Goldfellers.

[spidermann]

Originally Posted by makila

---But we also know who Goldvet is now, we even know how he looks like. When the server crashed, his real life data accidently became visible on the server beyond his control(just a strike of bad luck for him I guess). Pete and JT are still hiding, ---

According to what I understand, one or 2 persons knew the identity of goldvet and apparently let him know they knew even before the supposed server issue. Hence, the supposed /exposure/ of data might have been a /fix/ to misdirect possible investigation.

Likely, goldvet closed the goldfellers scheme {the scheme is virtually closed}, also to protect another group of schemers/fraudsters who facilitated the goldfellers scheme, when goldfellers knowingly invested in another illegal and unethical operation - meaning goldfellers were knowingly piggy-backing on a fraudulent/scam operation. That other group of fraudsters that facilitated the goldfellers scheme in knowingly doing fraudulent investments, are in a big legal proceeding that can result in additional charges of fraud that can lead to jail-time for that group.

Those who facilitated goldfellers when goldfellers knowingly invested into a fraudulent/scam operation, also know the real name, address, etc of goldvet - which I understand might not be the same as the /info/ supposedly exposed by that supposed /server crash/ - a /crash/ that might well be a /fix/ to misdirect investigation.

Also, from what I understand, there is no JT. Goldvet and sftrader are the ones running the show, and JT is a fake set up in advance to divert possible investigation. In fact, from what I understand, goldvet is the only one that can be confirmed at this time. Goldvet's identity is the one found involved in all the fraudulent/scam transactions with the fraudulent facilitators - and they have the real info on goldvet as the person representing the goldfellers scheme.

In any event, find goldvet and you find all the other schemers and tricksters involved in running the goldfellers scheme.

[makila]

Originally Posted by spidermann

This is indeed about goldfellers, and you were one of the persons to mention Infinity Shares since you supported it and felt the need to /prove/ that it might be real - to save face?

Lets get things straight. I never promoted GF. I didnt even replied here until the problems started/arised.

Yes I did promote IS and it did refund nearly everyone(one batch to go ..), so if you still believe IS is a scam and piggybacked on GF and other schemes, I wont leave my sleep for it. You believe what you want.

I dont want or care to proof you ****** really. I dont give a ****ing ****. The only people who have to proof *anything* are scammers because they want to convince you to give them your money. Honest people like me dont have to proof anything.

Do I care you believe me? nope. Did I care in the past whether someone joined IS or not? nope. If noone joined, so what? Then I was the only member and that was that. No problems with that at all.

So there ya go.

And really I see no reason why I should keep replying here other than I love our little funny nonsense conversations...

[fredg61]

Looks interesting...

[spidermann]

Now more information came my way on goldfellers -

Before goldfellers became know as goldfellers on the internet, the group of schemers used to run a massive piggy-backing operation - piggy-backing mainly on other ponzi/scams and various forms of /gold games/ as the main way they were using to produce /returns/.

They were using more or less the very same system then, except that they used to show the /investors/ a table, listing the ponzi/scams they /invested/ into, as well as a list showing the ponzi/scams they are investigating. They would eventually /invest/ into the ponzi/scams that seem /stable/ - meaning, those that might last for another 6+ months after they /invest/.

So the goldfellers schemers and tricksters - headed by goldvet, sftrader, etc., were simply a bunch of HYIP Timers. They would also ask /investors/ to give them feedback on the ponzi/scams the admin did not try out to help admin improve their HYIP-timing skills. Now they might have invested purely by chance into 1 or 2 operations that were /real/, but they always view every scheme as never lasting for more than 6 months anyway. And sometimes an operation unexpectedly fold in 2 months. But all that is part of the /gold game/ and hence the reason for weekly rate fluctuation and the reason the /investors/ capital must expire {ever wondered why?}

By the time they exposed themselves as goldgfellers, they had more or less /perfected/ the art of HYIP-timing. But, they had an Archilles-heel they did not anticipate - related to issues with e-gold, plus some other issues that will always cause hyip-timing to eventually bring massive failure - besides the serious moral issue that many got caught up into - equivalent to having someone go out to rob just about anyone {including old ladies or street beggars} for you.

[missionrd]

I wonder why they wasted sooooo!! much time and energy in creating a New Program and Forum.

Was it just to mislead members into thinking that it was a genuine investment business? Also, encouraging people to re-invest and take advantage of the power of compound interest was obviously a way for them to always have available as much money as possible for other scams.

It beats me how these people can be so absolutely STUPID to think they can get away with these schemes. If they don't get caught by the Authorities they will still spend their lives looking behind their backs expecting a Goldfeller or Stabilitarian to come after them. In my humble opinion a guilty Conscience is worse than being behind bars.

MissionRD

[voyo]

Originally Posted by missionrd

I wonder why they wasted sooooo!! much time and energy in creating a New Program and Forum.

Was it just to mislead members into thinking that it was a genuine investment business? Also, encouraging people to re-invest and take advantage of the power of compound interest was obviously a way for them to always have available as much money as possible for other scams.

It beats me how these people can be so absolutely STUPID to think they can get away with these schemes. If they don't get caught by the Authorities they will still spend their lives looking behind their backs expecting a Goldfeller or Stabilitarian to come after them. In my humble opinion a guilty Conscience is worse than being behind bars.

MissionRD

Most probably they were hoping to get many new spends when they launched stabilita. But the HYIP business is so dead now, no one invest thousands like before. I guess they got only peanuts and decided to look for exit strategies

[pluggy]

Heres a little historical curio, my first payment from the then Goldfellers - 24th September 2005. The Stabilita name was in use back then, Gold was worth a little over half what it is today, and I'm a sad git with an old e-gold account......

[Gvwhereru]

Heres a little historical curio, my first payment from the then Goldfellers - 24th September 2005. The Stabilita name was in use back then, Gold was worth a little over half what it is today, and I'm a sad git with an old e-gold account......

wow, did i read that right,is my school comprehension, working right??? Your 1st payment from GF actually said stabilita??? i say that because members were surposed to have conjured the name stabilita them selves and voted on it!!! good grief,, am i linking it all up? (dear god i have been reading too much conspiracy and paranoia b/s from spidermann ??!?!?!), makes you think it was planed and executed from the start?!?! na, cant be......

[makila]

Originally Posted by Gvwhereru

wow, did i read that right,is my school comprehension, working right??? Your 1st payment from GF actually said stabilita??? i say that because members were surposed to have conjured the name stabilita them selves and voted on it!!! good grief,, am i linking it all up? (dear god i have been reading too much conspiracy and paranoia b/s from spidermann ??!?!?!), makes you think it was planed and executed from the start?!?! na, cant be......

I dont see any problems with GF, planning to Launch Stabilita since day 1. Its just a name right? I am just bothered that they dont pay me, the rest I really dont care.

[hyipsheriff]

They probably just changed the name on the Goldfellers account to the new name. No big deal!