New NEWS Today (they have no sympathy for us LOL)

[gigi]

Here is my response to Paul Taggart's article:

Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:13:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: xxx
Subject: The crooks always win! At least in NZ
To: paul_taggart@hbtoday.co.nz

Yeah, right Paul! Point the finger at the victims and encourage the crooks. It's OK to defraud people and shame on the people who trusted them. It's always the victims fault, isn't that right Paul? And never the crooks. Let them wash their hands in clear water so they can defraud again and again with their Mission Statement: The global creation of wealth, To give hope, To fulfill dreams, To bring people to prosperity and happiness, through people helping people.
http://web.archive.org/web/200411301...www.it4us.net/

By the way, do you know the meaning of ethics??? Does your country encourage criminals and crooks??? Maybe that's why these lawless Americans move to NZ. Here in the US they will be prosecuted, did you know that??? Or did you receive a bribe to publish your story??? I wouldn't be surprised!

Have a great life!

[adamsta]

That article is based on complete IGNORANCE, as it leaves out the "LURE" of the "Thousands of Businesses" that I.T. claimed they had, and especially "We are Trading on Different Markets". Need I say more?????

O.K., having been a professional trader for a little over 2 years myself, trading on the Nasdaq and the Dow Jones markets, I know it was/is possible to make a sizable return EVERY SINGLE DAY, ESPECIALLY IF ONE HAS "TWENTY PROFESSIONAL TRADERS, TRADING ON VARIOUS MARKETS", as the IT thieves claimed they had. Just based on this point alone, I feel it puts this article to COMPLETE DISCREDIT.

Immediately I thought of the FOREX exchange, which I have heard is less volitale than other markets, therefore the possibility of High Profits are definitely possible-especially with "TWENTY PROFESSIONAL TRADERS". What do you all say??????????? I would be curious as to your opinions on the "Trading" angle that IT used and therefore the Believability of High Returns.

adam

[awty]

Adamsta - You might check over some of the 'definitions' of trading that have been posted, and note what is NOT listed, just as much as what is.

Unfortunately, many hyip's are more about 'wordcraft' than financial sense.

Likely 'by design'.

Just my opinion,
Jeff

[gigi]

Please tell that Paul Taggart (paul_taggart@hbtoday.co.nz), would you?

Originally Posted by adamsta

That article is based on complete IGNORANCE, as it leaves out the "LURE" of the "Thousands of Businesses" that I.T. claimed they had, and especially "We are Trading on Different Markets". Need I say more?????

O.K., having been a professional trader for a little over 2 years myself, trading on the Nasdaq and the Dow Jones markets, I know it was/is possible to make a sizable return EVERY SINGLE DAY, ESPECIALLY IF ONE HAS "TWENTY PROFESSIONAL TRADERS, TRADING ON VARIOUS MARKETS", as the IT thieves claimed they had. Just based on this point alone, I feel it puts this article to COMPLETE DISCREDIT.

Immediately I thought of the FOREX exchange, which I have heard is less volitale than other markets, therefore the possibility of High Profits are definitely possible-especially with "TWENTY PROFESSIONAL TRADERS". What do you all say??????????? I would be curious as to your opinions on the "Trading" angle that IT used and therefore the Believability of High Returns.

adam

[adamsta]

I just emailed him GIGI-the exact post that I made here a few minutes ago. Also, since when did you become a staunch supporter of 'justice' for the victems?? I recall just a few weeks ago you posted many an excuse for Mac and His Gang's actions.

adam

[gigi]

Originally Posted by adamsta

I just emailed him GIGI-the exact post that I made here a few minutes ago. Also, since when did you become a staunch supporter of 'justice' for the victems?? I recall just a few weeks ago you posted many an excuse for Mac and His Gang's actions.

adam

You are very wrong adamsta, I never supported them since they stopped paying.

[adamsta]

Originally Posted by awty

Adamsta - You might check over some of the 'definitions' of trading that have been posted, and note what is NOT listed, just as much as what is.

Unfortunately, many hyip's are more about 'wordcraft' than financial sense.

Likely 'by design'.

Just my opinion,
Jeff

Jeff, as far as I am concerned there is only One definition of trading-which is 'actually trading'-and the direct implication is on the Stock or Currency markets. Whatever else these Hype Scammers have twisted and transformed to suit their own viscious and selfish gains-I am, and was not aware of.

adam

[curious?]

I've emailed him as well, forwarded the Tsunami charity fraud info from Maree and my pet subject the SmartCard info from MasterCard fraud team

[timbain]

Better to help Lisa with her follow up story than start a fight with this guy who has already decided his standpoint I think.

Remember that anyone at all outside of this whole thing with IT will look at all sides and decide who is right by many factors....so HUGE BLOODY MAD EMAILS will not impress them as much as sensible to the point ones. They don't know us, do they?

I don't think any of the people involved so far really see how much money has vanished here, and from how many scams .....and what type of person is the favourite victim here. A great many people owed never used a PC even, managed accounts by family etc. were common.

curious has two very good points there...the charity and cards, they weren't stupid investors fault were they? Simple scams. Both aimed outside of the IT membership as well as internally.

You never know......one of these articles may catch a few fish involved in IT locally that we didn't know anything about, or something else Mac has been up to there?

Tim

[FYIIT]

Is it just me or did that news post sound like another Paul that we know? I had da ja vue reading that post because it sounded so much like what T.I.M has been posting lately! Could it be that Mac spent some of our money to pay this guy to make that post?