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Old 04-21-2009, 01:03 PM
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Free to register,

Anyone hear of this one yet, launches today, filled with VALUE for sure, if they come through, still a mystery as to who is behind it, so anyone have the scoop on this new deal yet?

Another free to register deal, so little to no risk if you use a throw away email, so if anyone finds out who is behind it before I do, let me know. Doors open today, and with all the benefits being promoted to join, it is worth a look as I research them all.

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Old 04-22-2009, 12:55 PM
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looks like the con man phil picolo is prt of this scam. i have sen it said round the net
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Old 04-22-2009, 01:06 PM
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looks like the con man phil picolo is prt of this scam. i have sen it said round the net
Little doubt that it's him....EVERYONE should avoid Phil Picolo like the plague...
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Time for doing your DD is B4 you part with your cash and NOT after finding out you've been scammed
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:06 PM
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Amazing,

Yes, you are correct, he was on first call stating he was master affiliate, whatever that means, but I was told he does not own nor has any position with company. You have to wonder, how does he always seem to get positioned at top of so many new programs. lol As with WFL, he was there, then gone, so I suspect he sells his list to these companies who were not in the industry before, so they do not know his wonderful reputation. lol

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i think you can tell more information ..let me konw it
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i think you can tell more information ..let me konw it
http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/mlm_scams_phil_piccolo.html

VVV.com is another classic "Powerleg" similar to the BankMLM/VIPTravelRewards in which these guys did nothing but duplicate earning centers all the way down that Leg and then reaped the profits as everyone else builds down the other leg. people were able to 'drill down' and actually see the same top people over and over again...all the way down the darned thing.

My recommendation is to as fast as you can and tell everyone the same ANY time you see Phil associated with a program of any kind.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:04 PM
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Interesting,

I would have to agree, this is what many so called power leg deals will do to induce people to jump onboard, and now doubt, it works, but they all end up failing unless there is real value in product or service offered. I am not a big fan of the powerleg hype, and yes, in several deals, he seems to be able to get many companies jump started, as he did with WFL and IntelaTrader, and both technically flopped.

What I was able to do, a waste of time, but hey, I like to try to verify things before commenting, and so since I was in WFL, and worked it for a year, I can only say what I know. He started it off as he has many, then disappeared after first month, the same pattern repeated with IntelaTrader. It seems that when enough complaints come in, he is long gone, and surely collected his money upfront as consultant. Only problem is, his bag of signups he brings to database are mostly bogus deadbeat burned out MLMer he has collected over the many years he has been in MLM.

When I drilled down the power leg, indeed, I saw all those I had personally recruited in WFL now in the power leg of IntelaTrader? So how he had access to this WFL database, I don't know, but I do no how he operates now. He is like a gypsy, he travels from town to town with his bag of MLMer names to sell to the next sucker. What seems consistant is that the companies he goes to have no knowledge of industry, so they are easily duped into the hype of having thousands to jump start their network marketing introduction, as was the case with WFL and IntelaTrader. Both have a good product, and I was paid every dime with WFL, but makes you wonder how he can do this over and over again?

As to ValueValueValue deal, it looked like the same repeat performance, but this time, there was no database brought over by him or whoever had access to original database of previous too above. No doubt, he had access to all our emails, for many I could verify did get the same email indicating that this was now the new take off where WFL left off? And yes, an extended warranty is being offered with VVV, so at this point I can only assume it is the same one. If it is the same one, which I have on one of my cars, which is a good product, but where I paid $1500. through VVV it is mentioned to be only $500. when cutting out all the downline commissions that were used in WFL. Now that is VALUE.

There are still many new products being added, so I will research each to try and uncover what is hype and what is the truth, minus the usual MLM hype used so commonly over the years of spillover. Here is what I can report to date. Since it cost nothing to WFL members, so there was nothing to risk since I was already in database, so I registered. What did surprise me is that the WFL database was not brought over the same as it was with IntelaTrader which I verified, so this time was different? It started out sounding the same, but I know from my position that everyone who is now in VVV did enter at their own hand, not just thrown in like before, so what does this mean, we shall see. lol All 5000 plus who are in powerleg under pre-launch entered themselves this time, so they will hopefully see the value like I have a work it since it is a low cost program to join, free, and only $99. for membership, soon to go to $199. as it was announced.

Simply put, I guess anyone who keeps on keeping on will eventually get it right, or luck out, so who knows, but what I see to date has impressed me, so let me explain. First, there is true value being promoted for once, so if warranty is same as WFL for only $500., this is a $100. savings over WFL, and $2000. less than DuraLube Warranty which was selling same warranty for even more through their direct sales division which is still in operation as well. So I call this ValueValueValue. The RX Prescription Card is indeed a great VALUE to those without insurance coverage, and I did check out prices, and there is a real savings of up to 70% in a few samples I checked out, so this is a value, and it is just one of many benefits of membership, so we shall see.

The latest company that was announced as a provider was Gift & Save which I have been evaluating prices for past week, and in every single case, the prices on thousand of name brand products are indeed less than on any other web site I searched. They say they have 13K plus products, but I did not have time to check them all, but I checked out nearly a 100, and in every case, the savings were greater, so I welcome anyone to check it out for themselves, this is real VALUE as I see it. This is a vendor, not part of VVV, and since CEO was on one of the VVV calls, it is for real, and the only MLM that has access is VVV, so now it is getting interesting.

Bottom line, the verdict is still out on VVV until first commissions are paid. lol After all, saving money is great, but getting paid every penny we earn is what everyone is working a home business for given the recession is getting worse and worse. I have used business sales incentives for years in my businesses, and they work, and this is what VVV is all about, so since every business is looking to survive, now they can thrive by offering real incentives with real verifiable value, so this got my interest enough to spend hours and hours checking it out personally. I have not used the $500. Gas Rebate or Grocery Rebate programs offered, but these are common over past few years, similar to the many Vacation Vouchers offered, so we shall see on this when received if they are real value or not. So far, so good, now with the travel deal just announced, this one will upset those who are trying to sell the typical MLM $500. to $600. and up to $70. a month deals since VVV will offer same deal for $99. Similar to selling the WFL warranty for $500. instead of $2500. others are selling it for, this is real value, so I will update thread as I learn more and finish researching all value incentives being added.

As I see it to date, many good products which other MLM deals have sold at inflated prices are being brought in under a cooperative like arrangement at true wholesale prices, and given the recession, and so many MLM deals sucking wind, I like what I am seeing to date, even with his involvement as top affiliate again. I suspect this will become a clearing house for many defunct MLM companies to sell off inventory over the next couple years, so all I can say is I will not ignore a deal which offers real verifiable savings, so check it out for yourself, don't take anyone elses word for it. If over 5000 people have seen value of program in first couple weeks, this is getting interesting, who knows, it may be a winner in the end given real people are joining, no database manipulation with this one. lol

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