Maybe we here at TG have played into Marsden's hands. We all know how cult like these HYIPS can become. By providing them with someone to hate we may have allowed Marsden to direct their anomosity toward us here at TG and divert attention away from the real issues which are:
1. Why no bank will do business with what is claiming to be a billion dollar business.
2. Why the jurisdictions in which Marsden claims to be licensed for trading deny that he holds a license.
3. Why PIC Trust claims to have a suite of offices in Auckland when the address provided is just a mailbox in a Mailboxes Etc. location.
4. Why Speedywallet shut him down because there was no money in his account.
5. Why is he six months behind paying his members.
6. What happened to the bank he was going to open in Cambodia. (7 men were arrested there this weekend for executing a Canadian Toddler, A Disgusting Act!) It is Not a stable country and not one most legitimate international businesses would chose in the 1st place.
7. Why have so many states and countries issued cease and desist orders when he claims on his information site to be properly licensed in all states before conducting business there.
8. Why does Marsden claim that he can't find a bank that can handle the volume when anybody who has a bank account knows that almost any bank can handle the volume x ten.
There are far too many inconsistencies to go unchallenged and to date no answers have been provided. The scripted response has been "why should we pipsters answer you, it is none of your business".
That is an unacceptable response from a company that is offering a $450 share which pips likes to call a loan from members. Most companies use the term ROI (Return on Investment) PIPS uses the term ROL (Return on Loan) the authorities make no distinction.
Maybe we here at TG have played into Marsden's hands. We all know how cult like these HYIPS can become. By providing them with someone to hate we may have allowed Marsden to direct their anomosity toward us here at TG and divert attention away from the real issues which are:.
I made that point some while ago. It's a scam, so all everybody did with the phone calls, the posting of contact info, the whipping into a rabid frenzy, was make it all TG's fault in the eyes of the faithful. The scam should have been allowed to unfold and collapse on it's own. Now the waters have been muddied.
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This isn't about opinions this is about some idiot posting a complete lie in your Forum. This is a defamation of character. When you add all the other dribble that has been allowed to be written here do you really think that Bryan could expect a sensible discussion with the person who is allowing it to happen.
You should be honoured that Bryan even addressed this dribble. I am sure Bryan has plenty to do and is a very busy man but when some idiot makes a completely false personal attack on you sometimes you can't just look the other way. I'm suprised he was so polite in his comments as I know if it was me I wouldn't have been.
This isn't about opinions this is about some idiot posting a complete lie in your Forum. This is a defamation of character. When you add all the other dribble that has been allowed to be written here do you really think that Bryan could expect a sensible discussion with the person who is allowing it to happen.
You should be honoured that Bryan even addressed this dribble. I am sure Bryan has plenty to do and is a very busy man but when some idiot makes a completely false personal attack on you sometimes you can't just look the other way. I'm suprised he was so polite in his comments as I know if it was me I wouldn't have been.
ooooh, what would u do? Stomp on the floor and say bad words?
The chest-thumping in this thread is almost as bad as PIPS being out of money. It's as lame as the safelist Mr. Guru Marsden used to run for a few weeks until it also ran out of money.
If Marsden feels like his lack of character has been defamed, let him do something about it. I'd like Marsden to file some suits against people so it would be easier to locate him and come talk to him about all these loans he's defaulted on including 6 withdrawals he owes me.
Marsden: man of words and not action. He's a free target at this point to say anything about as he's not going to be pursuing legal action against anyone, he's having too many parties right now to bother! He's got t-bones and beer being served!
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This isn't about opinions this is about some idiot posting a complete lie in your Forum. This is a defamation of character. When you add all the other dribble that has been allowed to be written here do you really think that Bryan could expect a sensible discussion with the person who is allowing it to happen.
You should be honoured that Bryan even addressed this dribble. I am sure Bryan has plenty to do and is a very busy man but when some idiot makes a completely false personal attack on you sometimes you can't just look the other way. I'm suprised he was so polite in his comments as I know if it was me I wouldn't have been.
It looks like your brainwashing session could be declared 100% successful. I don't feel at all honored that Marsden addressed any issue because simply put he hasn't.
He hasn't explained why he claims to have gold reserves stored in Australia and Australia has called PIPS an out and out scam.
He hasn't explained how the address he provided for a suite of offices leads to a mailbox in a Mailboxes Etc. Franschise.
He hasn't explained why HSBC dropped him like a hot potato.
He hasn't explained why no other bank will accept him as a client.
He hasn't explained why banks can only process a dozen transactions a day for him but they can process tens of thousands transacrions a day for all other clients.
He hasn't explained why his Speedywallet Account was empty.
He hasn't explained why the Cambodain Banking Authority has no record of his banking application which he claims is soon to open.
He hasn't explained why he owes his lenders six months payments and is making no progress on catching up.
He must have let loose in your eyes because you are definitely blind.
honored? do you get that we think that bryan is a scammer - bryan doesn't have _any_ honor.
he makes up extraordinary claims and backs them up with thin air.
kpaddle, you could add to that list the question 'where is picpays gold?'
because indeed, where is picpays gold? theres 10+ lies that any single one would be enough to expose the house of cards bryan has built.
here's some bs from picpay's site.
"The Pureinvestor.com Inc Company which is the legal owner of Picpay.com is a registered legal corporate entity of Labuan Malaysia. Current offices are located in Labuan, Nilai and Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. New offices are being opened in Hong Kong, New York, London and Berlin during 2004." lies lies lies - that are currently on the site to boot.
There is NO hiding here.. just fly your pansy ass to Malaysia and visit..YOU will locate him fast enough.. people who have nothing to hide.. don't have to hide.. get it?
But none of you have the balls to confront him in person.. you hide behind this forum and spread filth and lies about a company trying to do something good in this world.. unlike you fishbait that sits on your high horse and judges everyone else.
Get a life.
We will carry on with or without your steaming crap about our program, ceo, and future.
Now find some other program to lash out at.. cause we are MOVING ON>> WITHOUT YOU!!!!
And by the way Brian from TG.. it's called slander and there are laws about that.
So I dont know what the big mystery is here. Your open letter to Bryan seems about as amaturish as the members posting here. Sorry but in all due respect.. STAY out of it. If you are a professional.. contact Mr. Marsden and have a gentleman to gentleman conversation.. and yes.. I believe you are both gentlemen.
To all you flame throwers.. before you respond.. check yourself for vermin, as it is truly attached to your body, soul, and spirit..
Now go on.. go cry to your Mommies about how the world ain't fair.
Actually it would be Libel not slander since slander has to be spoken words. However it's not libel either. Trust me on this one. Unless PIPs was registered in the US, they have no legal rights whatsoever to pursue any type of libel lawcase against anyone in the US. Deformation of character? Again no legal rights on Bryans part unless PIPs was registered in the US. Not only is it not registered in the US, but the US government, and several state government call PIPs a Scam. If Bryan tried to hire lawyers they'd first say, "but it's obvious that your program is a Ponzi", and then they'd laugh in his face.
I said this before but what you are saying is that if PIPS has a case against Talkgold, that would mean that Enron has a case against the New York Times for the articles that they wrote on how Enron defrauded and mislead their investors and employees. It's a joke. Read up on the law. Even if Bryan had a case (which he doesn't), he'd have to provide all the records or trades that he has made, and these are non existant!
Just for those of you who are crazy and believe that Bryan has a case:
From a law website:
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Can libel suits be brought by a public figure?
These suits are a bit dicer for the public figure.
A public figure may be an elected or appointed (a politician) or someone who has stepped into a public controversy (e.g., movie stars and TV stars, star athletes). Public figures have a "harder road to toll" than the average person since they must prove that the party defaming them knew the statements were false, made them with actual malice, or was negligent in saying or writing them. Proving these elements makes the chance of a successful lawsuit slim.
Bryan would definetly be considered a public figure in any case he'd pursue. Since he'd have to prove that those defaming him knew that their statements were false. It's quite obvious that people are not defaming Bryan to hurt PIPs, but instead defaming him because they truly believe that PIPs is a scam, thus again there would be absolutely no case. Bryan has never posted any real information of any of his trades, records, etc, thus he couldn't even claim that the people defaming him knew his program was real. No one knows if it's real or not!!
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