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Re: Vanuatu gov't does NOT plan to sell hotel to GDT
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Old 06-05-2006, 02:29 PM
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Re: Vanuatu gov't does NOT plan to sell hotel to GDT
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:11 PM
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As long as you don't endorse any program or recommend your members join this program because you claim you have done DD or you believe this is the one or say you believe the Admin is honest, it is okay. Aftar all, Talkgold has to pay the bills somehow. Tg also doesn't ever take your money.

Don't start this argument again, yasser. We go through this argument every time with cheerleaders in program after program in TG folder after TG folder. Whenever we bring up scammy looking things about their particular program, rather than try to defend the program, cheerleaders try to change the topic and try to attack TG instead. It's a favorite diversion tactic of cheerleaders. Attack TG so we don't have to look at how our favorite program is actually scamming us and how they have taken our money and we likely won't see our money again.
c'mon dogman, you know Im not a cheerleader and Im sorry because of this argument. I am unaware of the tactics the cheerleaders use.

I havent attacked TG. I like the way talkgold's admins run this forum.

I think that you take all this way too serious.

My point was that TG advertizes false opportunities, just as DXIO. And transparent said that G does it also, and the newspapers and all media too. Everyone does it. And at the end its up to you. YOU decide wheather to join or not. One must take responsibility for the actions one takes. Noone put a gun to my head and forced me to join DXIO. I did it on my own. Because I was willing to take the risk. After doing DD.

But if you run a forum that advertizes DXIO and you use censorship to limit the access to information about DXIO current performance, and the truth about people who are behind DXIO, well thats scamming. And if you go to that forum, kiss their a$$es and join DXIO based on that censored information, well, then you are stupid. And then when you start asking real questions on that forum, and get banned, then you are frustrated. And, then finally, you come to this forum to rant how DXIO and DX4All scammed you, and call names people that did their DD, hmm, thats pathetic.

Thats my opinion about some people here, and I wont be calling names. Because I hear Pluggy's caught a cold, and he is not in a good mood.

Noone forced nobody to join DXIO. It was a choice that we made. Bad choice, you say. Well, everyone who thinks so should move on.

BTW, Ive got another one processed last night. It was 500 EBC, pending for about a month, and received it after writing to support. But this one went straight back to my pocket.

Slow OUTX times, DXConcierge and all this farse doesnt bother me much. The thing that bothers me the most is GDTs secrecy and total lack of communication.

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Old 06-05-2006, 03:28 PM
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c'mon dogman, you know Im not a cheerleader and Im sorry because of this argument. I am unaware of the tactics the cheerleaders use.

I havent attacked TG. I like the way talkgold's admins run this forum.

I think that you take all this way too serious.

My point was that TG advertizes false opportunities, just as DXIO. And transparent said that G does it also, and the newspapers and all media too. Everyone does it. And at the end its up to you. YOU decide wheather to join or not. One must take responsibility for the actions one takes. Noone put a gan to my head and forced me to join DXIO. I did it on my own. Because I was willing to take the risk. After doing DD.

Noone forced nobody to join DXIO. It was a choice that we made. Bad choice, you say. Well, everyone who thinks so should move on.

BTW, Ive got another one processed last night. It was 500 EBC, pending for about a month, and received it after writing to support. But this one went straight back to my pocket.

Slow OUTX times, DXConcierge and all this farse doesnt bother me much. The thing that bothers me the most is GDTs secrecy and total lack of communication.
the problem is people can't move on unless you just want to accept that you have "lost" your REAL money. Yes, you should take responsiblity - but what about Dx's responsiblilty?

You should at least continue to warn people to stay away from Dx.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:41 PM
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the problem is people can't move on unless you just want to accept that you have "lost" your REAL money. Yes, you should take responsiblity - but what about Dx's responsiblilty?

You should at least continue to warn people to stay away from Dx.
People should find a way to get their money back, or accept the loss. I am sorry that people lost money. But they could try to look at this as a very valuable experience that could learn them to use their brains and take responsibilities for their actions. And dont trust anyone, especially in this investment area.

But there are few billion of people that i feel sorry so much more than those few who lost money in DXIO. Those people and their hungry families should work all their lifetimes to pay one average OA fee on a 20K portfolio. Those are the real suckers. And yet, we sit behind our computer screens, and think that we are ENTITLED to earn enough to live of just by pressing some Input devices and watch the results on our Output devices. If you really want to earn some money, PM me and I can arrange you a work on my olive plantation. Youll get up every morning at 5:00 and work until sunset, and you will be paid fairly, 35 USD per day(food and bed included). Hey, that is legitimate business. Not offshore, I have all the papers youll ever want. You dont need to worry about the fees, nor about the outexchange times. I will even give you 50% percent in advance. Do YOU wanna come? Ill pay for the trip. (But only if you stay 2 months or longer)

I would NEVER recommend DXIO to nobody and I never did such a thing. I joined DXIO in May '05. Only 15 days later I would never joined it. I did get 100 percent return in a year, but i dont feel happy about it. I joined DXIO because I found the DXSystem to be interesting, and I wanted to see how it works. I never thought that DXIO will solve my financial troubles, nor that i could make a living out of it. There is no such thing as free lunch.

Regarding DX and their responsibility: If (and when) all this is prooved to be a scam, I would be very very happy to see GDT officials behind the bars in an Offshore Soap Exchange Facility.

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Old 06-05-2006, 04:10 PM
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People should find a way to get their money back, or accept the loss. I am sorry that people lost money. But they could try to look at this as a very valuable experience that could learn them to use their brains and take responsibilities for their actions. And dont trust anyone, especially in this investment area.

But there are few billion of people that i feel sorry so much more than those few who lost money in DXIO. Those people and their hungry families should work all their lifetimes to pay one average OA fee on a 20K portfolio. Those are the real suckers. And yet, we sit behind our computer screens, and think that we are ENTITLED to earn enough to live of just by pressing some Input devices and watch the results on our Output devices. If you really want to earn some money, PM me and I can arrange you a work on my olive plantation. Youll get up every morning at 5:00 and work until sunset, and you will be paid fairly, 35 USD per day(food and bed included). Hey, that is legitimate business. Not offshore, I have all the papers youll ever want. You dont need to worry about the fees, nor about the outexchange times. I will even give you 50% percent in advance. Do YOU wanna come? Ill pay for the trip. (But only if you stay 2 months or longer)

I would NEVER recommend DXIO to nobody and I never did such a thing. I joined DXIO in May '05. Only 15 days later I would never joined it. I did get 100 percent return in a year, but i dont feel happy about it. I joined DXIO because I found the DXSystem to be interesting, and I wanted to see how it works. I never thought that DXIO will solve my financial troubles, nor that i could make a living out of it. There is no such thing as free lunch.

Regarding DX and their responsibility: If (and when) all this is prooved to be a scam, I would be very very happy to see GDT officials behind the bars in an Offshore Soap Exchange Facility.
and a lot of the people who lost money in DXIO are those people you are talking about - those that are poor and who were/are desperate and believed that Dx was their salvation. And it isn't a few. Thousands have lost money in DXIO. It's these people (the poor people) who believe they are entitled to make enough money to live on through Dx. It's these poor people that scams like Dx prey on the most because they give people this false hope of financial salvation. Also, people are at least entitled to not be lied to and to at least get their original deposits back. It is okay if you lose money due to legitimate investing, but not all right if you lose your original deposit because something like Dx is a Scam. Scams like Dx hurt the poor people more you are talking about than people like you and I.


I'm not sure why you sound so angry, Yasser.

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Old 06-05-2006, 04:18 PM
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and a lot of the people who lost money in DXIO are those people you are talking about - those that are poor and who were desperate and believed that Dx was their salvation. And it isn't a few. Thousands have lost money in DXIO.
sorry dude, but i dont think so. Those poor people dont have computers, no electricity and no broadband connection to load that ton of BS Flash movies at DXIO homepage. They cant pay for antivirus and firewall software and dont have postal address to receive check from Goldfinger Incorporated. 99 percent of them dont speak english, they dont have bank accounts and dont have a dime to invest. They are hungry man.

When you are hungry you dont spend your dime and wait 9 months to outexchange dime and a quarter after you paid your fees. No way.

Sorry dude if i sound angry, that wasnt my intention, and im almost never angry. Many people on this board misunderstand me, i think it is because of those cultural differences and the difference in personallities. Maybe its because of my english, and I express myself badly. Im not mad at anyone.

And the job offering in the previous post was serious, if someone is interested, please PM me.

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Old 06-05-2006, 04:30 PM
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sorry dude, but i dont think so. Those poor people dont have computers, no electricity and no broadband connection to load that ton of BS Flash movies at DXIO homepage. They cant pay for antivirus and firewall software and dont have postal address to receive check from Goldfinger Incorporated. 99 percent of them dont speak english, they dont have bank accounts and dont have a dime to invest. They are hungry man.

When you are hungry you dont spend your dime and wait 9 months to outexchange dime and a quarter after you paid your fees. No way.
No, yasser, they don't have computers - but they are told about this "great" opportunity by those "that do have computers" and told that this program is legit, will bring them financial freedom. These computer-savvy promoters also take advantage or these computer less people by not telling them of the real risks of these programs and that 99.9% of them are scams. Some of these promoters also scam these people even more by keeping these people's real money and in fact not sending it to Dx, but then simply exchanging the REAL cash for fake DX credits.

yes, if you are hungry you will wait 9 months because you BELIEVE SO DESPERATELY IN THE DX DREAM, that you will ignore the reality of the situation - that you likely won't ever see your money again.

The people like you and me who have money and aren't hungry will move on and won't wait after awhile and we can move on. But these hungry people can't move on because they have lost all their money in Dx.

It is the already desperate people who cling to Dx as a lifeline to financial freedom.

You have it backwards Yasser. These programs grow so big because they are offered to those "computer-less" people all over the world. you see all the people in Malaysia, or other poor countries who join these scams all the time.
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:50 PM
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No, yasser, they don't have computers - but they are told about this "great" opportunity by those "that do have computers" and told that this program is legit, will bring them financial freedom. These computer-savvy promoters also take advantage or these computer less people by not telling them of the real risks of these programs and that 99.9% of them are scams. Some of these promoters also scam these people even more by keeping these people's real money and in fact not sending it to Dx, but then simply exchanging the REAL cash for fake DX credits.

yes, if you are hungry you will wait 9 months because you BELIEVE SO DESPERATELY IN THE DX DREAM, that you will ignore the reality of the situation - that you likely won't ever see your money again.

The people like you and me who have money and aren't hungry will move on and won't wait after awhile and we can move on. But these hungry people can't move on because they have lost all their money in Dx.



It is the already desperate people who cling to Dx as a lifeline to financial freedom.

You have it backwards Yasser. These programs grow so big because they are offered to those "computer-less" people all over the world. you see all the people in Malaysia, or other poor countries who join these scams all the time.

C'mon man, you seem to live in a totally different reallity than me. I wont comment your post (except the last sentence) because there is no point. Do you read what i write, do you fail to understand it, or do you fail to acknowledge it? Ask the guy in Ethiopia what he thinks about HYIP arena. Are you serious?

To show you what I mean by saying that we live in a totally different dimensions Ill reffer to your statement that Malaysia is a poor country.

Malayia has GDP per capita of $12,100 (2005 est.), it exports electricity, food, natural gass, oil, coal nad so on and so on.....

Some of the countries I was reffering to are:
Afghanistan, Tanzania, Yemen, Zambia, Angola, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gambia, East Timor, Togo, Tuvalu, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Kiribati, Laos, Lesotho, Liberia, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Cambodia, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros,Mauritania, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nepal, Niger, Rwanda, Samoa, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Uganda.

Each of these countries have GDP below 900$ per capita and half or more of the population in the these countries are estimated to live at or below the absolute poverty line of U.S. $1 dollar per day.

And they invest in DXIO. C'mon man

One thing is for sure. If they do invest, then they are GRQs for sure. Because their life expectancy is under 35. And with that in your mind, you dont invest for the long haul.

Also, they make a HUGE undiscovered market, there are literally billions of them. Maybe Dave Bennet could start to market DXIO to them.
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Old 06-05-2006, 05:54 PM
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A lot of Internet scams are run from Nigeria.

Many of these countries are havens for Internet scams. So they aren't unsophisticated as you make them out to be, Yasser.

And oh, well, the U.S. spends billions to try to help these poor countries. And so do some other countries.
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Old 06-05-2006, 06:17 PM
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Unfortunately, a lot of problems for these countries is due to AIDS.

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