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CRIMINAL INTENDS, FRAUD, DECEPTION, NAME IT WHAT YOU WILL.....!!!

At the risk of being crucified/banned from Hyip Monitors I would like to make my small contribution of my ever deepening 'disappointment' since having become, in a small way, involved with Hyips.

Obviously I am not in any way inferring to MoneyMakerGroup nor TalkGold Hyip Monitoring Programming. I'm simply using these unbiased forums as a hopefully productive medium to pointing out the pros and cons of other Hyip Monitoring sites which I've tried, tested and have now listed under my heading of not do's - but definitely don'ts...unless your keen to throw your money to the wind.

Admittedly not all HYIPS are fraught with criminal intent and there are still a few honest to goodness programs on the Net. Unfortunately you may need to wade your way knee deep trudging into the 'sludge of scams' to hopefully discover those that do pay out their supportive punters and make up for the losses incurred over time.

However,anyone contemplating signing up with any HYIPS - especially those listed on the
www.allnewhyip.com site ................................

may well regret doing so in the long run.

One Hyip they promote in particular which is in question is:

www.real-onlineforex.com

Despite it being listed as a 'PAYING' site, as are several others there which do not pay out ever, proves furthest from the reality. To give you a clearer example this is a copy of several mails during my interaction with their Admin (Mr. Mikael Robinho). Ofcourse one must never assume that their names are genuine, as they are mostly made up pseudonyms to encourage a first name basis trust in punters.

AnOther Hyip in question is www.acetransaction.com - Invested $45 and made $247 profit basic inclusive. I am still in pending withdrawal and have yet to see action to be paid.

They also do Exchanging from one money processor to another. I tried to exchange $45 from Alertpay to LibertyReserve and saw no action. This was some weeks ago and I am yet to see my money back. In my view this is extreme fraud.

Recently I invested a small testing amount for a 4 days plan of $45 at

www.real-onlineforex.com.

Some weeks later after several DOSS attacks apparently suffered by the site (according to them - but always feels it is a great tactic to stalling payouts) I got the confirmation that payment had been made to my LibertyReserve account. I didn't feel confident that I would see any deposits made.

My suspicions were proved right - as this has been mostly my experience with Hyips in general - that they never do pay out. The following is a copy of my interaction with Admin:

> Hello Emerantia Parnall-Gilbert.
>
> $99.00 has been successfully sent to your LibertyReserve account n/a.
> Transaction batch is n/a.
>
> Real-onlineforex.com
> http://www.real-onlineforex.com
>
>
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> regards
>
> http://www.real-onlineforex.com
>
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http://www.real-onlineforex.com

To this I replied as follows:

> Hello Mikael Robinho
> Enclosed in the attachment shows that my last transaction was on 2nd
> September, 2008 and no further deposits have been made by you on the 11th September.
> I have not received the funds from you todate despite the confirmation
> email below.
> I have found this to be a problem with most Hyips i've tried, and I hope
> that you can look into it for me, sothat I can continue supporting you
> with marketing and promos.
>
> Please check it out! I would be most grateful.
>
> Emerantia
> ID:
>
> --- On Thu, 11/9/08, admin@real-onlineforex.com
> <admin@real-onlineforex.com> wrote:
> From: admin@real-onlineforex.com <admin@real-onlineforex.com>
> Subject: Withdrawal has been sent via Real-onlineforex.com
> To: emerantia_parnallgilbert@yahoo.com.au
> Received: Thursday, 11 September, 2008, 3:04 AM
>

Followed by this reply from their Admin:

Flag this message
Re: Withdrawal has been sent via Real-onlineforex.com - Attached Liberty Reserve Account Transactions
Tuesday, 16 September, 2008 1:12 PM
From:
"Admin Of Libertyreserve" <admin@libertyreserve.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"Emerantia Parnall-Gilbert" <emerantia_parnallgilbert@yahoo.com.au>
Are you VIP member?you must pay fee of VIP membership then you can
withdraw all of your profit.
it costs 50$,transfer it as soon as possible
then inform us we will pay all of your profit and your money
keep your working with us
regards.
http://www.real-onlineforex.com


I am now asking all punters have they ever experienced something like this in the past with Hyips? Payout promises that never arrive?
Now, it also turns out that one needs to be a VIP member (Fee $50) in order to get paid?

This is not stipulated in the FAQ, RULES or otherwise when registering with HYIPS.

I call this ENTRAPMENT with criminal intent!

I have found also that they have a nerve to infiltrate people's IM MESSENGERS under the guise of 'Open Trust' to keep marketing their deceptive wares. To trap unsuspecting and naive newcomers to the internet especially to sign up!
They are also relentless in their assault on your privacy by continually and incessantly ecouraging one to keep on investing your hard earned cash by sending IM Messages but not allowing you to comments before they quickly disappear and clock off.

They want our money and promise people the moon and the sun! But they are loathe to paying up people's dues. Isn't successful programming a two way street in order for it to flourish? They also use their Rules and Terms ambiguously - that there is no guarantee. Isn't that just simply loud and clear enough that in fact you will never see your money back?

I've come to the conclusion that these Hyips in particular are criminal and dishonest and only now after having lost many hundreds over time I feel I should at least warn people that are keen to make some extra money the easy way. There is no easy way!

Hope that this will help some of you to THINK hard before virtually throwing your money straight into the garbage bin of elusive hope!

Best wishes
Emerantia