[jiminoregon]

Originally Posted by pogue

Earl? No, sorry, I don't get it...

Geez Pogue...My name is Earl...is the funniest show ever...he's out fixin his karma. You gotta see it...

Jim

[nano22]

Earl is great man!!!!!! The Hole in one was great!!! FREE BEER Karma and Earl go hand in hand

Originally Posted by jiminoregon

Good karma for you? Your name isn't Earl, is it? lol...good info.

Jim

[jiminoregon]

Originally Posted by nano22

Earl is great man!!!!!! The Hole in one was great!!! FREE BEER Karma and Earl go hand in hand

And don't forget those hot chicks....Jamie Pressley....ggggrrrrr!

Jim

[scarednvestor]

Good thread, you did forgot to mention about payment processor licenses.


I believe this and mail fraud and govenor of Tenneseeare should be the KEY complaints right now as most of theother stuff people are well aware of and should be done after the others are done first.

[fallingBomb]

very nice

[justa]

Good job.

StormPay is a ripoff.

[Maya001]

Here's another website with the links to submit a claim to the FBI and it has lots of good argument against SP too that are probably be relevant to each individuals case.

Here's the link - http://www.freewebs.com/opalastone/

Here's some examples of arguments against SP's actions:-

At NO time have I been taken to court, at NO time has Stormpay presented a case showing where ~*I*~ owed STORMPAY collectible monies. AT NO time have I been made aware of any claim submitted by either of the above business's requesting funds they sent to me be returned.

Stormpay "froze" 12DailyPro's account (admin@12DailyPro.com), which was within their right.. HOWEVER Stormpay then initiated them self.. Not 12DailyPro, NOT I the purchaser,, STORMPAY then initiated Charge Backs against MY account on monies I received FROM 12DailyPro. In MY personal case Stormpay on 2/7/06 posted a reversal of funds received on 12/4/05 from 12DailyPro. This act is totally outside of ANY agreement I or 12DailyPro entered into with them (stormpay) upon opening our accounts with Stormpay and through any subsequent modifications made to the Stormpay USER AGREEMENT. I do have copy of the USER AGREEMENT as it stood in effect on 2/7/06 (sorry I do not have one prior to 1/1/06 perhaps another stormpay user had the foresight to take one).

Through Stormpays mass sweep of ALL subscriber accounts that have done business with any of the above mentioned FROZEN accounts, which may number more than I am personally aware of and mentioned, Stormpay did millions of dollars of charge backs (over $50 million based upon abc4 Utah news media reporting) , INTENTIONALLY, by Stormpay, bringing thousands of stormpay member accounts to ZERO. No audit was done prior to these charge backs to attempt to determine if monies received from a FROZEN account by another stormpay account holder was above and beyond what the purchaser had originally sent. Such an audit could/would have indicated if funds were sent as a legitimate refund/payment from Seller to Purchaser. With Stormpays assertion that 12DailyPro (mentioned numerous times on abc4 news Utah and other news medias) is a scam / ponzi / pyramid scheme Stormpay claimed the right to protect all members from such activities. NO legal right to support them, implied or direct. NO REFERENCE, EVER, to any of the numerous OTHER FROZEN accounts Stormpay Froze and initiated charge backs on.

NOTE - ONLY stormpay members are being harmed as his business continues as usual for those members that purchased their service by EGOLD or some other MIDDLE MAN pay processor.

Had Stormpay had the legal right / order to seize funds from other stormpay account holders regardless of their involvement with the Business Sites who's accounts were FROZEN, It is my understanding Stormpay had the obligation to inform each member directly (not through a site posting) of their actions, the cause that gave legal right to their actions (the naming of the "OFFICIAL AUTHORITY AND TYPE OF DOCUMENT SERVED ON THEM, and what IF any legal recourse their subscriber had against whom.

As In a Court Order to a Banking Institute, known to hold funds of an Individual, is required to remove any and all funds up to but not to exceed the dollar amount within the Court Order (less bank fees charged for complying) is required to send via U.S. Postal service notice to their account holder of their actions... so would have Stormpay by any logical reasoning thinking. This has NEVER been done.

[Zarabanda]

File a complaint with the Utah Consumer Protection Agency for the first court case

The State of Utah is beginning the first round of judical action in what many hope is the end of Storm Pay, Inc.

Here is the office to contact which are relaying consumer complaints against Storm Pay, Inc., Steve Girsky and John McConnell to the Utah State Court for the upcoming hearing:

Division of Consumer Protection
Heber M. Wells Building, Second Floor
160 East 300 South
SM 146704
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114
801-530-6601
Toll Free in Utah: 800-721-7233
fax: 801-530-6001

Here is a rich text format (.rtf) form of the Consumer Complaint Form with the information filled in for the suppliers you are complainting about:

Stormpay, Inc.

NetIBA

Steve Girksy

John McConnell

Each of the supplier information areas has their names, address's, phone numbers already filled in for you to help you file your complaint form as easily as possible.

The complaint.rtf file generally pulls up your rft compatiable word processor as you click on that link, the file is 95k in size so it takes a moment to pull in, although it is much faster than the .pdf file which you normally cannot edit.

You can easily edit in your complaint information in this complaint.rft file with your word processor and either Fax or Postal Mail that to the Utah Consumer Complaint office. I urge those not living in the state of Utah to also file this complaint which will be forwarded to those handling the first court proceedings regarding Storm Pay, Inc.

You can also easily forward this 95k document file via your email to anyone that you feel would use it.

After clicking on this link to pull up the complaint.rft file, chose in your file options to Save so you can as time permits edit in your information and send it.

http://toget.to/StormComplaint

[surf28]

wow

[Zarabanda]

Amend your Bank/Credit Card disputes/chargebacks with stormpay to include this

Greetings to the stormpay dispute and chargeback brigades,

I urge you to dispute all money transfers from your bank account or credit/debt cards which were paid to Stormpay.com from January 1, 2006 thru present if you feel you have a complaint against stormpay.com services.

Banking transactions to this party show in your statement as this:

WWW STORMPAY.COM

Those that have already filed a dispute against stormpay.com should amend their dispute to include that stormpay.com is not licensed as a money transfer agent in your state (provided that is a fact). Most states have statues making it a criminal felony for unlicensed money transfer agents to transfer money from that states consumers.

Because stormpay.com appears to be only licensed as a money transfer agent in the state of Tennessee and not in the consumers states which not only require them to be licensed in the consumer's state, its also a criminal felony to be a unlicensed money transfer agent in many states.

Your amended dispute of stormpay.com not being licensed in that consumers state is then forwarded to their bank investigators also. Possible actions would be that lender/bank would immediately suspend doing any further business with stormpay.com after their bank investigators confirmed stormpay.com has no license in that state as a money transfer agent.


Operating a interstate business without the proper license in that consumers state is Merchant FRAUD

Dispute Reason:Stormpay Merchant Fraud-Non Delivery of Services