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[olyana]

Deposit:
Date : 11/27/2009 19:09
From/To Account : U1073035
Amount : -30.15
Currency : USD
Batch : 1651322
Memo : Sent Payment 30.00 USD to account U1073035. Memo: Shopping Cart Payment. Deposit money for PT1533276.
Payment ID : 1533276

[silvergran]

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https://www.ptvpartner.com/chat_room...iliate=1532805

Everything will be provided, just bring you and your keyboard!!!!!!

[kee007]

11/28/2009 00:16 23638821 U8298438 (PTVW2) + $12.00 $0.12
Memo: PTV Partner Withdrawal # 2958

Another referral commission,thanks admin

[faroind]

Paying!
Withdrawal from Leverage plan

Date : 2009-28-11 00:16:54
From/To Account : U8298438 (PTVW2)
Amount : 217.5000
Currency : LRUSD
Batch : 23638817
Memo : PTV Partner Withdrawal # 2956

[ModZ]

@ Garrett, Admin of PTV Partner

Garrett, I am one of your PTV Partner Moderators. As such I believe that you have brought us a unique program, different from the majority of very strong HYIP-s, and I have much respect for you.

I am making this following post expressing my own views about this issue and also those of a small , but long time PTV Partner investors.
I and we are publicly addressing you this very important issue, and also I, we are expecting a public answer here, in this thread.

For PTV partner to prove that is not just a PONZI program, and to also be able to deliver at least a livable wage at western standard to all investors over a long period of time you MUST seriously think to do the following:

Step 1:
Limit forever the number of investors to maximum 5,000
When that number will be reached declare the program closed forever for new investors.
Exception: Let in new people only if old investors are surrendering there PTV Partner positions forever - new investors in equal number to those leaving.

************

Step 2:
If the program will stop for a while at maximum $10 million active investment until further expansion is possible limit the maximum active investments per investor to maximum $5,000.

Reason: $5,000 X 5,000 = $25 million (which in a lot higher than the total possible active investments, but maybe still many members will have investments under $2,000 at that time).
Do it on the first came first served basis, meaning that those who touch the $5,000 active investment first, will have this limit standing until further expansion, and others just as it will be possible under the active investment cap.

If investors at the highest limit will have the 30 day plan (which pays 45%) the maximum possible to make will be $2,250 per month.
We can account for average 5% losses with money transfers until this amount reaches the people's bank accounts, so really we can talk here about $2,137 real money.

For those living in strict legislation we also must calculate the income tax, which let's say is 15% from this amount.
This leaves $1,816 per month - which barely assures a living at traditional westerns standards, but it's still a livable wage.

***********

Step 3:
If ever the program gets green light to have the active investment cap at $100 million, than make this individual active investment cap $20,000 for each and every investor (again, like in step 2, this no matter how many individual accounts may have one person, or how many investment plans, this is the total max possible).

Reason: $20,000 x 5,000 = $100 million.
If investors at the highest limit will have the 30 day plan (which pays 45%) the maximum possible to make will be $9,000 per month.
Again, we can account for average 5% losses with money transfers until this amount reaches the people's bank accounts, so really we can talk here about $8,550 real money.

For those living in strict legislation we also must calculate the income tax, which let's say is 25% from this amount.
This leaves $6,412 per month - which assures a nice living, but in no way riches, and extra stuff.

********************************

Garrett, please respond here ASAP - even if your choice is not ready yet regarding these number issues.

If you will not respond or your response will be totally negative unfortunately myself and many other faithful PTV-ers would think that mathematically the PTV Partner is impossible or is not well planned to be fair to all investors and to also make possible to offer a living just from these investments to all investors.
Or, which is lot worst, maybe we will think that PTV Partner may be just a nicely designed PONZI, which is just into attracting a very high number of investors, with no real concerns for the involved individuals situations.


ModZ
PTV Partner Moderator
(I wish to keep my identity not public for the time being)

[PTVpartner]

Originally Posted by ModZ

@ Garrett, Admin of PTV Partner

Garrett, I am one of your PTV Partner Moderators. As such I believe that you have brought us a unique program, different from the majority of very strong HYIP-s, and I have much respect for you.

I am making this following post expressing my own views about this issue and also those of a small , but long time PTV Partner investors.
I and we are publicly addressing you this very important issue, and also I, we are expecting a public answer here, in this thread.

For PTV partner to prove that is not just a PONZI program, and to also be able to deliver at least a livable wage at western standard to all investors over a long period of time you MUST seriously think to do the following:

Step 1:
Limit forever the number of investors to maximum 5,000
When that number will be reached declare the program closed forever for new investors.
Exception: Let in new people only if old investors are surrendering there PTV Partner positions forever - new investors in equal number to those leaving.

************

Step 2:
If the program will stop for a while at maximum $10 million active investment until further expansion is possible limit the maximum active investments per investor to maximum $5,000.

Reason: $5,000 X 5,000 = $25 million (which in a lot higher than the total possible active investments, but maybe still many members will have investments under $2,000 at that time).
Do it on the first came first served basis, meaning that those who touch the $5,000 active investment first, will have this limit standing until further expansion, and others just as it will be possible under the active investment cap.

If investors at the highest limit will have the 30 day plan (which pays 45%) the maximum possible to make will be $2,250 per month.
We can account for average 5% losses with money transfers until this amount reaches the people's bank accounts, so really we can talk here about $2,137 real money.

For those living in strict legislation we also must calculate the income tax, which let's say is 15% from this amount.
This leaves $1,816 per month - which barely assures a living at traditional westerns standards, but it's still a livable wage.

***********

Step 3:
If ever the program gets green light to have the active investment cap at $100 million, than make this individual active investment cap $20,000 for each and every investor (again, like in step 2, this no matter how many individual accounts may have one person, or how many investment plans, this is the total max possible).

Reason: $20,000 x 5,000 = $100 million.
If investors at the highest limit will have the 30 day plan (which pays 45%) the maximum possible to make will be $9,000 per month.
Again, we can account for average 5% losses with money transfers until this amount reaches the people's bank accounts, so really we can talk here about $8,550 real money.

For those living in strict legislation we also must calculate the income tax, which let's say is 25% from this amount.
This leaves $6,412 per month - which assures a nice living, but in no way riches, and extra stuff.

********************************

Garrett, please respond here ASAP - even if your choice is not ready yet regarding these number issues.

If you will not respond or your response will be totally negative unfortunately myself and many other faithful PTV-ers would think that mathematically the PTV Partner is impossible or is not well planned to be fair to all investors and to also make possible to offer a living just from these investments to all investors.
Or, which is lot worst, maybe we will think that PTV Partner may be just a nicely designed PONZI, which is just into attracting a very high number of investors, with no real concerns for the involved individuals situations.


ModZ
PTV Partner Moderator
(I wish to keep my identity not public for the time being)

I appreciate the suggestions.

you should speak with me personally as well.

[olyana]

Deposit and referral commission payment:

Date : 11/28/2009 00:09
From/To Account : U1346207
Amount : 1.02
Currency : USD
Batch : 1652313
Memo : Received Payment 1.02 USD from account U1346207. Memo: API Payment.
Payment ID : 2959

Date : 11/28/2009 00:09
From/To Account : U1346207
Amount : 27.5
Currency : USD
Batch : 1652317
Memo : Received Payment 27.5 USD from account U1346207. Memo: API Payment.
Payment ID : 2979

***1058;hanks admin

[polaksss]

Date : 2009-28-11 00:17:20
From/To Account : U8298438 (PTVW2)
Amount : 3.6000
Currency : LRUSD
Batch : 23638865
Memo : PTV Partner Withdrawal # 2984

[faroind]

Invested in Prestige plan

Date : 2009-28-11 04:09:40
From/To Account : U8774564 (PTVD1)
Amount : -200.0000
Currency : LRUSD
Batch : 23646930
Memo : Deposit money for PT1532695 28.10.2009

[hyipsurf]

11/28/2009 00:16 23638805 U8298438 (PTVW2) + $6.00

Paying!