Patryn stuff - Page 44

Patryn · #**431** 05-15-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ErnstMeier

Keep promoting yourself....digging your own whole. A desperate attempt to avoid the discussion, as always. People who disapprove you arent stalkers, they are just the victims of your scams and corrupt business practices.

Unless you're an exchanger or e-currency, my business practices do not affect you. As for scams? There are no VFS-Exchangers with unresolved complaints.

Smart Alec · #**432** 05-15-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ErnstMeier

Keep promoting yourself....digging your own whole. A desperate attempt to avoid the discussion, as always. People who disapprove you arent stalkers, they are just the victims of your scams and corrupt business practices.

This must be supported by evidences, bring someone here with a proof of being ripped off by Omar or any of his VFS network exchangers, and you will have a point. Until then it is just your and some other 'stalkers' oppinion.

With regards to Omar 'practices' here at TG, I mean MP and kidding with HDMoney and M-gold ownership, he has his reasons. He's just mocking at the TG public hypocricy.

Everything is apparent and he doesn't even attempt to hide under different IPs, could have done it so that you would never guess. He didn't even care to change his username here at TG, knowing that the oldies are aware of his 'business and public record'.

I know him from 2003 when this forum started, participated in one of his affairs, followed his case and clearly see what is going on.

The whole HYIP and anonymous e-currency 'market niche' balances on verge of legitimacy. The sphere is largely underregulated and uncoordinated, that's where Omars chances are. With his past experience and enterpreneureal zeal he tries to brace the exchanger part of the business together, filling the gap after GDCA lost strings of things. Who needs his services? We all know, e-currency manipulators need channels to move large funds around, they know all the risks involved. The opportunity was out there and Omar took it, like it or not, as they say 'the spice must flow' and it requires experienced facilitators. Omar is one of those who tries to connect and coordinate e-currency operators, exchangers, big and small players in the field. He is more or less successful in what he is doing and this causes jealousy.

**talkgold** · #**433** 05-15-2009, 02:20 AM

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Not to mention that Patryn is not very loyal to Brian.....but that doesnt surprise anyone considering the kind of person you are.

Lol I don't really care, there really isn't anything that he has to be loyal about. He can tell the world what he knows about me. There is nothing to hide. As for what exchanger Talkgold uses for out exchanges... how is that anyone's business. My job is to out exchange funds at the lowest rate with the safest exchanger in mind. Whatever one that is at the time is the one I am instructed to use. Whether Patryn is a banned TG member or a regular member does not affect the exchanger or the rate at which TG's revenue is exchanged into dollars. Funds from ad sales are transfered to a business account under my name and then Distributed to the owner, and then shareholders.

There I just gave away information which I don't really need to...

okosh · #**434** 05-15-2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Smart Alec

This must be supported by evidences, bring someone here with a proof of being ripped off by Omar or any of his VFS network exchangers, and you will have a point. Until then it is just your and some other 'stalkers' oppinion.

With regards to Omar 'practices' here at TG, I mean MP and kidding with HDMoney and M-gold ownership, he has his reasons. He's just mocking at the TG public hypocricy.

Everything is apparent and he doesn't even attempt to hide under different IPs, could have done it so that you would never guess. He didn't even care to change his username here at TG, knowing that the oldies are aware of his 'business and public record'.

I know him from 2003 when this forum started, participated in one of his affairs, followed his case and clearly see what is going on.

The whole HYIP and anonymous e-currency 'market niche' balances on verge of legitimacy. The sphere is largely underregulated and uncoordinated, that's where Omars chances are. With his past experience and enterpreneureal zeal he tries to brace the exchanger part of the business together, filling the gap after GDCA lost strings of things. Who needs his services? We all know, e-currency manipulators need channels to move large funds around, they know all the risks involved. The opportunity was out there and Omar took it, like it or not, as they say 'the spice must flow' and it requires experienced facilitators. Omar is one of those who tries to connect and coordinate e-currency operators, exchangers, big and small players in the field. He is more or less successful in what he is doing and this causes jealousy.

Well Said

All I see here and in other threads are people who think they have the right to play judge, jury and executioner and who want to hang Patryn because of his part in the shadow crew stuff....

I'm not buying the BS posted by Earnst and others who wish to hang paytryn cos of his past....
You got something he is doing today??...Then post it

So far nothing has been shown here or in other threads to even suggest that patryn is guilty today of scamming any more or any less than thousands of others who feed off this scam arena....

And Alec is right...Success breeds jealousy....The concept of VFS is sheer brilliance....
Any other person as admin and everyone would be raving about how good it is

If not buying into the BS that is going on here is translated by some to mean that I believe patryn then so be it...
But so far all I've seen here is a witich hunt

**Tdinoz** · #**435** 05-15-2009, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tdinoz

Keep me out of these delusions

To clarify my comment above was directed at ALL who the cap fits, not any one person. Some are easy to recognise.

They eat sleep and drink this subject to the extent it seems to have taken over a large part of their minds.

In my eyes I have the same view as last week , this thread was moved/merged to a very suitable destination.

**ticktack** · #**436** 05-15-2009, 08:04 AM

Don't get involved as you'll only make yourself look more stupid than you already have done.

When we don't believe members here we ask them to prove it or shut up, same goes for us.

You made a statement so please back it up and prove me wrong, be the first to prove me wrong.

Show me where it's old news, it's that simple if it were possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tdinoz

To clarify my comment above was directed at ALL who the cap fits, not any one person. Some are easy to recognise.

They eat sleep and drink this subject to the extent it seems to have taken over a large part of their minds.

In my eyes I have the same view as last week , this thread was moved/merged to a very suitable destination.

**ticktack** · #**437** 05-15-2009, 08:18 AM

Witch hunt or not, if he (patryn) were upfront and honest about his business practices then this thread would not exist and people would not be able to throw accusations whether they be true or not.

Many of my questions/accusations have been ignored, if he had nothing to hide he would answer them.

That's simple logic.

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Originally Posted by okosh

Well Said

All I see here and in other threads are people who think they have the right to play judge, jury and executioner and who want to hang Patryn because of his part in the shadow crew stuff....

I'm not buying the BS posted by Earnst and others who wish to hang paytryn cos of his past....
You got something he is doing today??...Then post it

So far nothing has been shown here or in other threads to even suggest that patryn is guilty today of scamming any more or any less than thousands of others who feed off this scam arena....

And Alec is right...Success breeds jealousy....The concept of VFS is sheer brilliance....
Any other person as admin and everyone would be raving about how good it is

If not buying into the BS that is going on here is translated by some to mean that I believe patryn then so be it...
But so far all I've seen here is a witich hunt

okosh · #**438** 05-15-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ticktack

Witch hunt or not, if he (patryn) were upfront and honest about his business practices then this thread would not exist and people would not be able to throw accusations whether they be true or not.

Many of my questions/accusations have been ignored, if he had nothing to hide he would answer them.

That's simple logic.

Upfront and honest about business practices in the scam arena???

Just about everyone who feeds of this industry hides behind hidden who is....Fake name and tell nothing about their business...

How come only Patryn has to be up front and honest about his business practices??....

**ticktack** · #**439** 05-15-2009, 09:24 AM

Because he's the only one who people have a problem with Numbnuts.

Start a new thread here if you have a problem with any other exchanger and we'll sort it out.

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Originally Posted by okosh

Upfront and honest about business practices in the scam arena???

Just about everyone who feeds of this industry hides behind hidden who is....Fake name and tell nothing about their business...

How come only Patryn has to be up front and honest about his business practices??....

talkgold124 · #**440** 05-15-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Patryn

Are you referring to when Fred banned me? This has

been explained on numerous occasions during the 543534534534

thread/post drama with em222. I was unbanned, apparently by

MrGSH, because it was not a legitimate ban.

no, i wat not talking about when Fred banned, but another mod

banned you a month ago

[QUOTE=talkgold Whether Patryn is a banned TG member or a regular member does not affect the exchanger or the rate at which TG's revenue is exchanged into dollars. [/QUOTE]
then why did you unban him?