stupid.
Pretty much everything you state here aplies to each and every one of the hundreds of online money making programs out there not just ST. Why isn't ST being talked about on CNN? Because it's out of the norm and many people don't believe they are legitimate even though they very well could be.
Why would someone want to erase a thread for a legitimate company in the scam section of a forum? Because it looks bad and the people calling it a scam have no proof and it really isn't. If someone put Meryl Linch (I think they're an investment firm) in this scam thread people would tell the mods to delete that thread too because obviously Meryl Linch isn't a scam. Here's a better question for you 'Why would a legitimate company want to keep a thread about them in the scam section?'. They wouldn't, exactly it doesn't make any sense.
I know many very profitable franchises and business opportunities offered by reputable companies that have been up for 10's of years and have great ratings with the BBB and what not but I never see any of these displayed on CNN or any TV stations for that matter. Your argument here has no meat to it. It is very general and vague and can be applied to a multitude of other programs/companies besides ST.
Sure you have to wait 100 days to get your 10k back but then but 365 days you will have a total of $36,500. Not bad for a years return. I personally have only put in around $600 of my own but now have a $4000 account level that I gained from compounding and I make $200-$250 a month in ref comm. I can now withdraw $1500 every month if I wanted to all because of that small $600 amount.
See you don't understand what this forum is about. People come here because they WANT to risk their money. They want to put it out there on the line for the chance of obtaining greater rewards. You can't do that with a publicly traded company. In ST you can make 3.65x your money in a year. Investing in a publicly traded company may only yield .1x your money in the course of a year. You have no right telling everyone here they'd be better investing in a publicly traded company. They can lose money doing that just as easily plus they know the risks they are getting into and are willing to deal with them for the chance at greater returns.
It's obvious you have no experience with HYIPs or Autosurfs so please refrain from posting your opinion on specific programs, you just make yourself sound stupid.
Well, as far as I can see it is a Ponzi scheme (see Carlo "Charles" Ponzi. cir. 1920) Especially now that if you don't recruit new investors after you have earned back your original investment they'll STOP you from surfing; Ie. Stop you from earning.
Economics again points to the company simply needing new money to keep paying old investors. I'm glad those of you who were foolish enough to put money in more than 100 days ago are still being paid. Many people from Ponzi's time made money, also. But over 10,000 people LOST money in the end. But by simple definition of Ponzi, only time will prove or disprove if it is/isn't a Ponzi. Perhaps I'm just too conservative to trust it. If it even LOOKS illegal I'm going to stay away from it.
If you guys who like to hackle my responses didn't have a stake in ST or other HYIP's I might could give you some credit in your posts.
Well, as far as I can see it is a Ponzi scheme (see Carlo "Charles" Ponzi. cir. 1920) Especially now that if you don't recruit new investors after you have earned back your original investment they'll STOP you from surfing; Ie. Stop you from earning.
Economics again points to the company simply needing new money to keep paying old investors. I'm glad those of you who were foolish enough to put money in more than 100 days ago are still being paid. Many people from Ponzi's time made money, also. But over 10,000 people LOST money in the end. But by simple definition of Ponzi, only time will prove or disprove if it is/isn't a Ponzi. Perhaps I'm just too conservative to trust it. If it even LOOKS illegal I'm going to stay away from it.
If you guys who like to hackle my responses didn't have a stake in ST or other HYIP's I might could give you some credit in your posts.
Once again you're posting on the completely wrong forum. EVERYONE here understands that virtually all of these programs are fully or at least partly a ponzi scheme. We're more than willing to risk that and for some it pays off huge, others of course lose everything.
This is essentially a varied form of gambling. So unless you consider every single gambler on the face of this planet foolish (there are easily millions) then you have no grounds for which to call us foolish. In your eyes it might appear foolish because like I said you have absolutely no understanding of the HYIP/autosurf world. For me personally I treat it exactly like I would if I were in a casino and yes it can be rather entertaining and exciting sometimes just as if I had laid money down on roulette. I only play with money I can afford to lose and am willing to accept it may just disappear one day and I would have no regrets because it was simply play/entertainment money. There's nothing foolish about this at all.
Now, as for your comment directed at ST. This is exactly why I warned you to not to post about specific programs and yes you just made yourself sound stupid again because what you have stated there is completely false.
ST will stop you from surfing once you've made back your initial money only if you don't opt to contribute 20% of your future earnings for 6 months to their advertising fund AND you choose not to participate and help out ST in any way. Them stopping surfing services has nothing to do with whether you recruit new members or not.
ST has stated they'd like to see people doing things so that they justify their earnings. This has been an extremely smart move on ST's part because it has effectivly brought a lot of volunteers out of the wordwork who are willing to help out ST in other ways simply than just by giving 20% of their earnings back.
Well I of course do have a stake in ST but as you can see I don't post my referral link in my sig like many others do. I do this so that my posts can be taken more seriously. I don't see how me having a stake in ST would discredit anything I've said here.
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Thanks for again enlightening me about HYIP's. I'm not intending to stab at ST. My main concern is the legality of this type of business. ST is incorporated in Panama. Perhaps financial laws are different there and that would make their business legitimate in their country. As far as I am aware, Ponzi's are illegal in the States. This may have no bearing.
It's good to have someone educate me about HYIP's. I too thought it looked like a great big gamble. It just seems like there are probably many people out there who would like to be and should be fully informed about risking their money. If it's gambling, maybe HYIP's could state that. You are the first person who I've ever heard talk about HYIP's as a high risk investment and a roullette table all in one. I suppose that would sum it up and really helps me decide whether or not to bet any chips. I think the big difference in gambling and these HYIP's would be that Casino's pay out instantly if you win. ST takes 100 days to pay.
That seems like a much bigger risk.
FYI- I have received positive responses from my posts from people who seemed to be thankful I have thought so deeply about this business.
Because, while some may believe it is a scam, it currently is still paying it's members. Until it stops paying all it's members, in my view, it isn't a scam.
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