[lubo]

Originally Posted by SportNet

Thanks for the heads up,anyone here tried cash-master?

http://www.cash-master.com/index.html

Wondering if there is any hope there or similar scam?

Considering joining it since the fee seems at least more reasonable ,yet
not sure any proof anywhere to support their claims,will appreciate if anyone could share some info.

Hi Sportnet, don't waste your money on cash-master.It's just the same as sure 2 profit a loss recovery system which is doomed to failure & the total wipe out of your bank.
I definitely agree with Gigity the only way to win at this game is to get a good laying service of which there are not many around.I know of only 1 which I'm using at the moment & although the lay prices are quite high the strike rate is something like 95% which is fantastic.The last run was 41 successful lays which ended with the next horse winning at 6.0 on BF.

[Teitan]

Originally Posted by lubo

Hi Sportnet, don't waste your money on cash-master.It's just the same as sure 2 profit a loss recovery system which is doomed to failure & the total wipe out of your bank.
I definitely agree with Gigity the only way to win at this game is to get a good laying service of which there are not many around.I know of only 1 which I'm using at the moment & although the lay prices are quite high the strike rate is something like 95% which is fantastic.The last run was 41 successful lays which ended with the next horse winning at 6.0 on BF.

What's the name of that laying service. I'm interested.

[king254]

I am again saying that Sure2Profit is a DAMN SCAM and if you are a newbie then please don't fell into such type of scam. Any system which bets on progressive stakes wouldn't let you go anywhere. I have learned from my betting carrier that
chasing losses is a loser's game.

www.profithorsebetting.com

[LosingHorsespro]

S2P Scam?? Well I would not go that far, if you are thinking of betting after a 5 in a row losing without stopping and using the recovering system you will lose your whole bankroll!!

Like all betting you need to know when to stop and recover losing runs, but S2P is not proofed so I would not touch it.

[lubo]

Originally Posted by LosingHorsespro

S2P Scam?? Well I would not go that far, if you are thinking of betting after a 5 in a row losing without stopping and using the recovering system you will lose your whole bankroll!!

Like all betting you need to know when to stop and recover losing runs, but S2P is not proofed so I would not touch it.

Well of course it's a fecking scam.The guy claims a 52% plus strike rate which is absolute shite.I had a run of 18 losers on the trot.My bank went bust after 7 short priced losers.I stopped at 18 because my subscription ran out & I wasn't paying another month for more losers so I don't know what the final number was.

[LosingHorsespro]

Shocking, well I knew the old tipster before Anthony who runs his own website because he had enough of the people running the S2P site and false results. I used it then and was a different system as now, the system did cover 3-5 horses a race and then stop if 2-3 losers in a row and use the safe bets.

But when the tipster left and this Anthony came in I was gone, plus it was costing me £27 a month not £47!!

[Teitan]

I thought I'd post my last email to the Sure2Profit Webmaster, Antonio Giacca, for some entertainment. BTW the website http://betfairsoftware.co.uk is registered in Mr. Giacca's name. This is the site where Sure2Profit finds other victims via its Betmechanic product. Let me introduce you to Mr. Giacca as he seems to figure prominently within the Sure2Profit organization. Check out his other websites. See if you can find John Madisa who is also connected to Sure2Profit.

http://www.myspace.com/ipnhos
http://www.ipnhos.com/
http://www.petrafied.fm/terms.html
http://www.petrafied.co.uk

Concerning the Betmechanic product an Internet search yielded the following info. about http://betmechanic.co.uk, another promotional website:

Registrant:
David Halstead

Registrant's address:
29 Cole Park Road
Twickenham
TW1 1HS
GB

What's interesting about the above address is that it's used by numerous companies as a mail drop. Go to http://www.simplycreditreports.com/c.../03720551.html to look for yourself. Workplace Automation Limited is David Halstead's company.
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Now for my email to Mr Giacca:


Quote from www.racingprofits4u.com which was retrieved via Waybackmachine at www.archive.org for July 18 2007:

“Roy's Calculator has been very successful whenever I feel like playing the horses here in Australia or in the UK. I highly recommend Racing Profits 4 u to anyone looking to generate either significant profits or even just a bit of extra pocket money."
Steven Neville from Sydney – Australia

Sure2Profit website quotes:

"These are some of the testimonials received for the month of November 2007 [emphasis mine]:"

"The Sure2Profit Calculator developed by the Sure2Profit team has also been very successful whenever I feel like playing the horses here in Australia or in the UK when following the membership selections. I highly recommend Sure2Profit to anyone looking to generate either significant profits or even just a bit of extra 'pocket money'."

Note that I put in bold the changes that were made to the original quote directly above.

Here's some more:

November 3 2006: "...super expert Roy Cuddihy...Roy has been making a life of luxury out of his Betting Strategies since 1997..."

November 7 2006: "...super expert John Anthony... John has been making a life of luxury out of his Betting Systems since 1998..."

Need I go on? John Anthony, the 'super expert' no one else seems to know, just inserted his name in place of Roy Cuddihy in addition to a few changes of his own. Yes...I'm aware there's some controversy between Mr. Cuddihy and Mr. Anthony.

Oh...I also found it interesting that you used a friend, who is obviously affiliated with Sure2Profit, to give you a testimonial. How biased is that? I'm speaking of John Madisa (aka DJ Keez), who appears on Sure2Profit and who also appears in a photo with you on your DJ site. As for what you said about having "...very happy subscribers who been with us for years now..." I would refrain from advertizing this as it's not true since the business belonged to Roy Cuddihy first and from what I understand business was more honest in those days.

I'm sure I'll find some more interesting info. when I dig a little deeper into your operation. What I have found so far proves that you, and those associated with you, are dishonest liars. You can count on me to write a nasty review of your scam business. You may prosper off of your ill-gotten gains for now but your notoriety will catch up to you one day. You've cheated me so now I'll return the favour. One more thing. You can tell David Halstead that if he values his FCA designation he'll get as far away from people like you or I'll make sure that the organization that awarded him his FCA will become aware of his association with a scam.

[lubo]

Excellent stuff Teitan.The guy is a low down crook & must be exposed to everybody.

[Teitan]

Here's Antony Giacca's response to my last email:



"Why on earth are we “dishonest liars”? That we know each other is no secret, there is testimonials with the names on both sides so it’s not like we are trying to run some “secret” operation. Whoever gets involved with us – and that can be friends or ex customers turned friends – can leave testimonial as they use the system, what is wrong with that?!? Isn’t that something normal that everybody does?



And, to make things clear, Sure2Profit.com is the ORIGINAL of ALL the material that you find 2 copies on the Internet as I am the webmaster who has put the site together back then NOT the Racing Profits 4U, which has been put together less than 1 year ago, after we have split from Mr.Cuddihy because we weren’t happy with the overall performance. The only reason why the testimonials title page says November is because there is a script showing the current month, as new testiomonials are added on a monthly basis.



Also, where is it that you got “scammed”, can you explain what “scam” you have experienced from us or David’s website as I really don’t get why you are suddenly using this term and I don’t appreciate it. You say “you have cheaten me”, what do you mean by that?



Warmest Regards,"

Hmmm....let's see. Conflict of interest and misrepresentation come to mind when I think of Sure2Profit. The system should be called Sure2Lose with Buttmechanic as its 'butt bot' buggering all the unwary 'investors' out of their money.

[king254]

Thanx Teitan to expose these scammers. But I wonder that why the hell they dont write that their software is just a martingle calculator before selling it to innocent punters.

They are just targeting unawared punters who don't know about their scam. It's a greatest scam in the horse betting industry and still continue to suck people out of their hard earned money.