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Old 01-04-2006, 12:16 PM
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Default PIPsters beware - You are being mislead

I posted this in the thread entitled: Does anyone realise.....Lotteries

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US Citizens and International Lotteries:

It is illegal for US Citizens to enter foreign lotteries

Federal Statute: Racketeering

US Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 95

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...0_I_20_95.html

Check this page for the actual law: http://www.fraudaid.com/ScamSpam/Lot...al_statute.htm
Abe reproduced my post over at W.W.S.N. on Jan. 4th.

The following post then appeared over at ROIclub:

kingpau
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US Members only - take notice before making your decision

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Originally Posted by luckydog
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Any members in the U.S. may want to hold off on joining the matrix or making purchases at all, unless Brian sees a way around this. According to laws governing U.S. citizens the law states that participating in a foreign lotto is illegal a.k.a. racketerring.

see below:

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 95 - RACKETEERING
Sec. 1953. Interstate transportation of wagering paraphernalia

(a) Whoever, except a common carrier in the usual course of its business, knowingly carries or sends in interstate or foreign commerce any record, paraphernalia, ticket, certificate, bills, slip, token, paper, writing, or other device used, or to be used, or adapted, devised, or designed for use in

(a) bookmaking; or

(b) wagering pools with respect to a sporting event; or

(c) in anumbers, policy, bolita, or similar game

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years or both.
To which "Mike" replied:

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No one is sending or receiving by common carrier anything, so not applicable.

Good luck to all, Mike
And then Bryan Marsen replied:

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This relates to offline physical tickets, betting slips,advertising leaflets,etc.

The header on the Law is: 1953. Interstate transportation of wagering paraphernalia

Dated: 1953 - internet did not exist then - not applicable.

Are there any addendums to this law that includes the internet.

Bryan
BEWARE - YOU ARE BEING MISLEAD

What both Mike and Bryan Marsden have done is selectively post from the website. They have neglected to point out that the first line quoted says:

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"(a) Whoever, except a common carrier in the usual course of its business, knowingly carries or sends in interstate or foreign commerce any record, paraphernalia, ticket, certificate, bills, slip, token, paper, writing, or other device used, or to be used, or adapted, devised, or designed for use in
that means anyone else, other than a carrier of goods, i.e. the Post Office, who does this as part of his normal business. In other words, someone who could not reasonably know that in amongst the millions of articles they are transporting are some of the prohibited goods.

And, the final definition they have also omitted which says:

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(e) For the purposes of this section ''lottery'' means the pooling of proceeds derived from the sale of tickets or chances and allotting those proceeds or parts thereof by chance to one or more chance takers or ticket purchasers. ''Lottery'' does not include the placing or accepting of bets or wagers on sporting events or contests.
There is NO exemption for internet based lotteries, the definition is extremely clear.
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