Uinvest - uinvest.com.ua

[haithem]

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua

Dear Super Moderators and especially mrGSH

My name is Alex Darialov, my company's name UInvest Inc, everyone knows our registration ID, saw our offices and can give us a call. And now who are you, mrGSH? Do you at least have a name?

We're not surprised to see your biased opinions about our company. We don't expect good relation from your side since you're earning money on selling advertisement making people investing to HYIP websites. In 90% of countries HYIPs are illegal and proven scam. Hence, your business is to make people bringing money to scammers

It is very interesting to see how you blame officially registered company (and you admitted it) for doing things you're earning on

Why do you say we're scam? Because we don't buy your banners still being the most successful online program? Or because people see one doesn't need to invest in illegal HYIPs to keep making money? Sorry for affecting your business guys

MrGSH, you should not tell things you are not sure of. Because everyone is responsible for his words, even though he thinks he can hide behind an internet nick

So, let's talk seriously now because I consider your words as an attempt to bring harm to our company. We take it seriously so we are going to take appropriate measures.

Unfortunately, your comments are not clear enough to make any conclusions so I put all together what you said:

1. You think our company is not registered or licensed
2. You think our offices don't exist
3. You think that investment company cannot use open source scripts in their activity

Please add to the list if I forgot something and I will be happy to comment. If you don't add anything I will consider this list full and I will come to comment it. Then, after I give you my answers you will admit you said things you were not aware of and you will bring excuses.

Deal?

ok you say that your company not hyip that stay some months and then turn into scam
although some hyips have real business like macrotrade or safedepositary
ok your company not hyip and owen real bussiness and regesited in united states ok tell us why forexample your company dont use instant payment through libertyreserve like most hyips now?
the strong hyips that have real business use instant payments to make investors trust more in their services
also can you tell us how long uinvest can stay in this markets to not be like scam hyips?
i mean that your company have any plans to continue years in market and investments or they will continue some months and then disappear

[uinvestcomua]

I am glad you responded. Thus we will be able to discuss the matter and come to an informative conclusion.

Originally Posted by mrGSH

I do not know how you came with that ridiculous number of 90% of HYIPs being scams

I never tell 90% of HYIPs are scams, they are all scams. Read carefully what I said -

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua

In 90% of countries HYIPs are illegal and proven scam.

which means there are still countries that don't care what HYIPs are. I am glad you agree that HYIPs are illegal, thus I won't need to explain why I said this forum earns on advertising illegal activity

Originally Posted by mrGSH

If your company were real, how would some post in the internet forum effect it?

Again, you don't read my statements correctly. Here is what I said

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua

So, let's talk seriously now because I consider your words as an attempt to bring harm to our company.

You're obviously making an attempt to bring harm to our company. Of course, such posts on such forum as TG will not have any effect. But still you are making an attempt and you must have good reasons for doing this. Do you?

Originally Posted by mrGSH

You being or not a pyramid and or scam was not my question.... My question was whether or not Calebjor is your webmaster.

Sorry, but you obviously mentioned word 'scam' with regards to our company.
I contacted you through PM because I assumed I got you wrong. However, you didn't respond. Then I asked you in public.

You see, everyone has his own point of view and it is fine. I personally respect everyone's point of view even though it can sound offensive. But in any case I think all reasonable people should base their points on something. I was under impression moderators must be reasonable. And since I am sure you're reasonable person you should provide your reasons to tell we're a 'scam' or bring excuses to our company.

[uinvestcomua]

Originally Posted by haithem

ok you say that your company not hyip that stay some months and then turn into scam
although some hyips have real business like macrotrade or safedepositary
ok your company not hyip and owen real bussiness and regesited in united states ok tell us why forexample your company dont use instant payment through libertyreserve like most hyips now?
the strong hyips that have real business use instant payments to make investors trust more in their services
also can you tell us how long uinvest can stay in this markets to not be like scam hyips?
i mean that your company have any plans to continue years in market and investments or they will continue some months and then disappear

Sometimes I miss my old B&W monitor

Anyway, let me comment.

Originally Posted by haithem

why forexample your company dont use instant payment through libertyreserve like most hyips now?

First of all, there are lots of HYIP things we don't do. HYIPs are illegal, they know it and they have to convince people they will pay. For some months

I think you refer to auto withdrawals? Because we do accept LR payments instantly. We do not do anything automatically because we're semi offline company. All the things we do must be confirmed with our internal accounting and must be reviewed by our security dept. All of our customers and businesses get paid within 24 hrs, which is not bad I guess.

Originally Posted by haithem

also can you tell us how long uinvest can stay in this markets to not be like scam hyips?
i mean that your company have any plans to continue years in market and investments or they will continue some months and then disappear

The point is that we have just started We've been here for 5 years but we have just made first steps to achieve our goals. We're building an online marketplace where shares of global companies will be traded 24/7/365. First online exchange available for everyone. Wherever you are, you can deposit funds and trade shares with no limits. And shares - not giants like Coca Cola or Google, shares of usual businesses you can come and touch like local restaurants or manufactures. They need money, you need shares - this is why UInvest exists and doing well.

Stop fighting, let's make money together, guys. Lots of opportunities are still coming, why waste time posting crap on forums? Making money is better

[mrGSH]

According to YOU all HYIPs are scams.
So here it is:
HYIPs=scam
Uinvest=HYIP
Uinvest=scam
Q.E.D.

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua

I never tell 90% of HYIPs are scams, they are all scams. Read carefully what I said -

Honestly, I do not really care what your company is, and whether it is or isn't.

You're obviously making an attempt to bring harm to our company. Of course, such posts on such forum as TG will not have any effect. But still you are making an attempt and you must have good reasons for doing this. Do you?

No problem... In public is better. I posted short and sweet proof at the beginning of this post, but obviously more can be said... You probably can find a couple yourself ;-)

Sorry, but you obviously mentioned word 'scam' with regards to our company.
I contacted you through PM because I assumed I got you wrong. However, you didn't respond. Then I asked you in public.

You see, everyone has his own point of view and it is fine. I personally respect everyone's point of view even though it can sound offensive. But in any case I think all reasonable people should base their points on something. I was under impression moderators must be reasonable. And since I am sure you're reasonable person you should provide your reasons to tell we're a 'scam' or bring excuses to our company.

Well, Aleksandr, again, your company being or not being a scam was not what I asked. I asked if Calebjor is your web-designer. Is he?

[uinvestcomua]

mrGSH, no, this respected person is not our webmaster and it doesn't really matter now what was your first question - you referred to our company as a 'scam'. I kindly ask you to enlighten us all and explain what you really meant


So far the only explanation I saw is

Originally Posted by mrGSH

According to YOU all HYIPs are scams.
So here it is:
HYIPs=scam
Uinvest=HYIP
Uinvest=scam
Q.E.D.

UInvest is not a HYIP, sorry UInvest makes money by selling shares and earns money on commission it receives from doing this. This information can be easily found in our TOS, studied further by observing our business model and can be confirmed by the fact that we're in the process of getting licensed as a securities broker/dealer in the state of California. Check SEC website and learn more what it is. Seems like you're not aware what you talk about.

Is that the only thing you can say to justify your words? If so, send me request via PM, I will provide you with details of our lawyers in the USA who currently guide UInvest Inc through the licensing process. You will contact them and finally say your excuses in public.

Deal?


P.S. Are there any other more informed moderators who can explain me why we were named as 'scam'? Or you're all the same here? Come on guys, show up!

[mrGSH]

Uinvest is not HYIP?
What about this:

But regardless, if he is not your webmaster, what was that rediculous post about updating your site? Any idea?

Originally Posted by uinvestcomua

mrGSH, no, this respected person is not our webmaster and it doesn't really matter now what was your first question - you referred to our company as a 'scam'. I kindly ask you to enlighten us all and explain what you really meant


So far the only explanation I saw is

UInvest is not a HYIP, sorry UInvest makes money by selling shares and earns money on commission it receives from doing this. This information can be easily found in our TOS, studied further by observing our business model and can be confirmed by the fact that we're in the process of getting licensed as a securities broker/dealer in the state of California. Check SEC website and learn more what it is. Seems like you're not aware what you talk about.

Is that the only thing you can say to justify your words? If so, send me request via PM, I will provide you with details of our lawyers in the USA who currently guide UInvest Inc through the licensing process. You will contact them and finally say your excuses in public.

Deal?


P.S. Are there any other more informed moderators who can explain me why we were named as 'scam'? Or you're all the same here? Come on guys, show up!

[Joseph]

we're in the process of getting licensed as a securities broker/dealer in the state of California

So fact is Uinvest have no US license, thanks for confirmation...

To begin honest with your investors you must also confirm
that Uinvest also have no Ukrainian license or any else to taken investment, but just registered as a some business just like you do it in the state of California.

You must also confirm that your US office is not Real but Virtual office
You must also confirm that you have no Real office in Ukraine too
Address that is provided at your site just some business registration address in Ukraine but not your real office.

Since honest company will not cheat people by the fake or semi false information. You must be not misleading people here, maybe then people would be not call you a scam...

BTW. Ask another time why people call you a scam and you get another facts of yours lying or providing false info and so on, more nothing.

[uinvestcomua]

Originally Posted by mrGSH

Uinvest is not HYIP?
What about this:

But regardless, if he is not your webmaster, what was that rediculous post about updating your site? Any idea?

So you, mrGSH decided that everything that is discussed here is HYIP? You're very smart! Let's discuss Federal Reserve and USA economics here

mrGSH, UInvest plays on this market to give people understanding that you don't need to deal with illegal HYIPs to still make good money online. In other words, our mission is to make you find another ways of income, dear super moderators

BTW, we have a moderator vacancy on our forum, very good salary. mrGSH and Joseph, I can consider your VC

[uinvestcomua]

Originally Posted by Joseph

So fact is Uinvest have no US license, thanks for confirmation...

You're welcome but every uinvestor is aware of it. Getting licensed as a securities broker/dealer is not easy but we wouldn't start this process if we weren't sure about success.

Originally Posted by Joseph

To begin honest with your investors you must also confirm
that Uinvest also have no Ukrainian license or any else to taken investment, but just registered as a some business just like you do it in the state of California.

Sorry, but to you seem to have not enough knowledge on this matter. Being an agent of a bank UInvest is allowed to conduct financial operations You think we run this business for 5 years illegally? Dear Joseph, this is the first thing our lawyers took care of when we started.

Originally Posted by Joseph

You must also confirm that your US office is not Real but Virtual office

I will be happy to help you here Joseph but I can't. 1 person is there all the time, meets people etc. Real people, Joseph, no virtual Moreover, this address is our official address in the state registry which can be also easily verified.

Originally Posted by Joseph

You must also confirm that you have no Real office in Ukraine too
Address that is provided at your site just some business registration address in Ukraine but not your real office.

Can you please elaborate on this? Just please give facts, ok? Of course it is a real address, Joseph. But I can't wait to see your explanations, which I am sure will be provided since you're reasonable, adult person who takes responsibility for his words

Originally Posted by Joseph

Since honest company will not cheat people by the fake or semi false information. You must be not misleading people here, maybe then people would be not call you a scam...

BTW. Ask another time why people call you a scam and you get another facts of yours lying or providing false info and so on, more nothing.

Dear Joseph, people don't call us scam, super moderators do Why people would call us scam if they can just go to our website, read success stories, communicate with 50 people that are now online and give it a try? It doesn't cost a lot to see if all of this real, $15 is a minimum investment.

What is even more funny is that super moderators and HYIP administrators also invest in UInvest. They never tell about this in public though.

[amrutrk]

What I believe about Uinvest is, they're pretty transparent about their business and as they've signed an NDA document with their respective business owners, they've to bind by it. Even huge companies follow NDA if you aren't aware of.

Secondly, I'm a satisfied customer @ Uinvest and if anyone just keeps their comment to just 1 or 2 posts about what they feel abt Uinvest would be good, because if all come and comment 10 times saying bad abt Uinvest, really do hurt any company's goodwill, if 100 people on this forum say Vista 7 is horrible, believe me, you're the one who're not gonna buy it and you know that fact. There's something called goodwill.

Also, I'm very excited to see Admin coming here and explaining all the facts about Uinvest, makes me more confident about their business lasting longer. Ofcourse, there's a risk (As they say), but which does'nt, you're not a small kid putting you're money in a kitty bank which yields 5% interest annually. I feel members need to grow up and accept what is what and make the business run longer.

Lastly, if they say they're not licensed, you need to provide them some time on the basis that they've shown us proofs of their registration in US, which you can verify on the official US government website. Plus, they've published some articles in yahoo, I feel the members can accomodate to give them sometime. The thing what's happening here is, members can give time, but the opposition cannot, which is what is happening. Come, be a member, understand the business, visit the office/place if you can and then comment on it, which I feel would be appropriate. :-)

Note: This post is not intended to anyone, but I feel it's better not to quote or attack me which would again does'nt go good with a poster's character.

Regards,
Amrut.