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  1. #11
    Join Date : May 2009
    Posts : 1,686

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    it long long ... i don't know you say


  2. #12
    Join Date : Jun 2008
    Posts : 29

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    Years ago in the 90's, before the days of easily downloadable ebooks, Silverthorne Publications used to sell their systems as printed manuals. I have about 6 of the printed books, and about 10 of the downloadable ebooks.

    Let me tell you straight, non of their systems work. But whoever is behind Silverthorne Publications has to be one of the best copywriters going around. Their sales letters are brilliantly persuasive.

    Since they started selling ebooks they just change the name of their old blackjack, bacc or roulette systems, change the rules slightly and just remarket it again and again.

    I must have seen the same system multiple times under different names.

  3. #13
    Join Date : Oct 2010
    Posts : 1

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    Hi everyone. The Fisher Roulette system as discussed has since been coverted into a software programme which I actually purchased as it was doing well on an independent testing site in the UK. I wasn't the only one that bought it. Basically, it is a staking plan (which is quite clever) and is used on betting 50/50 bets and can stand a fair losing run.

    It worked great for a while but when it goes on a losing spree it will wipe out your 2000 point bank in less than 10 minutes. Several users all reported the same experience with online Randon Number Generated (RNG) casinos. The author of the software came on to defend his product (his name was Johan or maybe it was an alias). As the trial was failing he started to amend the list of the recommended RNG casinos where you could use this product. However, It essential to use these online casinos with this product in order to get the maximum spins per hour to make a decent profit. When they all started failing he said the online casinos must be 'fixed' and urged everyone to go to the web based live casinos where you can see the wheel. So even if the product actually worked, you have to practicaly spend 8 hours a day going mind dead. No-one is going to have the stamina to test this to destruction in the latest scenario.

    Undeterred, I tinkered with the system and came up with my own version. I tested it for around 6000 spins on the online roulette with respected British companies. When i was happy with it, I went live and switched from the demo account to my live account and guess what, when I won 30 points in the first 5 minutes the online casino set off a mission to destroy me. I am not being paranoid here as the betting patterns were exactly the same as the demo account and should have been transferable to a live situation. The losing sequences bore no resemblance to my records on the demo account. It has proved to me beyond reasonable doubt that these Random Generated Number programmes are set up to be different from demo accounts and no matter how good your system, you need to play at a live (web based/bricks and mortar) casino. Now, even if the fisher system worked you need a 2000 point bank and the author recommends a 5 maximum stake but really should start off at just a few pence. So either you sit and watch a wheel all week for a few pounds instead of working or you risk all your savings on something that might or might not work. The staking plan though is a good idea and if i could find some other genuine 50/50 bets I would like to have go. as yet I have found nothing. As for my own variation, I am trying it a a live web based casino - its doing ok so far but so did the fisher system till it bust the bank. Johan has since disappered but at least we have clickbank to get our money back from.

  4. #14
    Join Date : Jul 2009
    Posts : 28

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    Has Anyone looked at the roulette system PIGS GET FAT AND HOGS GO TO THE SLAUGHTER!

    I actually found it changed the way I Bet in general and not just with roulette!

    HAppy punting

  5. #15
    Join Date : Jun 2013
    Posts : 1

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    The online stuff is a lie. I tried one called the Jagger Formula for roulette ended up losing about 50 dollars online but when i tried at a real casino I made a little over 200. could just have been lucky but at least the system paid for itself.

  6. #16
    Join Date : May 2014
    Posts : 1

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    You ARE so full of it I can't stand it!!...You are dragging this guy's name in the mud. I just made (for the 2nd time in 2 days) 301 dollars in 48 min. of roulette play. I was using the Jagger system sold by this guy.....Dude maybe you just can't follow the rules..... That means picking up your winnings after the goal has been hit!!!THATS the real reason you can't win....Its you. It is not the system it is the person playing the system.

  7. #17
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Posts : 1

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    Quote Originally Posted by wolf7050 View Post
    You ARE so full of it I can't stand it!!...You are dragging this guy's name in the mud. I just made (for the 2nd time in 2 days) 301 dollars in 48 min. of roulette play. I was using the Jagger system sold by this guy.....Dude maybe you just can't follow the rules..... That means picking up your winnings after the goal has been hit!!!THATS the real reason you can't win....Its you. It is not the system it is the person playing the system.
    I have to agree. Any gambler who makes a living at it will tell you that it is boring. Herein lies the problem, most gamblers have no discipline and do not walk away when they should. Silverthorne tells you that you must walk away after hitting a target win.

    I purchased one of his systems was not satisfied and my money was returned no questions asked.

  8. #18
    Join Date : Jan 2016
    Posts : 3

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    Gamblers Bookcase is another name they go by. Spoiler Alert: They are a SCAM.

    I was curious about their product Sharpshooter Roulette to see what was really inside of it, so I parted with my $99.97US. They had an "Iron Clad 100% Guarantee" What did I have to lose , right?(famous last words....

    So here is my Gamblers Bookcase Review AKA Matin J Silverthorne or Silverthorne Productions

    First things first. KEEP YOUR MONEY!!

    If you really want it that bad, just search the product name ie: Sharpshooter Roulette PDF (or Download)

    You'll be able to find any product of theirs for FREE.

    So after reading their Gamblers Bookcase sales page for Sharpshooter Roulette, I was a little intrigued and purchased.

    After reading the book, I knew it was BS. It gives one strategy to play roulette, but we all know a strategy in roulette is about as good as nothing. So I knew the Sharpshooter Routtle PDF from Gamblers Bookcase was nothing really. You could easily look up a thousand strategies for free on youtube and you'd be left with the same odds. (Hint: The casino would win)

    There are professional no professional roulette players for a reason.

    So after all of this, I decided it's not what I wanted. But it didn't matter my reason. They offer a guarantee for any reason. So I emailed them over at Gamblers Bookcase Silverthorne Productions about my sharpshooter Roulette purchase and how I was wanting a refund.

    No response.

    So I emailed them again over at Gamblers Bookcase Silverthorne Productions about my So I emailed them over at Gamblers Bookcase Silverthorne Productions about my sharpshooter Roulette purchase and how I was wanting a refund. purchase and how I was wanting a refund.

    No response.

    I tried 3 times and in the last email I stated I would go through PayPal.

    No response.

    So I went through PayPal, but unfortunately out of the list of option they give you for a dispute, apparently my choice was the wrong one. Which shouldn't have mattered anyways, if I was asking for a refund they should have followed through. Instead, they disputed it and PayPal eventually denied me.

    So I tried contacting through email. They finally responded saying the "Processed the refund".

    After a few days I replied back to Gamblers Bookcase Silverthorne Productions about sharpshooter Roulette saying nothing was refunded.

    They told me it took 2 -3 weeks. Four weeks later, they're still preaching the same song. I gave them one more chance but they told me to get PayPal to investigate.

    ***I was kind of hoping they would say that***

    So I said okay, that's fine if you don't want to uphold your end of the deal. I will make sure anyone who searches your name Gamblers Bookcase or Silverthorne Productions or Sharpshooter Roulette, that they would only find information about how you will take their money.

    So here I am. Let the games begin. As Liam Neeson says, "I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you."

    So if you're thinking of picking up any of the Gamblers Bookcase products..... don't. Or search for them online because you'll find them for free.

  9. #19
    Join Date : Jan 2016
    Posts : 3

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    I wrote them in an email that I would negatively promote their company, which would result in thousands of dollars for not issuing me a refund. I'm happy to announce that My Gamblers Bookcase review is moving it's way through the google rankings. For certain keywords like Sharpshooter roulette review, Gamblers Bookcase Review, Gamblers bookcase scam, Martin Silverthorne Review and scam, I am on the first page of google.

    So let's say *CHEERS* to that shall we!

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  10. #20
    Join Date : Jan 2016
    Posts : 3

    Default Re: How full of BS can be this Martin Silverthorne character???

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathani View Post
    I wrote them in an email that I would negatively promote their company, which would result in thousands of dollars for not issuing me a refund. I'm happy to announce that My Gamblers Bookcase review is moving it's way through the google rankings. For certain keywords like Sharpshooter roulette review, Gamblers Bookcase Review, Gamblers bookcase scam, Martin Silverthorne Review and scam, I am on the first page of google.

    So let's say *CHEERS* to that shall we!

    If anyone else would like to add some comments, please be sure to use the keywords:

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    Another great win today! I looked in my email and I received my $99.97USD from Gamblers Bookcase Sharpshooter Roulette by Martin J Silverthorne of Silverthorne Productions.

    Also, if you're looking to make a big stand, ripoff report was on the first page of google within an hour of posting it. So that was pretty awesome.

    Anyone whose ever used their products or know of more names of the products should place them as keywords.

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