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to all members:
Well, I can't be bothered in the moment...to anything. Yes, I know
'Sunflower Seed' will go downhill with these changes. Perhaps its something
what I want? Don't really know.
I thought about to close the program temporary untill I have opened a
managed forex account. Then write a new script with fixed monthly (and
weekly) payouts at fixed dates, something like to payout between the 1st
and 7th of the month. Then provide every member with screenshots of the
trading account and actual real live datas. And pay every member his
deposit + profit back. I expect this will need a maximum of a month to
install.
I think its better than close the program and run away, isn't it? Hey,
you all are gambling here every day, doesn't know it?? I think all of
you are here to gamble!? If not, why not go to your bank and give them
your money? Thats safer.
Well, I'm an original guy and want anytime tell the truth. And I
decided I will do it now:
At the first I thought I will run a ponzi scheme. A little program
which can last 3 or 4 month. I don't expected that 'Sunflower Seed' and me
will grow so fast so big!
Be a Scammer, that run a ponzi scheme, seems not very difficult in this
scene. Here are too much people who are willing to play this game. To
gamble. It was my first business online and never done it before. So I
hadn't any experience in that and how the people will look at me. But it
seems a serious, trustfullness guy is what this scene have never seen
and what the people need. And in the reallife I'm a really honest person
too and want the best for everyone. But this scene makes it too easy to
scam people. Its the internet, I never know anyone here personally. So
its not too difficult to play the scammer, because of the morality.
But know 'Sunflower Seed' seems a very strong business and many people
know this name in the scene. So I want make a real investment
opportunity, but 'real' means any profit lower than 20% per month. Anyone here
really believe he can make more than 20% per month?? Hey, wake up,
folks!! Come down to the real world and don't dream a rich life with payouts
like 5% per DAY?!?! Oh well... there are many naives in this scene,
sorry to say. And thats the reason for the easy way to scamming.
I chosed the maximum deposit amount of $1000 wisely because I don't
want ruin anyone. I want really build up a real investment business. But
this means, I cannot pay out everyone now. Furthermore there are some
bugs in the script now and I have no time to fix them, because tomorror I
go on a vacation. This was planned a long time ago and hasn't anything
to do with 'Sunflower Seed'. A good friend should come in and manage
the support at the time I am on the vacation. But now I can't sustain the
high payouts anymore AND the script has now some bugs AND ... the
server is in the moment down. *grrr* (send a support ticket, will be up
again in the next half hour)
So you can see...many things are now happen at the same time and I'm
tired because I sit yesterday 18 hours at the PC and got only 4 hours of
sleep.
I can't be bothered... and the last DDOS attack was stressful to me
too.
Your funds are here. Safe. So to say. You know my honesty and therefore
here are the real stats of 'Sunflower Seed' at the moment:
Active members: 678
Deposited: $75,696.35
Withdrawn: $32,344.88
Liquid in the pool: $43,351.47
My plans now:
1. Close the 'Financial Area' on 'Sunflower Seed'.
2. Go on a 2 week vacation, from July 30th (tomorrow) to August 15th
(was planned long before 'Sunflower Seed'). And no, not to the Bermudas.
Its a vacation into the nature.
3. Come back here and have a look to all the angry and sad comments
about me and 'Sunflower Seed'. And the emails too...
4. Contact some traders (I know some who are willing to manage an
account) and setup a trading account with the money in the Liquid pool of
'Sunflower Seed'.
5. Come back to 'Sunflower Seed' and setup a new script with variable
payouts, paid monthly (or weekly, don't know it yet).
6. Provide everyone with the complete details about the trading
account, the trades, screenshots etc. to prove the money is real traded.
7. ... see what the future will bring ... and I'm a little nervous
about what the comments will now be on this post.
Please keep in mind: I had to run away with the money, keep the
$43,351.47 on my own bank account and live some good days with it. But this is
not what I really want. I believe I can have more out of it if I run
'Sunflower Seed' further into the future. But with real investments and
real profits.
Everyone will get a refund. Guaranteed. Because I have the complete
details about the deposit of each member. Its only a matter of time.
And one little hint at least:
Don't believe you can make much money on HYIPs. Its not possible. The
average return is quite low and the agitation is very high. I don't like
that. I'm not a typical gambler. I played the game of an investor many
times and don't like it. If you like this feeling of don't know if you
win or lose, than play it. For me I want a secure and stable life. I
want know what I can get. I don't want live in a rich house with a
swimming pool and tennis courts. I want live a family life. A house in the
greens (nature) and know what I have and know what I can get. All people
will get their money back, after I installed the managed forex account.
'Sunflower Seed' is now closed untill further notice. The forum is
open, you can continue to write here if you want.
To all other people: Please don't be angry or cry. Thats the normal
life in this scene but with one exception:
The other Admins close their sites and will not be seen anymore. And
your funds are lost forever. Not here. I will come back. And your funds
too.
WOW i remember, when it first started.. everyone could not say enough good things about sunflower.... what do you people base these assumptions on???? how can one ponzi possibly look different than other without SOLID evidence of profits...
one more down the drain and if i had put in 500USD , it would have been GONEEEEE....
i feel bad for people who lost money with him... 600+ people.
Firstly:
I'm not this "Karsten Henke" with these address details. Please don't threaten the poor man at this address. I've changed these details in my domain some days after SunflowerSeed starts but I don't know why anyone must spread out these faked address details again and again.
Well, it takes no more than 2-3 days to setup a managed forex account because I have looked into this in the last. It's a few phone calls, a meeting, and an initial deposit with the forex guys.
Today is August 24th. That's 8 BUSINESS days after your return and you claim your still "setting up an account"? Give me a break, and my money back also.
Today, I open the sunflowerseed.org homepage and redirected to tripod.com..
hmm..
This is the message:
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Site is temporary closed.
I'm on the way to open a managed forex account.
- no refunds at this time.
- all members will get a profit out of the managed forex account and can withdraw their initial investment after a resonable time.
- the trades will be showed so anyone can be sure its real trading and how much profit will be earned (between 8% and 15% per month).
- the site will be updated: new layout and a new script.
Karsten
Admin of 'Sunflower Seed'
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perhaps It will up again .. I invest hundreds here...
But now, I don't care with HYIP, I have traded by myself since this August using Marketiva, and I still try the FXCM demo..
I feel this one will be resurrected from the scam folder soon. Setting aside his attitude, comments, and major program changes, looking under the surface and reading between the lines tells me he's made entirely too much effort. Look at all the negatives across all the forms and hostile behavior toward him after the way he has acted, yet he continues to communicate and persevere toward some future ressurection.
When he does come back, he'll probably only have a few handfuls of people that trust him. Since he will longer be running a Ponzi, he will not need more investors. In fact, scrutinizing his behavior would suggest that his stress would be minimized in an environment with a small group of devoted supporters. The only thing that would conclude his program in the long term would be his immaturity, hackers, or fatigue of the entire arena. Time will tell. Let's wait and see.
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