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Old 01-28-2009, 11:46 AM
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Just fond an update about this 1 from 1 of the major spamers LSM marketing


Rachel Long (anyone heard that name before?) is in a commanding lead at 224 members. Her team is growing strong and it's growing FAST. Awesome work Rachel!

Jane Mark, another BIG name online is just behind with 190. Jane has always been an amazing marketer to watch in action.

Frank Astheimer has been busy doing what he does best all the way over in Germany... not only creating his own team of personal members, but guiding tons of others through the process of becoming successful themselves.

Paula Frye, Clay Montgomery, John Denton, Triple J and LSM Marketing out of the Philippines who have been responsible for building a team of over 1,000 members ALREADY, the infamous Paul Darby, the FAMOUS Mike G... the list of world class marketers is endless here in Push Button Xtreme.


rember those name sbecause they do it all the time. they kno that most peple wil lose in this scam but that dsn;t stop them from prmting it
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:10 AM
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Dear Friends,
I am writing this letter which I will copy and paste every half hour, as I get another email about this new pre-launch that promises that you will make 1980 a month with no sponsoring. I noticed immediately it looked like Lawn Chair Millionaire, which is one of the most deceptive and misleading "programs" to ever hit the scene. They straight up mislead everyone in Lawn Chair Millionaire, that people were going to make passive money. No one made passive money. By the time they had to re-up for their positions, pay the other fees, inlcluding a high priced debit pay card, people were always out of pocket, never in profit. Notice how this is so hyped up, and people have no idea who is behind it, or what it is. This is exactly what they did with LCM, which embarrassed every "leader" that promoted it. Be warned. Pause. This frenzy like mentality is a sure sign of crash and burn.
David

PS. I share this while going through the painful realization that another hyped up recent prelaunch may have turned out not to be what we had expected. I just want to temper everyone here. I know personally how easy it is to get swept away in the excitement of a pre-launch. I think this, like the other one one I mentioned, may turn out to be a huge disappointment for networkers. Please be careful.

I totally agree!

I have just read a couple of minutes on the web site, and I realized what it's all about.
Passive money in any kind of MLM/pyramid type system? Get real folks!
Never happened, and never will happen. The wheel can't be made square.

For me any kind of company in MLM which screams that "everybody" will make "xy amount of money passively" = SCAM. Period.
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:17 AM
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peple should list the major promotars of this scam. i will start wit some i know of. maybe peple wil lern to stay away from this group

rune forjt
darren olander
jane mark
mike glaspie
john denton

add to the lisyt. it is always the same top 10-20 that the onwers give top spots to

Yep... the same a...hole MLM "gurus" with huge mailing lists.
Of course when someone opens some new kind of MLM scam (or even a serious MLM every once in a while), the first ones are these characters who are contacted by them, because guaranteed everyone of them will bring in a couple of thousands of naive on-line moneymaking opportunity seekers...
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:21 AM
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here is 1 of the hyp master spamers that advurtises this scam

"More good news!

The money keeps rolling in for you Rune!!

You just cycled in the EXTREME Matrix and earned $97. Congratulations!"

.... and this was the third time I cycled rolleyes.gif


Although I make most the money from sponsoring -
the cycling speed is the same for everybody,
wheter you are recruiter or not.

I can't believe those that are dropping out of this,
at this time.

It's just been a few days since launch.

Have some patience whistling1.gif

Just hang in there and you too will
cycle many times before the month is up.

Have a great day

Rune F
CEO MlmProNews



i hope peple see that he is 1 of the bigest hype spamers of this scam and wil never join a program with him again
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:42 AM
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Everyone needs to know this about them... the people you speak about above are repeatedly sending people into these programs. The people some call "heavy hitters" such as jane mark (and perhaps rachel long also )took out a massive loan to buy their email list.

They did not build that "list", they bought the list and sites already in existence with members on it. Ask them if it is true. So... I hardly call that a master list "builder" from using know-how and starting from scratch. And those thinking about following them around and joining their suggestions, are you going to take out a 2nd mortgage or some other type of loan to buy yourself a list so you can make 7 grand in a week in Pushbuttonextreme (PBX)- not telling the whole truth of what is what to make people believe you know your stuff?

Then... once you make your money back by advertising schemes to that bought email list, you can call yourself a master in this so people will believe you and keep upgrading and pay for your "limo" rides and "cruises" as they tell people so many times they have done?

Does the truth impress you? if so, then watch out for the next one that makes them thousands and you $27 when you paid over a hundred bucks in the first place.

The same group of people repeatedly align with the same couple of people who put out lawnchair, probuilder, rejuvenate, etc... repeatedly.. and make you think it is going to do the same for you. They know full well how it ends.... but I guess sending stories about their dogs and claiming rights on being guru, master list builder, inventors of blasters (also not true) is good enough for those who do not know better and believe it.
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Old 02-07-2009, 01:58 PM
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Funny,

That is why they are called heavy hitters, or Guru's, they are at the top of just about every affiliate eBook or whatever deal that comes along, and have been for years, so nothing new here. It sounds like some can't stand to see them make all the money they do, but hey, they figured out how important list building really is if you ever want to make serious money online.

We all get bombarded by this same group, for almost everyone has taken their free offers which places you on their lists. Nothing new here, all the top online affiliate hawks use list building as the most effective marketing since email spam is rarely opened anymore or is caught by spam filters. List building should be everyone's first objective if you ever hope to make any money online.

Opt in list building works, and this is what PushButton is all about, building your list, so is it worth the the ongoing monthly fee, who knows, only time will determine benefit for it takes a ton of time to build a list no matter which strategy you use. Just don't think you will be another Frank Kern or Mike Glaspie overnight, it won't happen, they simply got jump on strategy of giving away information in order to harvest your emails for their lists. Does it work, yes, absolutely, and I too envy their success, and they are making millions for a good reason, they earned it. lol

Whether this Push Button deal will be any different than the prior LCM deal, time will tell, as it always does. LCM made a fortune for those at the top for it used traditional matrix, which rarely ever provide the hyped up spillover factor we all hear about. The spillover fairy has never waived her magic wand on any matrix I have ever been involved with. How about you? lol The reality is always the same, disappointment, then quitting in disgust, sound familiar?

I must say, given this is not the traditional static matrix position, it did get my interest to take a closer look for this reason alone. If you are not stuck in a dead leg of matrix, then there is a good chance you will start to see some results. A 2X14 is only as good as those who are involved, as in, stay involved. I have always felt there is a strategy to make a matrix work, but like all compensation plans, you have to solve the attrition problem if you are ever to see any real money. Now if people see profits as quickly as I am seeing, then there is hope this will be the one that hangs around for the long term.

Again, we have all seen the same names at the top, but as you start to dive into the matrix structure of this one, you see Mike Glaspie is not at top, he cycled and is now at the bottom of matrix, which is quite unique, for we all will be at the bottom, just as we will all technically be at the top at some point. Like all online businesses, we know they are a gamble, and we all know what gambling means, you win some, and lose most. lol Is this the winning hand, who knows, but given the difference and uniqueness of a floating position, this one has potential as I see it, and evidently many others are seeing it too for this is indeed exploding.

Now just imagine if this is the one deal which exceeds our expectations? If they have solved the age old attrition problem in all programs, then my hats off to them and they deserve to make another million sitting on their lawnchairs at the beach. lol I am sure most here wouldn't mind developing a couple grand a month in extra income in this collapsing economy. Even if it takes six months or more, which is my guestimate, would it be worth investing a few hundred? We have all blown more than that on other deals, so just maybe this one will be different for the little guys or gals. Stay tuned, always good to read both negative and positive reviews, and I expect to see a lot more responding given the growth to date. Life is a gamble, so we might as well have fun doing it.

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Old 02-10-2009, 07:26 PM
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Question. When the month ends, and everyone is charged the monthly fee, does it cause people to cycle? In other words, will it create new positions in the matrix?
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:01 PM
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Funny,

That is why they are called heavy hitters, or Guru's, they are at the top of just about every affiliate eBook or whatever deal that comes along, and have been for years, so nothing new here. It sounds like some can't stand to see them make all the money they do, but hey, they figured out how important list building really is if you ever want to make serious money online.

We all get bombarded by this same group, for almost everyone has taken their free offers which places you on their lists. Nothing new here, all the top online affiliate hawks use list building as the most effective marketing since email spam is rarely opened anymore or is caught by spam filters. List building should be everyone's first objective if you ever hope to make any money online.

Opt in list building works, and this is what PushButton is all about, building your list, so is it worth the the ongoing monthly fee, who knows, only time will determine benefit for it takes a ton of time to build a list no matter which strategy you use. Just don't think you will be another Frank Kern or Mike Glaspie overnight, it won't happen, they simply got jump on strategy of giving away information in order to harvest your emails for their lists. Does it work, yes, absolutely, and I too envy their success, and they are making millions for a good reason, they earned it. lol

Whether this Push Button deal will be any different than the prior LCM deal, time will tell, as it always does. LCM made a fortune for those at the top for it used traditional matrix, which rarely ever provide the hyped up spillover factor we all hear about. The spillover fairy has never waived her magic wand on any matrix I have ever been involved with. How about you? lol The reality is always the same, disappointment, then quitting in disgust, sound familiar?

I must say, given this is not the traditional static matrix position, it did get my interest to take a closer look for this reason alone. If you are not stuck in a dead leg of matrix, then there is a good chance you will start to see some results. A 2X14 is only as good as those who are involved, as in, stay involved. I have always felt there is a strategy to make a matrix work, but like all compensation plans, you have to solve the attrition problem if you are ever to see any real money. Now if people see profits as quickly as I am seeing, then there is hope this will be the one that hangs around for the long term.

Again, we have all seen the same names at the top, but as you start to dive into the matrix structure of this one, you see Mike Glaspie is not at top, he cycled and is now at the bottom of matrix, which is quite unique, for we all will be at the bottom, just as we will all technically be at the top at some point. Like all online businesses, we know they are a gamble, and we all know what gambling means, you win some, and lose most. lol Is this the winning hand, who knows, but given the difference and uniqueness of a floating position, this one has potential as I see it, and evidently many others are seeing it too for this is indeed exploding.

Now just imagine if this is the one deal which exceeds our expectations? If they have solved the age old attrition problem in all programs, then my hats off to them and they deserve to make another million sitting on their lawnchairs at the beach. lol I am sure most here wouldn't mind developing a couple grand a month in extra income in this collapsing economy. Even if it takes six months or more, which is my guestimate, would it be worth investing a few hundred? We have all blown more than that on other deals, so just maybe this one will be different for the little guys or gals. Stay tuned, always good to read both negative and positive reviews, and I expect to see a lot more responding given the growth to date. Life is a gamble, so we might as well have fun doing it.

Success to all,
I really appreciate the intelligence and thoughtfulness of this post. There is a lot of value and wisdom in this post, in regard to list building, etc. I understand the thinking of all of this, and wish you and other PBX members well.
That being said, I have to respectfully disagree with you that this is a good way to build a list. There is a lot of "what if this is the one that makes it" kind of thinking here, and I appreciate that. But I do not think it is how things will turn out, personally.
Building a list, like you mentioned, by offering freebies is a brilliant way to go, no doubt. But building a list where there is a good chance that the majority of people you bring in will not be in a profit situation, is not going to work out the same.

I do wish you success, and we will really only know how it turns out in 60 days or so.

Take care.
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Question. When the month ends, and everyone is charged the monthly fee, does it cause people to cycle? In other words, will it create new positions in the matrix?
Technically, no, the payments received monthly has nothing to do with the act of cycling, this is based on new sales and those who do cycle and who are then placed back under your position in matrix in next open spot.

The member payments will be paid out just like the fast start was when you bring in members, as in, only those that you signed up, not the ones that fall under you who are in matrix constantly cycling. The $15. goes to sponsor on each member they sold every month, the balance is profit shared among all members which is what pays the cycle commissions and pool.

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