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Re: VFS and Mgold, same owner. Is this ethical? (discussion) |
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05-11-2009, 07:36 PM
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Re: VFS and Mgold, same owner. Is this ethical? (discussion)
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Originally Posted by ErnstMeier
I'll reveal my motives in later posts.
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This sentence alone is quite telling.
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Originally Posted by ErnstMeier
The pathetical thing is that many of these exchangers belong to himself and the rest belong to a few guys.
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You're a flat-out liar.
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Originally Posted by ErnstMeier
...invites other exchangers (his competitors) to Join VFS so he can then put them on a blacklist after a while and destroy their reputation.
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Ah, yes. This is clearly true judging from all of the honest exchangers currently blacklisted at VFS. Where the hell do you come up with this garbage?
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Look at M-Gold, if VFS was a serious organization (and if M-Gold didnt belong to Patryn) this exchanger would have been blacklisted ages ago. Be careful.
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...and why would M-Gold be blacklisted "ages ago"? Zero unresolved complaints. Accredited by every major e-currency. I blacklist scamming exchangers. M-Gold has not scammed anyone.
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Re: VFS and Mgold, same owner. Is this ethical? (discussion) |
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05-11-2009, 11:56 PM
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Re: VFS and Mgold, same owner. Is this ethical? (discussion)
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I'll reveal my motives in later posts.
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I'm sure like all others you will
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Originally Posted by ErnstMeier
Fortunately I have always stayed away from Patryn and his scams. No Im not one of his black listed exchangers in VFS.
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"Always"??....You talking about ever since 5th of April 2009 when you joined TG??...
Or do we all know you under a different name??
Just seems like you go back a little longer then what you admitting to here but like you said, your motives/agenda will soon be revealed
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Unlike you, this is the only username I have in Talkgold. Keep wondering.
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05-13-2009, 10:30 PM
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Re: Patryn stuff 2009
Laundering as a Service
well found some article about patryn
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Here too, the network is turning professional, and many former crooks are now specializing in this field. In October 2004, the U.S. Secret Service arrested people said to be responsible for a set of credit card and identity thefts that had plagued Internet users. It was the result of Operation Firewall. Most of them frequented ShadowCrew, a worldwide marketplace where thousands of members traded stolen credit cards and debit cards, as well as bank account numbers and counterfeit identification documents, such as drivers’ licenses, passports, and Social Security cards.
One convicted person, using Voleur (French for “thief”) as a pseudonym, set up a special payment system for cybercrime transactions. For a 10 percent commission, he exchanged cash for E-Gold, the well-known and controversial digital gold currency. Voleur laundered money for dozen of deals of forum members, moving amounts ranging from $40,000 to $100,000 per week. With about twenty other individuals, he pleaded guilty in November 2005, was sentenced in June 2006, and was released later on.
At that time, Voleur’s work was not institutionalized. But today, I believe, this individual is again in business and manages some websites specialized in giving advice for digital currency activities. One of them is named “Voleur Financial Services”; that’s a tall order!
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05-14-2009, 05:50 AM
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Re: Patryn stuff 2009
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Laundering as a Service
well found some article about patryn
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Where??...Linkey please so we can read the whole thing 
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05-14-2009, 06:21 AM
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Re: Patryn stuff 2009
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Where??...Linkey please so we can read the whole thing 
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Nothing really new, same old, same old
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05-14-2009, 07:44 AM
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Re: Patryn stuff 2009
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Where??...Linkey please so we can read the whole thing 
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laundering-as-a-service
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05-14-2009, 09:33 AM
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Re: Patryn stuff 2009
Maybe not to you but I recall you used that exact same phrase when you also found out that patryn had SIX IP matches with M-Gold.
Please enlighten the TG forum why when you found out when it was NEW news to you that you did absolutely nothing about it, didn't even mention it, is that your normal behavior to ignore the rules of this forum or even worse, to be selective on warnings/bannings on who has Multiple Usernames.
Please enlighten us if possible using comprehendable English your reasons for not acting on it when it was NEW news and not OLD.
I'd also like to know why cloth ears himself hasn't answered this easy question
I'll repeat for him.
How do you know why other members have been banned without having access to the Mod CP?
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=144
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Nothing really new, same old, same old
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05-14-2009, 04:12 PM
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To be fair here, He simply asked me if I knew the reason behind exchangeplus's banning. I told him.... Saw no harm in doing so.
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05-14-2009, 06:08 PM
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Re: Patryn stuff 2009
You'd think something that simple he could answer the question himself ;-)
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05-14-2009, 08:06 PM
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Re: Patryn stuff 2009
Patryn***8217;s signature violates the rules of TG as VFS***8217;s main purpose is to promote M-Gold, his personal exchanger (among many others which he also owns). Soon, he***8217;ll start promoting his own ecurrency service there. (HDMoney) According to talkgold***8217;s rules he cant do this unless he***8217;s an exchanger with a paid sticky (which he has always denied here in numerous occasions).
His personal attacks against other users including moderators and super moderators are countless. Most of the time he just answers with his pathetical arrogance and cheesey humor, tho when someone comes up with a legit accusation against him/M-gold/VFS/HDMoney/Omar Dhanani (aka him) , he doesn***8217;t hesitate one second to use any kind of insults in/outside the WZ. Of course, Patryn doesn***8217;t care about any folder***8217;s rules or moderators***8217; warnings. Despite his manipulative posts, his actions never match his words.
He has been accused of buying/trying to buy many folder moderators and recruiting talkgold***8217;s members for the usage of matters related to his personal interests.
It is just crazy that Patryn has not even gotten a single warning for his behavior. Having a person like Omar Dhanani in this community goes against the legitimacy of talkgold and its content.
I would propose that this matter be discussed in the moderators folder, read Patryn***8217;s posts history and evaluate this embarrassing situation. I am sure that, when Patryn***8217;s banners and paid stickies are taken off here, many people (including myself) will replace them with more reputable companies and better services ads.
I haven***8217;t confirmed this yet but so far, everything indicates that Patryn (M-Gold) is the official exchanger of TG. If this is not true, Brian could help us a bit by sharing with us the batch numbers for his last outexchanges ( we***8217;ll then do the diligence to find out the destiny account of those transactions***8230;..yes, M-Gold).
In later posts, I***8217;ll reveal some evidence (for Patryn to deny as usual) where we can see how Omar Dhanani did not do a very good job when changing his name to Omar Patryn and trying to hide the foot prints of his steps, his plans for his new ecurrency HD Money, VFS and the forum that he will launch in a couple months (smart huh?) I suggest Patryn to start preparing his BS or to speak to Brian and ask him to ban me. No one will believe his garbage this time.
As for Tdinoz, he has always been one of the few Patryn supporters in all situations no matter what evidences show. I wonder why, whats his relation with Patryn? I dont know that but its definately quite weird.
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