The thing I didn't like was the fact that everybody already invested in fields 2 and 3 are being put into fields 4 and 5. If he would have let everybody invested in those fields stay there till their term expired, but closed them to new investors, I would have been happy.
I joined up to make 28% weekly (you don't get principle back) then suddenly he changed it to 20% monthly for 3 months. Quite a bit of difference. Just the old "bait and switch" I guess. Put a high rate up to draw in the investors and then drop it to one of the lowest rates of any HYIPs I've seen.
Yes, his program might become the next Feeder Fund, as far as being a good, long term investment for large sums of money, but I have only a small amout of money that I'm willing to take risks with to get high returns, in order to grow it quickly. Yes, I want the 144% for around 20 days with 12Daily Pro, or 200% in 30 days with Exp-invest. With some luck, I might grow my money enough to want to place it in a safe, low-risk Sunflower Seed.
At least Karsten is offering refunds and I've taken him up on that. Best of luck to him and Sunflower Seed.
Yes, Cod, I agree 100%. I`m very unhappy with the new plans and I doubt I`ll invest in Sunflower again. If he had let us stay in our current plan till it expired, it wouldn`t be so bad.
At least Karsten is offering refunds and I've taken him up on that. Best of luck to him and Sunflower Seed.
Can anyone else verify this? It is too early to just & say that he is a scammer. If he is offering refunds, then why would he do this if he was a scammer?
He should have some time to prove himself. If he was going to scam people then why did he close the financial section? He would have left it open to attract people that hasn't seen these post. It will make for a better program if he does come back with what he is saying.
He said something about leaving the forums @ his site open. I can't seem to get to his site. I get the sunflowerseed picture in the far left in the address bar for the URL. It is a 404 Not Found. Can anyone else still get to his forum? I was able to get to it early this morning, but not now.
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Well, I can't be bothered in the moment...to anything. Yes, I know 'Sunflower Seed' will go downhill with these changes. Perhaps its something what I want? Don't really know.
I thought about to close the program temporary untill I have opened a managed forex account. Then write a new script with fixed monthly (and weekly) payouts at fixed dates, something like to payout between the 1st and 7th of the month. Then provide every member with screenshots of the trading account and actual real live datas. And pay every member his deposit + profit back. I expect this will need a maximum of a month to install.
I think its better than close the program and run away, isn't it? Hey, you all are gambling here every day, doesn't know it?? I think all of you are here to gamble!? If not, why not go to your bank and give them your money? Thats safer.
Well, I'm an original guy and want anytime tell the truth. And I decided I will do it now:
At the first I thought I will run a ponzi scheme. A little program which can last 3 or 4 month. I don't expected that 'Sunflower Seed' and me will grow so fast so big!
Be a Scammer, that run a ponzi scheme, seems not very difficult in this scene. Here are too much people who are willing to play this game. To gamble. It was my first business online and never done it before. So I hadn't any experience in that and how the people will look at me. But it seems a serious, trustfullness guy is what this scene have never seen and what the people need. And in the reallife I'm a really honest person too and want the best for everyone. But this scene makes it too easy to scam people. Its the internet, I never know anyone here personally. So its not too difficult to play the scammer, because of the morality.
But know 'Sunflower Seed' seems a very strong business and many people know this name in the scene. So I want make a real investment opportunity, but 'real' means any profit lower than 20% per month. Anyone here really believe he can make more than 20% per month?? Hey, wake up, folks!! Come down to the real world and don't dream a rich life with payouts like 5% per DAY?!?! Oh well... there are many naives in this scene, sorry to say. And thats the reason for the easy way to scamming.
I chosed the maximum deposit amount of $1000 wisely because I don't want ruin anyone. I want really build up a real investment business. But this means, I cannot pay out everyone now. Furthermore there are some bugs in the script now and I have no time to fix them, because tomorror I go on a vacation. This was planned a long time ago and hasn't anything to do with 'Sunflower Seed'. A good friend should come in and manage the support at the time I am on the vacation. But now I can't sustain the high payouts anymore AND the script has now some bugs AND ... the server is in the moment down. *grrr* (send a support ticket, will be up again in the next half hour)
So you can see...many things are now happen at the same time and I'm tired because I sit yesterday 18 hours at the PC and got only 4 hours of sleep.
I can't be bothered... and the last DDOS attack was stressful to me too.
Your funds are here. Safe. So to say. You know my honesty and therefore here are the real stats of 'Sunflower Seed' at the moment:
Active members: 678
Deposited: $75,696.35
Withdrawn: $32,344.88
Liquid in the pool: $43,351.47
My plans now:
1. Close the 'Financial Area' on 'Sunflower Seed'.
2. Go on a 2 week vacation, from July 30th (tomorrow) to August 15th (was planned long before 'Sunflower Seed'). And no, not to the Bermudas. Its a vacation into the nature.
3. Come back here and have a look to all the angry and sad comments about me and 'Sunflower Seed'. And the emails too...
4. Contact some traders (I know some who are willing to manage an account) and setup a trading account with the money in the Liquid pool of 'Sunflower Seed'.
5. Come back to 'Sunflower Seed' and setup a new script with variable payouts, paid monthly (or weekly, don't know it yet).
6. Provide everyone with the complete details about the trading account, the trades, screenshots etc. to prove the money is real traded.
7. ... see what the future will bring ... and I'm a little nervous about what the comments will now be on this post.
Please keep in mind: I had to run away with the money, keep the $43,351.47 on my own bank account and live some good days with it. But this is not what I really want. I believe I can have more out of it if I run 'Sunflower Seed' further into the future. But with real investments and real profits.
Everyone will get a refund. Guaranteed. Because I have the complete details about the deposit of each member. Its only a matter of time.
And one little hint at least:
Don't believe you can make much money on HYIPs. Its not possible. The average return is quite low and the agitation is very high. I don't like that. I'm not a typical gambler. I played the game of an investor many times and don't like it. If you like this feeling of don't know if you win or lose, than play it. For me I want a secure and stable life. I want know what I can get. I don't want live in a rich house with a swimming pool and tennis courts. I want live a family life. A house in the greens (nature) and know what I have and know what I can get. All people will get their money back, after I installed the managed forex account.
'Sunflower Seed' is now closed untill further notice. The forum is open, you can continue to write here if you want.
To all other people: Please don't be angry or cry. Thats the normal life in this scene but with one exception:
The other Admins close their sites and will not be seen anymore. And your funds are lost forever. Not here. I will come back. And your funds too.
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