Invest4Games - invest4games.com

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Real-time Statistics
Total accounts 814
Total VIP accounts 5
Active accounts 294
Total deposits 2056
Total deposited $91188.41
Total payouts $66457.40
Today new accounts 8
Today new deposits 76
Today deposited $4630.16
Today's payouts 5
Today's payouts amount $283.26
This nice program approaches 100K, congratulations to the admin and all those who trust in him!

[Aruja]

Originally Posted by Grin01

From invest4games terms:
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My problem has nothing to do with payouts on sundays. It has to do with an e-mail from admin that he will not pay me my $79.20 unless I invest $39 first.

Originally Posted by Invest4Games

Do you know Terms? Contact me via web-site contact form first! Read the Terms VERY CAREFULLY FIRST before post on public forums!

Discussion closed.

Not closed! I am upset because I have been investing here from the start and I do not think it fair. I have read all your term, I have a screen shot of it. If the conditions have changed then you have not updated your terms to show the change. I read it again and again. It says nothing about me not able to withdraw the funds from my mature investment if I don't re-invest. I have always withdraw THEN re-invest. Money not in your pocket is not money earned!

I have contacted you via e-mail already and you are not explaining it so it makes sense! I don't expect the payout today because it's Sunday but I am watching to see what you do because I need answers and I did not get it from the e-mail you sent me. I am not saying you are bad, I am just saying be clear with me why you said what you said!

[Invest4Games]

According p 6. of our Terms:

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6. We reserve the right to change the rules, commissions and rates of the program at any time and at our sole discretion without notice, especially in order to respect the integrity and security of the members' interests. You agree that it is your sole responsibility to review the current Terms.
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Old p. 5 :

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5. You agree to hold all principals and members harmless of any liability. You are investing at your own risk and you agree that a past performance is not an explicit guarantee for the same future performance. You agree that all information, communications and materials you will find on this web-site are intended to be regarded as an informational and educational matter and not an investment advice. You agree what you can request payouts on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. No payouts on Sunday. You agree that you can requests only 2 payouts per day. You agree that the total amount of all your active deposits can't be more than US$500 (per account).
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New p. 5 :

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5. You agree to hold all principals and members harmless of any liability. You are investing at your own risk and you agree that a past performance is not an explicit guarantee for the same future performance. You agree that all information, communications and materials you will find on this web-site are intended to be regarded as an informational and educational matter and not an investment advice. You agree what you can request payouts on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. No payouts on Sunday. You agree that you can requests only 2 payouts per day. You agree that you can request payout = 50% from your total amount of active deposits. You agree that the total amount of all your active deposits can't be more than US$500 (per account).
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I be honest. I do best as I can to keep this program for a long time. I begin to fight with "hit-n-runner" ("hit-n-hunter") practice.

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Why? What is "hit-n-runner" ("hit-n-hunter") practice?

This practice when one member request a big amount. After payout has been received the member never invest again. This situation good for member, but not for stability of Invest4Games.com web-site.
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Invest4Games.com web-site can send big amounts with no problems, but only for loyal and honest members which always invest back a part of received money. I hope you understand me. I want to keep Invest4Games.com web-site for a long time. I want to give a chance to earn good profit for you and for other members.

Please, support my decision.

Thank you for attention.

[sunnysunnys]

nearly 100K deposit...good admin..good site..good tg..good investors and good smile dogs...

[Grin01]

I'm OK with the new rule, because I intended to keep my deposit in the program anyway and just cashout the %. Hope others do the same.

[SergeyII]

I agree for new rules. Thank admin. Hope your project will be very long

[thanhtungtnt]

I don't have enough money to invest any more. So, I can not request payout. Please, I am a newbie , so I haven't many money to play HYIP. I invested all my money on invest4games. Please , help me to request payout, admin. My user ID is 133. I only have 3$ in e-gold. But I need to request payout 3.27$ . So, please pay me , admin.

[barman48]

Ok... Let's see if i understood well...

The way i see it. There is just 2 ways to interpret it and it can be only one of the two:

1- I have an expired deposit of 500$ plan B (500$ initial + 100$ interest) = 600$.
So i can withdraw right now 250$ (50% of initial deposit ) Because i had 500$ invested.

If it is that, then i have no problem with that. I even encourage it. At least to test it.

2- I have an expired deposit of 500$ plan B (500$ initial + 100$ interest) = 600$.
I can't withdraw anything because my active deposit are none. (because my 500$ is expired...)
So to withdraw, i would have to invest again BEFORE withdrawing (to have an active deposit.)
If it is that then... i will never do that and no ones sane will.

Because to withdraw, i would have to invest again let's say... 500$ ( another 500$, the max) who would gives me the right to withdraw 250$ (50% of my NOW active deposit) of my last expired deposit of 600$. And the 350$ remaining of that 600$ is lost to hell. Because we can't invest more than 500$ total and can't withdraw it either. So the more you invest to withdraw, the more you lose. Because you have to invest 1000$ for each 250$ you want to withdraw ($500 for the expired and $500 for the new active).

So no matter how much money you have invested and how much time you hit the "reinvest" button, you are doomed to one day have to invest the double of the expired amout to withdraw it. That without taken in account the max 500$ limit.

So i really hope it's the first one because, at that condition, i am willing to withdraw only 250$ and reinvest the rest. Even just take my 100$ profit and reinvest the whole 500$. But to invest ANOTHER 500$ (total 1000$ with the expired one) just to have the right to withdraw 250$. There is no way i will ever do that. And no ones will.

So please, admin, confirm that it is really the first interpretation that is correct (the only one that makes sense...) Because IF it is the second interpretation that is correct, then, I am afraid i will have to say that this hyip is now dead for cause of cutting his own head.

Or maybe you just wanted to have the advantages and results of the first method but made the mistake of implementing the second... If it is that then you should correct it ASAP for the sake of the program.

[Invest4Games]

Originally Posted by barman48

Ok... Let's see if i understood well...

The way i see it. There is just 2 ways to interpret it and it can be only one of the two:

1- I have an expired deposit of 500$ plan B (500$ initial + 100$ interest) = 600$.
So i can withdraw right now 250$ (50% of initial deposit ) Because i had 500$ invested.

If it is that, then i have no problem with that. I even encourage it. At least to test it.

2- I have an expired deposit of 500$ plan B (500$ initial + 100$ interest) = 600$.
I can't withdraw anything because my active deposit are none. (because my 500$ is expired...)
So to withdraw, i would have to invest again BEFORE withdrawing (to have an active deposit.)
If it is that then... i will never do that and no ones sane will.

Because to withdraw, i would have to invest again let's say... 500$ ( another 500$, the max) who would gives me the right to withdraw 250$ (50% of my NOW active deposit) of my last expired deposit of 600$. And the 350$ remaining of that 600$ is lost to hell. Because we can't invest more than 500$ total and can't withdraw it either. So the more you invest to withdraw, the more you lose. Because you have to invest 1000$ for each 250$ you want to withdraw ($500 for the expired and $500 for the new active).

So no matter how much money you have invested and how much time you hit the "reinvest" button, you are doomed to one day have to invest the double of the expired amout to withdraw it. That without taken in account the max 500$ limit.

So i really hope it's the first one because, at that condition, i am willing to withdraw only 250$ and reinvest the rest. Even just take my 100$ profit and reinvest the whole 500$. But to invest ANOTHER 500$ (total 1000$ with the expired one) just to have the right to withdraw 250$. There is no way i will ever do that. And no ones will.

So please, admin, confirm that it is really the first interpretation that is correct (the only one that makes sense...) Because IF it is the second interpretation that is correct, then, I am afraid i will have to say that this hyip is now dead for cause of cutting his own head.

Or maybe you just wanted to have the advantages and results of the first method but made the mistake of implementing the second... If it is that then you should correct it ASAP for the sake of the program.

Ok. I think you see in your account something like this:

According our new Terms (exclude monitors), you can request payout of EXPIRED deposit if payout amount for this deposit is equal or less than 50% from your total amount of active deposits : US$0.00 (50% from active deposits) - US$0.00 (pending/requested) = US$0.00

You have one EXPIRED deposit of US$600.00, right?

Unfortunately new rules is not comfortable for big investors, who have EXPIRED deposit with big amount. I be honest. I understand it.

According new rules you need to invest US$1200 to withdraw US$600 .

According our new Terms (exclude monitors), you can request payout of EXPIRED deposit if payout amount for this deposit is equal or less than 50% from your total amount of active deposits : US$1200.00 (50% from active deposits) - US$0.00 (pending/requested) = US$600.00

I KNOW IT'S NOT GOOD, BUT I HAVE DECISION FOR THIS SITUATION!

I can split your EXPIRED deposit: US$100 + US$100 + US$100 + US$100 + US$100 + US$100 (for example), so now you can withdraw your money by using amount of US$100 - US$200 for every new deposit.

[barman48]

Originally Posted by Invest4Games

Ok. I think you see in your account something like this:

According our new Terms (exclude monitors), you can request payout of EXPIRED deposit if payout amount for this deposit is equal or less than 50% from your total amount of active deposits : US$0.00 (50% from active deposits) - US$0.00 (pending/requested) = US$0.00

You have one EXPIRED deposit of US$600.00, right?

Unfortunately new rules is not comfortable for big investors, who have EXPIRED deposit with big amount. I be honest. I understand it.

According new rules you need to invest US$1200 to withdraw US$600 .

According our new Terms (exclude monitors), you can request payout of EXPIRED deposit if payout amount for this deposit is equal or less than 50% from your total amount of active deposits : US$1200.00 (50% from active deposits) - US$0.00 (pending/requested) = US$600.00

I KNOW IT'S NOT GOOD, BUT I HAVE DECISION FOR THIS SITUATION!

I can split your EXPIRED deposit: US$100 + US$100 + US$100 + US$100 + US$100 + US$100 (for example), so now you can withdraw your money by using amount of US$100 - US$200 for every new deposit.

Hello Admin, thanks for answering me,

I am glad that you try to find a solution but i am afraid to say that the fact remain... Because even by splitting the amount ( 6x 100$ in your example) i don't make any money at all. And no investors will. And we must not forget that it's the goal of being an investors: To make money.

And even by splitting the amount in 6, it doens matter if it is 600$ or just 100$. The fact remains that to be able to withdraw 100$ (or even just 1$), any investors have to invest 200$ ( or even just 2$). And when you have 200$ expired (or 2$) Then you need 400$ (or 4$) and so on and on... As you can see, it doest even matter if the amount is big or not. Splitted or not. It's a loss as an investment no matter what.

Except for you of course... You would make always the double of the last payment no matter what untill the person realise it and cut her loses by stopping investing to withdraw. I surely hope you don't want to do that volontarily.

So any investors is sure to lose. Where is the gain in that? So where is the advantages for us investors to get an interest rate of -100% (yes minus sign...) for any amount invested?

I know that you want to find ways to extend the life of your program and i can understand that. But to ask everybody the double of any expired amount to be able to withdraw it. It's well... sorry but there is no other word, scamming people.

If you would have told us that you wanted to keep half of the original investment to force people to keep investing at least always half of their last expired investment, with always the freedom of adding to it by themselves then i would have approved you 100% and that surely would have help you in keeping a good amount of money rolling in your program. As an example, i would have withdraw 250$ of my 600$ expired and probably would have reinvested 150$, in addition of the 350$ remaining in the program. Just to keep my total of 500$ running.

But, i repeat again, NOT just keeping 1/2 of it but, INSTEAD, asking for the DOUBLE is incredible. I can't even beleive that anyone will invest under those conditions. It's not even called investing anymore, it's called giving you money for nothing.

I hope you realise that yourself.