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09-14-2009, 09:20 PM
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Re: SportArbs - sportarbs.com
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Originally Posted by ivaho
Head office: 401 Al Zarouni Business centre, Sheikh Zayed Road, Barsha First, Dubai, UAE. P.O. Box Number 116171
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Yeah, great I'm going to travel to Dudai and spend $2,000 for airfare to talk with a PO Box, hahahahaha....
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09-15-2009, 12:29 AM
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I'm just an investor like the rest of you, and since I am being paid that is the only reason I'm backing this program. This will be my last entry, so go luck on your quest AccountanT. I'll post this also on the other forum and that is the last you will see me here and there!
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09-15-2009, 05:02 AM
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Re: SportArbs - sportarbs.com
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Originally Posted by hdubin
Official response from management:
Regarding Shatle on TG,:
This woman accepted new rules of charge implementation without reading them. That means that she type I AGREE only to get access to her account. She didn't notice that if she doesn't agree she shouldn't enter her account and she should have contacted our service support.
This is just a cause to blackmail our company as this woman with her account less than USD 10 demanded USD 1000 from us for the reason that we charged this commission without noticing her.
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That's a lie! This company of thiefs stole my money and time and now claims that I blackmail it. Nobody blackmailed it, they was afraid of the truth that I told about them and the only thing they could do is to wrote letters to me praising their lousy company that stole money of thousand small investors. SCAM and FRAUD. Also, all their arb numbers can be taken from various arb scanners in Internet, nobody can proof that they make real betting. THIEFS and LIERS. I never demanded any money from them. Their post confirms how miserable they are trying to deceive people. The complete lie, nothing is true.
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09-15-2009, 05:10 AM
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Do not trust your money to this company. Not only they stole thousands of dollars of small investors, but also pervert the correspondence with them and publicly accuse others with blackmail. This is ridiculous. "...demanded USD 1000 from us..." - why not $10000 or a million? Stupid idiots.
AccountanT posted very logical questions to SportArbs. To make sport betting, one should use Moneybookers, Visa cards, etc. How they convert LR, PM to those payment systems and back? Through exchangers that take large %? I hardly believe so. Also, look at those exchangers - their cash stock and turnover! They exchange only small amounts. Also, for example, if you send money to Moneybookers through any exchanger, they most likely block your acccount. And so on...
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09-15-2009, 06:39 PM
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Re: SportArbs - sportarbs.com
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Originally Posted by shatle
...Also, all their arb numbers can be taken from various arb scanners in Internet, nobody can proof that they make real betting.
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This is what I'm afraid of.
Just a display of nice stats to deceive the investors.
The end results would be the same if they would have said they invest in central-Asian oil exploration, or Pacific algae production, or copper mining in Kamchatka, or solar energy production in Patagonia, whatever...
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09-15-2009, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AccountanT
This is what I'm afraid of.
Just a display of nice stats to deceive the investors.
The end results would be the same if they would have said they invest in central-Asian oil exploration, or Pacific algae production, or copper mining in Kamchatka, or solar energy production in Patagonia, whatever...
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If you look at listed bookmakers in free and paid arb scanners, you can understand, that you may simply lose your money, because they may not return them, they are not reliable. Only a few of them are considered reliable.
Also, many bookmakers require identity proof, address proof, they does not give out money immediately, only after some period, they have 5% deposit commission, etc. Usually, professional better should spend all working time to make bets.
Therefore, to play these arb bettings, you must have proofed accounts in many of them, may be 20-30. And nobody accepts LR or PM. So I do not believe that they are making actual bets, this is too troublesome matter.
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09-15-2009, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AccountanT
Yeah, great I'm going to travel to Dudai and spend $2,000 for airfare to talk with a PO Box, hahahahaha....
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Send them a fax and request to visit their office, but you should write a good reason. It was the reply for my similar question which I sent in the past.
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I never demanded any money from them
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I will make you a favour and ask them about proofs of their claims, so we will see who is lying.
@AccountanT your some arguments are so naive but I will make you a favour too and reply to one of your questions:
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A. Right now, the investing of money in your "program" is possible just using 2 e-currency payment processors, plus you do not plan in the future to add serious payment processors (like direct credit card processing form on your web-site or PayPal), just some other e-currency payment processors.
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Your question show how newbie you are and how undereducated. I will reply by sending the question: Do you know any reliable on-line investment program that accept paypal or moneybookers deposits? I am sure that you know, because you wrote that: "All the serious financial institutions of the world are using some kind of serious payment processor too", but please make me a favour and count them
Regarding bank deposits, if you know international law, it is not so easy to offer direct bank deposit option for international members, they are a young company, so maybe they need to investigate legal issues. I can`t just say like you: "No wire transfer available so they are thieves and scammers". So following your logical I can state that "if you are using LR it means that you are avoiding your national tax obligations". Not logical isn`t?
Even if they accept wire I am sure that you will state that it means nothing, many previous and current hyip-scams accept wires isn`t?.
I have no time and sufficient knowledge to reply to all your issues, and I would be surprised if Sportarbs has, but I am sure that any reply would be not accepted by you.
@AccountanT I have some questions to you, please reply. which hyips in your opinion are reliable? You mentioned in your previous posts about some reliable hyips. Please public their names.
Second question, what is your opinion about GNI?
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09-16-2009, 12:10 AM
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I will make you a favour and ask them about proofs of their claims, so we will see who is lying.
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Ivaho, do you really want me to post what happened between me and their support? Please think twice, because I think your Sportarbs will not like it. Their reputation will fall even more, if I write the truth. Almost everything they wrote about me through hdubin is a lie. Probably, only account history is true. It is amazing how they write these lies, if they know that I can easily proof otherwise. Do you really want me to post the truth? Ask Sportarbs - do they really want me to post the truth?
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09-16-2009, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by shatle
Ivaho, do you really want me to post what happened between me and their support? Please think twice, because I think your Sportarbs will not like it. Their reputation will fall even more, if I write the truth. Almost everything they wrote about me is a lie. It is amazing how they write these lies, if they know that I can easily proof otherwise. Do you really want me to post the truth?
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why Ivaho should think once or twice, why would he to think at all.
If you say that they were lying, prove it, it's in your best interest not Ivaho or someone else
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09-16-2009, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph
why Ivaho should think once or twice, why would he to think at all.
If you say that they were lying, prove it, it's in your best interest not Ivaho or someone else
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I totally agree with Joseph here.
Ivaho has nothing to do with and about what happened between you and the sportarbs customer service.
It is in your and everyone's best interest to post every proof or info you have about all this, ... this of course if you have any real proof.
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