Risk Free Profit? (RFP)

[Ryz]

I do believe that anything that requires a monthly spend without any inherent return is a scam

You must not heat your home in the winter or pay for air conditioning then. You must not have cable either.

[Offshore-Wealth]

Originally Posted by B4Usurf

Sorry I got up your nose, Mike. I thought this was a public thread. Just airing my thoughts about this. Some may benefit but my experience differs. Just warning those who are not promoter types to not expect too much from this type of system. I did try one like this a few years ago. It may have been the same company. The name SureBetPro rings a bell. I would have to go back through my records to see. However I don't think anyone is interested in my failures here.

Interesting,

No problem, but you implied we were suckers, and yes, it is a public forum, but you were making unsubstantiated remarks without knowledge of whether you tried SureBetPro, or not. As Shane pointed out, there are many similar named arb tracker programs and it would not be fair to reference our program without absolute knowledge it was the same as you had no luck with.

You also made reference to the referral aspect, and this was strange since you yourself promote a commissioned program, so I was trying to figure out why you wanted to warn people about commission paying programs when you yourself are involved in such?

Peace, Mike

[TimeInvestor]

RFP NEWS- keeping you up-to-date on what's going on in all departments of RFP.
Keep yourself ahead of the game! 22.07.2006,Volume 72


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Hi Friends

Congratulations! There?s been lots of activity within the network in the past week with good communication.



We wish all of you in the northern hemisphere who are having your summer holidays, a fantastic time with lots of positive energy-generating experiences!





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Network
news from the field!

Compression



We will be compressing the matrix either at the end of this week or early next week. Please make contact with any members in your organisation who are inactive. Remember, that if they have been inactive for over 2 months, they are likely to be compressed out of the system. We have some exciting things planned for the future that they may not want to miss!



New Languages



We are working relentlessly to implement the new language pages in Chinese, Indonesian and French and hope to have them on the site soon.



Marketing tools



Most of the marketing tools have been updated and are in your back office.



If you would like to do your own team online conference room presentations with the RFP presentation slides and need them in a jpeg format, please contact support through your back office.



We look forward to a very productive and expansive development period in the months to come.





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SureBetPro

We are approaching the start of the European top league and expect a sharp increase in the number of arbitrages. Many of you will use this summer holiday season to familiarise yourselves in the use of SBP and the techniques that can help increase profits and returns considerably.



As mentioned before, our development team is working hard on various upgrades - we expect positive news on these in the early autumn and are looking forward to a very exciting future!





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Sports

Tennis ? this week there is 4 Tennis tournaments 2 women and 2 men spread around the world



Baseball ? The activity on the base ball court is keeping up at the phase we are use to !



Soccer- Not to much activity yet ? even if we have some Champion leagues this week.





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Success Stories

Thanks again for this fantastic opportunity ? I am doing better and better in my Arb Trading and I feel great about marketing this concept to others. I have been trading full-time for three months and part-time for 6 months prior to that! I am totally amazed by the ingenuity of the software and am delighted to be associated with RFP.



John

UK



If you have a testimonial that you would like to share with us, please send it to the support desk through your back office.





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In Closing!

It is the northern hemisphere summer holidays and many of you will meet new people every day during this period. Some of these contacts may be very interested in our concept if it is presented to them well. Ask questions and LISTEN to their answers. Find out what that person wants from their life. (We suggest that you study the sections Prospecting and Inviting and Communication Skills on pages 20-31 of the RFP training and reference manual in your back office.) Find the right time to present your ideas and don?t bombard your prospect with too much information. Encourage questions and give the answers. This way, they will be better informed. Remember, all you really need to do is get your prospect excited enough to take a look at the website (or your presentation folder with the printed PDF presentation) where everything is explained in detail. What you need to create is the foundation on which to build your prospect?s interest, so that they will ask the first question?.and then you follow up with the information that leads to a new round of questions from your prospect.



Be enthusiastic, demonstrate that you are there for support and that you are having fun and why wouldn?t they want to be a part of this wonderful business too?!



Have a fantastic week ahead!

[B4Usurf]

Mike,
To promote anything successfully??? these days in the HYIP/Autosurf arena you need to offer incentives for people to join up under you better than the next guy who may be offering 80-90% referral fees back to new members. I could not be bothered playing that sort of game.

I offered 50% back when 12DP was going and that was hardly worthwhile. There is a certain amount of administration that needs to be done. You have to pay from your payment processor too and pay the fees involved.

I was abused when I warned everyone that 12DP was about to crash in November. I got out at the right time. The only problem I had was that I still had some money in Stormpay. They scammed me for $1500+ that had nothing to do with autosurf.

Good to see you doing well with arb, Mike! Looks like you have found a winner.

[poperr]

Hi,

Getting back to helping each other who are trading..... I am trying to work out the keys things for placing a trade with Baseball. The terms under "10,over 10", and I am confused about "listed pitchers", can Shane or someone help??

Regards

Robert

[aegist]

Yeah sure. You either want to have both sportsbooks keep listed pitchers, or you want to have both books without listed pitchers ("Action").... Keep same to same.

Some books will give you the choice (pinnacle for instance) while some books will make you keep listed pitchers... I have the two varieties noted in my excel sheet just in case (quickly: Pitchers Must start: Labrokes, linesmaker, willhill, expekt 5dimes. Our choice: VIP, Pinnacle, TheGReek, BetRoyal, BetJamaica) Now they are just afew books which I collected the info on a while ago because I was using those books at that time. Now however i hardly pay attention and just always leave it on "Pitchers Must Start"

What does it mean? Well, I learnt waht it means by reading the bookmaker websites themselves. I think Pinnacle gives one of the best explanations: http://www.pinnaclesports.com/wageringinfo.asp#Baseball
So if my explanation is in anyway ambiguous, read their explanation. It pretty much applies to all of the other books out there too.

Basically, the "Listed Pitchers" or "Pitcher must start" option means that each team names who their pitcher will be before the game. When the game starts, if the patcher of either team has changed (due to illness, injury or whatever) then the bet is cancelled if you have the "Named pitchers must start" option chosen. So, for arbing purposes if you ahd one bookmaker with Pitchers must start, and the other with "Action" then you would ahve one bet cancelled, and the other "actioned' ie: it would still be on. Since some books don't give you an option and just always have "Named pitchers must start" i always just leave that option now, even though ideally for an arb we don't care who the pitchers are and would prefer to have "Action" on both sides. It is easier to forget about this choice, and just always leave "named Pitchers must start"

The intermediate option: One listed pitcher allows you another possibility, but it is certainly not one which is conducive to arbing. Read the pinnacle explanation for more info if you are curious, and if that doesn't explain it well, then try a few of the other bookmakers "Wagering Info" "bet Help" and "FAQ" sections out. They all explain it one way or another.

Shane

[websafecash]

Originally Posted by poperr

Hi,

Getting back to helping each other who are trading..... I am trying to work out the keys things for placing a trade with Baseball. The terms under "10,over 10", and I am confused about "listed pitchers", can Shane or someone help??

Regards

Robert

Basically, you need to confirm that both bookmakers have the same listed pitchers. Sometimes two teams can play two games on the same day. If you confirm the pitchers, you avoid betting on the wrong game.

If you place a bet "Over 10" means that the game will need to have a total score of over 10 runs. This means that when you add up the scores of BOTH teams, it has to be over 10 runs for you to win. If the Yankees score 3 and the Red Sox 6, that's equal to 9. It would be "Under 10" and you would lose your bet.

Hope this helps.

[primkogold]

lol

[poperr]

Thanks for the fantastic help. Now I translate it to Indonesian for our team here )-:... Actually we have just finished translating the Indonesian website, it is about to be uploaded to teh RFP website..

[TimeInvestor]

Feel free to ask any questions.