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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:18 AM
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PTV already posted that they are paying selectively smaller amounts. Why would this be a surprise???
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I received $613.20 in several payments:

4/17/2010 06:19 35799060 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $38.20
4/17/2010 06:19 35799058 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $35.00
4/17/2010 06:19 35799056 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $12.00
4/17/2010 06:19 35799050 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $88.00
4/17/2010 06:19 35799048 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $44.00
4/17/2010 06:19 35799046 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $51.00
4/17/2010 06:19 35799042 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $75.00
4/17/2010 06:19 35799036 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $45.00
4/17/2010 06:19 35799026 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $52.00
4/17/2010 06:19 35799022 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $58.00
4/17/2010 06:18 35799020 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $55.00
4/17/2010 06:18 35799018 U2631734 (PTVWithdraw5) + $60.00
is it "smaller amounts"???
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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:00 PM
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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:07 PM
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ANY bank or financial institution that experiences a "run" on their deposits faces financial difficulties. *NO* bank has the liquidity to pay ALL of their depositors at once. (Yes, yes, I know Garrett/PTVP is not a bank ... but the principle still stands.)

Garrett had the misfortune of his servers going down for 4 days. That made people nervous and too many wanted to withdraw their monies at the same time.

As I see it, PTVP is a quasi-Ponzi scheme. They *do* have the silica mine that brings in "outside" cash ... but I *think* they're still reliant on new money coming in to keep payouts on track.

The best thing that investors can do at this point is to stop panicking and let your money "ride" for the time being. (You shouldn't have invested more than you can afford to lose, anyway, right??)

I believe Garrett is an honest man and is trying to do right by us. He just suffered a "server misfortune". Those who are panicking, instead of waiting it out, are aggravating the problem. (I've got over $40K invested with Garrett and I'm not worried.)

Get easy-in-the-saddle and stop spreading doom-and-gloom and this will work itself out.

There *are* electronic issues that are beyond Garrett's control. If you didn't listen to Friday's call, it's worth 40 minutes of your time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOGTucJ7Za8

Best regards,

Bruce
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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:12 PM
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Anybody from PTV have anything to say? (Please do NOT even think of referring me to the chat!) Garret or someone from PTV a few months ago had the time to come to ASA to recruit investors - and in times like these I would think the same time could be made available by them now. That is say if there are real explanations to be given not just empty promises that are not being kept.
All chat is going to do is tell you to put in a support ticket. The mods may have a little more info on things but that's it.

There is nothing to do with this except wait and see. If you have money in them just hope you can get it back and maybe a small profit.

I surly hope they can come back rather than fold. But as soon as this type of thing happens where they fall back on payments ppl start to panic and lose faith.
That just causes more withdrawals of not only profits but principle as well. When too much of that happens the admin just may think this is not worth all the heartache anymore and throws the towel in.

Then all the ppl that said (I knew it would happen) have a field day. They're right there with their (I TOLD YOU SO).

It seems like some wish it to happen. It makes them feel good to see ppl lose money.



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But as soon as I have all payments back I will only observe this venture passively,
there is a good deal of trust to regain before I even consider to reinvest again.
That's exactly the kind thing that will cause the collapse of a program. I know you want to minimize your loses but if you are in profit and you can see your way clear you should leave something there to keep the program going. If we all just ask for all our money back (everyone jumping ship so to speak) the program will go under. That's what the all negative postings cause. It happens too often where a good program has a bad run of luck and right away all the negative posts are made and everyone runs.

Lets try not to run so fast and give it chance to catch it's breath.



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What ever happened to this being a genuine opportunity and therefore not reliant on new or existing money in order to keep it going?
Investors have every right to pull out their funds if there are the usual signs of uncertainty and if this opportunity was even remotely real and Garrett has access to millions of dollars of mining revenue, it shouldn't really matter if an investor remains or decides to pull out should it?
If this program does collapse, it would be because the revenue streams were bogus and there never really was any mining to begin with.
Food for thought.
You are absolutely right. Investors have that right, And if you believe that it's not dependent on new money to keep going then then I have a bridge to sell you.
I'm guessing you know otherwise. I don't believe one word of what any of these guys say. True you can't ignore the signs. They are there right in front of you.
But you also can't ignore the fact that he is trying and if we all just ask for our money back and leave nothing for them to work with it will most certainly go under.
As I said in my other post if you can afford to and only if you can afford to please leave something there.
I myself am not in profit and wont be for some time. I was hoping to see this go forward and make money a little money from it. But all the negativity just causes more and more problems. That does no good to any of these HYIPs.

Of course I don't mind seeing the ones that are scams right from the start go under. It serves them right because they're only there to rob you.

I just saw one last what 5 days or was it 4. The guy still has a site up and is accepting money from ppl even tho the forums say it's a scam.

At least this one is trying. We don't need to add fuel to the fire and force it to topple.
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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:54 PM
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Facing these problems it is no wonder that investors withdraw their money.
That is clear to everybody, admins included.
To leave money in is hazardous an not recommended. Maybe a small amount out of profits, ok.

I have seen it much too often that after this kind of problems a program collapsed completely.
So I think you are wrong with your advice @randyq5@! If they cannot cope with this they shall go down and rightly so! A pure Ponzi is not a thing to support. Look at this gold program. Doesn't it ring a bell, set a red flag?

So I'd say, they have to prove that they are for real otherwise I'm out.

Predictor
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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:16 PM
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I think ptv is scam now. we should move our money to other new good programs. good luck!
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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:28 PM
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My opinion? They are about run away with the safe... the video on Youtube is a load of c...p, they are only taking more time with their huge newsletters. I've already kissed goodbye my money
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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:47 PM
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Do not invest in ptvpartner!

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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 04:50 PM
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Do not invest in ptvpartner!
How can we invest if "Host '91.205.40.103' is blocked"???
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Re: Ptvpartner - Ptvpartner.com
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:07 PM
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Time to move this one to the scam section. The naysayers were right again. Imagine that. Looks like Garrett/Xaiver has pulled a runner after that big meeting he had saying he would not. Everything he said were lies but its expected from a hyip scammer admin. They are the lowest forms of life on the planet. I wish you all the best but pay attention to us if you join another scam.
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