i have heard so many story of the scammer and looks like this is like hit and run case.. so i would like to bring a discussion here on how to trace and catch the scammer and hope to bring these scammer to the law.
what is your suggestion ? or any one familar with law here?how can we do that?
Re: Let's discuss how to trace and catch the scammer.
there is no way to do that in fact. all programs are potential failures, especially hyips. but to find the one just try to get in touch with them, check their support and doc's if possible. take time to analyze the info available on their website with what they can offer as a proof. thats simple. for example
is they claim to have a large advertising network then just ask to name at least a couple of websites or resources - if they start going around the bush just go away silently. if the one is claiming to do forex then ask them to show you some adequate proof (trading materials). the same as in the first example - if going round the bush - bye then.
If not sure afterall, then maybe you are just not that risky to invest online? ) bank savings accounts were not abolished btw its still a good place to invest
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Re: Let's discuss how to trace and catch the scammer.
Dear Jeff,
I hope you read this soon. I am sure a guy wants to take my money. I was searching for a car in mobile.de and then i saw a really good offer(usually this car costs 4500 euro, and that model was 3200. I wrote to the guy and he said he lives really far away (the most northern parts of Danemark) and that he is 64. I live in Munich and so I told him that this will be a problem, and he said to me that this is no problem and he can come somewhere on the middle of the way bla bla, but he needs some sort of proof that I will also come there and that he wont go 800km for nothing. So here comes the moment with the Western Union friend/wife transfer. He told me that my wife/best friend should go to western union and make a transfer that could be only possible to get from the city where the meeting should take place, and he will do the same so that I will be sure he will come too, I only have to send him a copy of the document that I will receive in Western Union. Yes but No the first thing after receiving the mail from him was to go into the security section of mobile.de and there was that text :
"A request for payment in advance generally always proves to be attempted fraud.Therefore, never transfer money in advance! This is true for both cash transfer payments (e.g. via Western Union, MoneyGram, Escrow) as well as for bank transfers. It is possible in both cases to cash the money by presenting false identity papers, and you are unable to claim your money back!
Remember: you are taking a large risk with this type of transaction as you do not know the recipient. Therefore cash payment transfers or bank transfers are generally not the appropriate form of payment when buying a vehicle!
Even if you intend to make the payment to an acquaintance or relative, this does not necessarily mean that will you not be the target of attempted fraud! A supposed seller with fraud in mind only needs to know a few details in order to cash your money using false papers. Therefore, never pay in advance.
There were some other suspicious things within our correspondence but they are not really important now, the important thing is that I know that he is a Cheater, but he doesn't know that I am aware of that fact. I've already told him that I agree with his terms but I am a really busy man and don't know when I will have the time to go to WU but it should be these days. My question is CAN I make that transfer but at first tell the cops, or something, I don't know, and just when he goes to take the money with the fake IDs they to expect him and the police to get him? Is this possible or you don't think so?
Thank you for spending your time reading this!
Best Regards,
Georgi
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Originally Posted by Internet2Cash
i have heard so many story of the scammer and looks like this is like hit and run case.. so i would like to bring a discussion here on how to trace and catch the scammer and hope to bring these scammer to the law.
what is your suggestion ? or any one familar with law here?how can we do that?
Re: Let's discuss how to trace and catch the scammer.
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Originally Posted by notanewbie
Do you have any particular scammer(s) in mind?
I have actually. amistafund. Luckily I withdrew my profit a few days ago but my friend is having his bucks stuck and pending. so it feels like bad news.
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Re: Let's discuss how to trace and catch the scammer.
first thing to catching scammers offcourse if they own a hyip or any kind of money scheme is:
Do a whois lookup on the specific domain and hosting, most scammers hide their identity reason for that is they either tend to scam or already scammed before and dont want to get caught.
Also If the current scammer uses proxies while accessing forums and gives you a lame excuse that means that he/she doesnt want his real ip known in case we comare it with other ips of former scammers.
If the site is offering a really really high profit in a very short period then expect to get scammed
If the admin of a site opens a site with a 1 minute design that also might indicate that he/she tends to scam.
If the scammer starts to give lam excuses about any issue like account deletion or account suspended like their site was hacked or database was stolen.
I use these methods to catch scammers and to not loose my money.
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Originally Posted by mjomha
first thing to catching scammers offcourse if they own a hyip or any kind of money scheme is:
Do a whois lookup on the specific domain and hosting, most scammers hide their identity reason for that is they either tend to scam or already scammed before and dont want to get caught.
Also If the current scammer uses proxies while accessing forums and gives you a lame excuse that means that he/she doesnt want his real ip known in case we comare it with other ips of former scammers.
If the site is offering a really really high profit in a very short period then expect to get scammed
If the admin of a site opens a site with a 1 minute design that also might indicate that he/she tends to scam.
If the scammer starts to give lam excuses about any issue like account deletion or account suspended like their site was hacked or database was stolen.
I use these methods to catch scammers and to not loose my money.
Hope that helps you out!
This is great information on how to AVOID being scammed.
As for CATCHING a scammer... unless you are extremely computer/net savvy it is nearly impossible to actually catch the scammer. You can trace ip addresses right to a home address if you are willing to do the work. But I can assure you through my own work in another arena of finding scammers... it most often ends up in a cybercafe in places like Nigeria, India, Pakistan, Brazil, Honduras, Belize, Russia, Latvia, New York, Los Angelas, Omaha, etc... I can go on and on with cybercafe locations...
So... if you really want to CATCH a scammer, first learn to trace an ip, find out if it goes to a cyber cafe or the like... if it does... your screwed for the most part... depending on what country you live in now... are you willing to travel and work with Law Enforcement in THAT country to catch the dirtbag? Is hyip illegal in your area? If it is... you are like a crack cocain buyer complaining you got ripped off by your dealer and want to get your money back... good luck on that.
Bottom line... as much as EVERYONE here would love to be able to reach through their monitor and squeeze that zit faced pencil necks head off... not gonna happen.... and if it does happen... its going to be a rare case... this is the reason you are going to have about a 80% failure rate on hyips (because the scammer knows this) for a long time, until you learn those avoid tactics mentioned above.
Let's discuss how to trace and catch the scammer.
its still a good place to invest 
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