If they own Telekom Malaysia (or whatever it's called) they can do/hide whatever they want behind it's walls.
Telekom Malaysia Berhad (www.tm.com.my) is the national provider for Telecommunications Services in Malaysia (just like you have MCI, Sprint, AT & T in US). The difference? It's wholly owned by the Malaysian government. Whoever swisscash people are, they don't own Telekom Malaysia. I'm not saying the employees of the company can't do anything, but please don't insinuate something such as this.
Hi Bystander
I have to assume you are an Innocent Bystander.
There were no employees at this Malaysian Telekom running an Investment Ponzi's Customer Service. There were no employees at this Malaysian Telekom running sophisticated Extortion Ring and HYIP SCams. There simply would'nt ever be enough time and opportunity to pull it off. If they were an employee , I'm sure they would be spending most of their time working for the Telekom and not some extra curricular Bogus business activities and for a few years at that.
It has already been established by TG Forum User Hijazn ( which I really have to say Hijazn , I really appreciate your imput on this. It's really enlightened all of us like you cannot begin to imagine. ) that this Mahadi Harun is well known among the SwissCash Team Leaders and Educated Promoters as an Expert Investment Trader who went far and above any 60% to 70% per year ROI and broke the code and went far higher and developed the successful 9 Billion Dollar Trading company that is now creating millionaires all over Southeast Asia.
Also we have TG USER Profitized who claims to know him and she is indirectly under his downline in the same investment Team. Go back a few pages and read their own comments.
There were no employees at this Malaysian Telekom running an Investment Ponzi's Customer Service. There were no employees at this Malaysian Telekom running sophisticated Extortion Ring and HYIP SCams. There simply would'nt ever be enough time and opportunity to pull it off. If they were an employee , I'm sure they would be spending most of their time working for the Telekom and not some extra curricular Bogus business activities and for a few years at that.
It has already been established by TG Forum User Hijazn ( which I really have to say Hijazn , I really appreciate your imput on this. It's really enlightened all of us like you cannot begin to imagine. ) that this Mahadi Harun is well known among the SwissCash Team Leaders and Educated Promoters as an Expert Investment Trader who went far and above any 60% to 70% per year ROI and broke the code and went far higher and developed the successful 9 Billion Dollar Trading company that is now creating millionaires all over Southeast Asia.
Also we have TG USER Profitized who claims to know him and she is indirectly under his downline in the same investment Team. Go back a few pages and read their own comments.
Cheers from New Zealand
bluey bluey, you took my joke about Mahadi Harun too serious, dude. you know i was just joking when i wrote that, unless you're too dumb to understand my writing, dude. this forum is about online HYIP, so i guess everyone knows the risk of an online HYIP, unless you're as dumb asbluepacific over here
until today, swisscash has demonstrated an outstanding track record and hopefully will remain successful. all investors got paid on time, and profits can be wire transfered/TT to any bank worlwide. tell me how can swisscash survive to this day if they're such a scam? tell me if they have 9 billion dollars in hand (like bluepacific claimed), why don't they just run away? who knows maybe swisscash is truly an honest online financial facility after all...you judge it yourself.
so ladies & gentlemen, let the HYIP police, mr bluepacific dude (there's a "dude" on your name too..hahaha) finish his job. i think he must be getting paid well wasting time in this forum. i've stated myself clear, so stop relating me or profitized or any other investors with Mahadi Harun, swisscash admin or whatsoever. i've wasted my time long enough in this forum. adios!
to the swisscash investors...big cheers to all of you
If they own Telekom Malaysia (or whatever it's called) they can do/hide whatever they want behind it's walls.
Telekom Malaysia Berhad (www.tm.com.my) is the national provider for Telecommunications Services in Malaysia (just like you have MCI, Sprint, AT & T in US). The difference? It's wholly owned by the Malaysian government. Whoever swisscash people are, they don't own Telekom Malaysia. I'm not saying the employees of the company can't do anything, but please don't insinuate something such as this.
It seems clear that SOMEONE at TM must know something. 179,000 members in an MLM HYIP and they've never had a complaint to the ISP ?
Especially when , from the whois, that's where the buck stops?
Would it not be incumbent upon a publicly-owned corporation to provide clear view of those who might abuse or commit crime through the internet?
Are you saying there's no corruption in Malaysia?
And the one thing that really has a bad smell to it here, is the thing I can't get an answer for.
I see Michael Mansfield announced that he has at least 75 "dealerships", with unsuspecting twits like Irwan homebiz thinking they're moving up in the world.
Now, supposing that Swiss mutual, swisscash or even Mansfield has several years of experience in banking, I would be very surprised to find that he didn't understand both the concept, and the illegality of "money mules" (which is what Mr.Irwan is, If he is not licensed by the country in which he resides and by the country which receives the money (where SC's bank is)
See, anybody who receives funds into their accounts for the purpose of transferring it out to a third party in another country, and is not licensed to do so, is a Money Mule.
And mules are put there to protect the "company" from the feds. The mules get the rap. The mules go to prison.
The "company" entices them with fancy labels, like Financial Consultant, strokes their egos, and voila, The guilty are well-hidden behind the mules who think they are Financial Consultants (because they've made such wise Financial moves themselves by investing in the company) and now, not only do they get to bring new investors in, but they also get to carry the onus of breaking AML agreements and well,...you get the picture.
Mansfield claims that forming the dealerships was necessary due to the number of investments arriving daily. Isn't that something? Investment firms all over the world have far more action than SC but haven't resorted to dealerships to handle incoming investments. In fact, that would slow them down. And it would make the investors angry because of time lost in turnaround.
Aside of the fact that if I'm buying into Merrill-Lynch, I'm not sending a bank transfer to Harry Smith's account. I'm sending it to Merrill-Lynch. And even if I go to a Merrill-Lynch "dealership/franchise", I'm not giving the money to the owner of the franchise, I'm giving it to Merrill-Lynch. (And by the way, The franchisees at Merrill-Lynch are licensed.)
So, I'll ask again. Are these 'dealers" licensed, and where on their sites is the license shown?
Or are they mules?
And the one thing that really has a bad smell to it here, is the thing I can't get an answer for.
I see Michael Mansfield announced that he has at least 75 "dealerships", with unsuspecting twits like Irwan homebiz thinking they're moving up in the world.
Now, supposing that Swiss mutual, swisscash or even Mansfield has several years of experience in banking, I would be very surprised to find that he didn't understand both the concept, and the illegality of "money mules" (which is what Mr.Irwan is, If he is not licensed by the country in which he resides and by the country which receives the money (where SC's bank is)
See, anybody who receives funds into their accounts for the purpose of transferring it out to a third party in another country, and is not licensed to do so, is a Money Mule.
And mules are put there to protect the "company" from the feds. The mules get the rap. The mules go to prison.
The "company" entices them with fancy labels, like Financial Consultant, strokes their egos, and voila, The guilty are well-hidden behind the mules who think they are Financial Consultants (because they've made such wise Financial moves themselves by investing in the company) and now, not only do they get to bring new investors in, but they also get to carry the onus of breaking AML agreements and well,...you get the picture.
Mansfield claims that forming the dealerships was necessary due to the number of investments arriving daily. Isn't that something? Investment firms all over the world have far more action than SC but haven't resorted to dealerships to handle incoming investments. In fact, that would slow them down. And it would make the investors angry because of time lost in turnaround.
Aside of the fact that if I'm buying into Merrill-Lynch, I'm not sending a bank transfer to Harry Smith's account. I'm sending it to Merrill-Lynch. And even if I go to a Merrill-Lynch "dealership/franchise", I'm not giving the money to the owner of the franchise, I'm giving it to Merrill-Lynch. (And by the way, The franchisees at Merrill-Lynch are licensed.)
So, I'll ask again. Are these 'dealers" licensed, and where on their sites is the license shown?
Or are they mules?
Hi Mary
I just sent Irwan-HomeBoyBiz a link to the official MayBank Stand on SwissCash money Laundering bankWire Transfers. Whether there are Licenced or unlicenced Investment Brokers , they simply want it known to Investor Public that they have no connection to SwissCash.
This is especially serious for Irwan-Wiran whose prefered method of Launderette moving of money is thru MayBank as you can see from his website. Just click on his link and scroll all the way down and you'll see his prefered Method of Transaction is MayBank.
I just sent Irwan-HomeBoyBiz a link to the official MayBank Stand on SwissCash money Laundering bankWire Transfers. Whether there are Licenced or unlicenced Investment Brokers , they simply want it known to Investor Public that they have no connection to SwissCash.
This is especially serious for Irwan-Wiran whose prefered method of Launderette moving of money is thru MayBank as you can see from his website. Just click on his link and scroll all the way down and you'll see his prefered Method of Transaction is MayBank.
I just sent Irwan-HomeBoyBiz a link to the official MayBank Stand on SwissCash money Laundering bankWire Transfers. Whether there are Licenced or unlicenced Investment Brokers , they simply want it known to Investor Public that they have no connection to SwissCash.
This is especially serious for Irwan-Wiran whose prefered method of Launderette moving of money is thru MayBank as you can see from his website. Just click on his link and scroll all the way down and you'll see his prefered Method of Transaction is MayBank.
Hi All , (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I requested out-going money transfer ( US 700 ) on 13th Feb 2007 and it was approved on 14-2-2007 .
My local bank has been verified by SC few weeks ago. Received sms and email notification that the money will reach our local bank account ( Malaysia ) within 3 working days.
Till todate , 23-2-2007 .....( 9 days already ) money is not in yet !
Already submit a ticket ( 21-2-2007 ) asking for status why no deposit ...admin replied ( 23-2-2007) saying that they will refer this case to finance department .
This is taking such a long time....SC got problem or epoint exchange dealers not functioning ?
Use to be a breeze when exchanging epoints to cash with our millionaire upline BUT now , even he doesn't want to accept/exchange epoints from us ( poor downline ) .......
just28
So, it seems now some of the "dealers" aren't even accepting worthless E-points now, looks like the rats are getting off the ship to me.