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Old 08-07-2009, 05:24 AM
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NICE NICE MR. - But can you tell why LR limited my account since month and give me not any answer????

It´s only one way - they have stolen my money!! VERY VERY SIMPLE
Look, the LR API system have too many bugs. LR authentication system also have too many bugs. I'm sure, that LR don't want to stole your and my money, but LR is an extreme simple system and too much IT tech can hack it... (but other payment systems, except paypal also have security holes, you can read 100,000 pages about it on IT forums)

BIG problem, that LR refuse to help, when the account is hacked.
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:32 PM
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Look, the LR API system have too many bugs. LR authentication system also have too many bugs. I'm sure, that LR don't want to stole your and my money, but LR is an extreme simple system and too much IT tech can hack it... (but other payment systems, except paypal also have security holes, you can read 100,000 pages about it on IT forums)

BIG problem, that LR refuse to help, when the account is hacked.
Stop telling stupid things. If there was even one bug in LR login or API, then Patryn's huge account would have been emptied already. Paypal has no bugs either, just more security challenged people. Don't blame the companies when it is your computer that is hacked.
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Old 08-07-2009, 03:29 PM
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Stop telling stupid things. If there was even one bug in LR login or API, then Patryn's huge account would have been emptied already.
interesting discussion.

the 1st security bug: when you register an account, your first password,pin,account id,etc.etc. will be sent to your e-mail address (!) - the mail will be delivered, you will read the mail... tooo many communication via unsecure connection. first of all, delivering password and pin via mail is unprofessional and unsecure, tooo many people can read it.

this is only the first bug... but gotta go.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:19 PM
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LR is performing according to my expectations. They cannot control users who fall for the same old scammer tricks like phishing sites or exchange scams.

They are still the best!
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:00 PM
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Look, the LR API system have too many bugs. LR authentication system also have too many bugs. I'm sure, that LR don't want to stole your and my money, but LR is an extreme simple system and too much IT tech can hack it... (but other payment systems, except paypal also have security holes, you can read 100,000 pages about it on IT forums)

BIG problem, that LR refuse to help, when the account is hacked.


dude , there is absolutely nothing wrong with LR ... their API is secure , their site over all is secure....as for paypal , phishing attacks are a lot easier to perform on paypal because they use a login composed from email + pass ....as simple as that....no pin , no nothing.....all u need is a good US ip to access an US paypal ...too bad u can't use it for jack ...but in terms of gaining access to a Paypal account , Paypal is ages back compared to LR and even Perfect Money....i don't even want to mention Pecunix in this ecuation , which resembles more with a vault than to an ecurreny....
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:40 AM
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Who knows if this company is a scam or not. I think we'll know the answer to that within the next 5 years.

What is for certain is that we know little about the company itself and the people behind it, its support can be pathetic, there is strikingly similar stories - and in some cases - supporting evidence to suggest that their API can be broken into easily and that people's accounts can be permanently limited without explanation... Inconsistent behavior is strange.

It's hard to trust a company that has 'survey winners' in their blog and decides to group with complete unknowns like HD-Money.
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Old 08-16-2009, 02:12 PM
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Who knows if this company is a scam or not. I think we'll know the answer to that within the next 5 years.

What is for certain is that we know little about the company itself and the people behind it, its support can be pathetic, there is strikingly similar stories - and in some cases - supporting evidence to suggest that their API can be broken into easily and that people's accounts can be permanently limited without explanation... Inconsistent behavior is strange.

It's hard to trust a company that has 'survey winners' in their blog and decides to group with complete unknowns like HD-Money.
People always like to blame someone else instead of themselves. "My small VPS server couldn't been hacked (by programmer or sysadmin or a backdoor in a purchased script), but I prefer blaming liberty reserve and their API ..."

Follow this rule: Don't do stupid things in any place and you will not get punished. I do not know why your account is blocked, but I guess you did something stupid.
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Old 08-16-2009, 02:25 PM
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You can refute my claim, and you can say it's my fault (perhaps for trusting this company).. but the only thing stupid with the situation is their lack of support. That support should be there no matter whose fault it is.

I won't debate about my issue, I've already stated my case and it has already been confirmed.
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:11 PM
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Who knows if this company is a scam or not. I think we'll know the answer to that within the next 5 years.

What is for certain is that we know little about the company itself and the people behind it, its support can be pathetic, there is strikingly similar stories - and in some cases - supporting evidence to suggest that their API can be broken into easily and that people's accounts can be permanently limited without explanation... Inconsistent behavior is strange.

It's hard to trust a company that has 'survey winners' in their blog and decides to group with complete unknowns like HD-Money.
hehehe, and in 5 years you will say we will see in 10 years. I think they have been around long enough to be considered at least decent digital currency. As for api evidence, i am assuming you are referring to the very credible source provided by an anonymous user, behind proxy, that most likely used that excuse to take money from some hyip or other business he has been doing. Good thing you have mentioned inconsistent behavior. That is one thing i have to give to you - your lies are consistent. If i would have a digital currency to to b.s. about - you would be the first one on my list to be hired ;-)

To other companies - please do not have any surveys and do not announce any winners. it is a sure sign of shady practice, for at least one person.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:50 AM
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hehehe, and in 5 years you will say we will see in 10 years. I think they have been around long enough to be considered at least decent digital currency. As for api evidence, i am assuming you are referring to the very credible source provided by an anonymous user, behind proxy, that most likely used that excuse to take money from some hyip or other business he has been doing. Good thing you have mentioned inconsistent behavior. That is one thing i have to give to you - your lies are consistent. If i would have a digital currency to to b.s. about - you would be the first one on my list to be hired ;-)
Some of the greatest scams were by companies that were established for a long time. But I feel liberty reserve, as a company, is still relatively young at this stage. It hasn't properly matured yet.

What I said is that there are strikingly similar stories. And in some cases there is supporting evidence (such as screenshots) to suggest that there is an issue with their API. If someone's computer is hacked, wouldn't it make more sense to login to the account directly? And what about those who claim to have never given away their API password? You must look into each claim, credible or not. You can't just automatically refute complaints about a company.. it's foolish. I believe it's quite easy to tell when someone is lying.

Personally, I have never lied. I'm just posting my 2 cents, and my other thread is a complaint which was even confirmed by Patryn - who at least provided some assistance. A thread which I posted every bit of information I have available to me, short of giving my account password.

And thanks for your offer. Likewise, you would be the first I would hire to give a new design to ignorance.com

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