Goldfellers.

[spidermann]

In my previous post, I said - [ We will always have scam here and there - fraud/scam will never end [unfortunately]. In fact, the excesses of /big oil/ is a form of /legal/ scam/fraud and hopefully Obama will help to reduce the excesses of /big oil/ and the excesses of /big banks/ and /lending/ operations, etc. Hopefully, we might see more of the honest investment and loan operations getting a chance to flourish ]

Well... the recent market upheaval is caused mainly by excess greed and irresponsibility in the market. The market is dominated by the /anything goes/ policy - i.e. excess greed and fraudulent activities are literally allowed to run rampant [i.e. excess/run away capitalism ].

Similarly, fraud/scam is sometimes allowed to flourish on the internet. Hence, the reason why obvious scams like goldfellers was able to operate for so many years. The authorities sometimes seem to operating on the notion that most people are smart enough to protect themselves, so obvious scams are more or less left alone until many people get hurt and complain about it. The truth is many people are smart. It is just that the scammers are really expert liars and tricksters. As the worst scums of the earth, they learn how to fool even the smartest people. This is what the likes of goldvet and sftrader are - cunning liars.

Goldfellers virtually ran into hiding when they realize the Authorities might soon be on to them. Now someone mention the name and address of Goldvet, and my source did not deny or confirm, but indicated that Goldvet sometimes use a popular Chinese name as his middle name [I guess like - Wang, Sing, Lee, Cheng, etc].

Now, if everybody who got burnt by the goldfellers scam complain to the FBI and the SEC, goldvet could soon be picked up - assuming the name and address someone gave earlier in this thread is correct.

[winner888]

gold feller is a funny name to have, we were in and out as quick as we could with this one,
we have been scamed so many times but we still invest, why? because over 100 programs we profit.

davey

[sundulhyip]

I can't open
http://goldfellers.net/goldfellers/about_us.htm
any problems?

[spidermann]

Originally Posted by winner888

gold feller is a funny name to have, we were in and out as quick as we could with this one,
we have been scamed so many times but we still invest, why? because over 100 programs we profit.

davey

Those of us who are into a /gold game/ should use the words /we win/ rather than /we profit/. Because that is what we usually say when we gamble. It is like playing the lottery or some other gambling operation.

When one is knowingly jumping in and out of all the obvious scam operations, it is ironic and pretentious for one to say they got scammed so many time. The truth is that the scam admins know that those who play the game are as dirty and nasty as the scamming admins. The gold gamers jump in and out hoping they will /win/ more then /lose/, but knowing that someone will be hurt when ever they /win/.

But it is well enough if a scam operations make it know that they are into a gold game and that they are not into real investment. Because in that way everyone who gambles can not honestly say they were scammed, since they know the whole thing was a gamble.

What is really wrong and detestable is when scums like goldvet and sftrader pretend that they are into real trading, and presenting their stinking scam operation as if it is a real trading operation, intending to fool those looking for a real trading operation that gives a return a bit better than the usual bank.

It is wrong when scums like goldvet and sftrader work their cunning tricks to a level that potentially honest people begin to trust the scums and believe in the lies.

The usual way they get people to trust them and believe the scam to be a real investment, is by using a bunch of tricksters and deceivers. These bunch of tricksters are out there pretending to be helpful to others. They give /advise/ on various topics and they present themselves as people who really know the ins and outs with HYIPs/LYIPs. They will even advise you not to join many of the obvious scam operations - all as part of the trick to build your trust. Then once they get you to trust them, then you will find it easy to join the scam operations they recommend.

Like with the goldfellers scam, the bunch of tricksters are usually the most vocal on the forums. They usually have a woman [ or someone pretending to be a woman] as a main /customer service/ person. Like with goldfellers, the /woman/ would present herself as an ordinary /down-to-earth/ person, who is just looking for a way to make /honest/ profits and is just willing to help others. As part of the deep trick, the /woman/ might even be [ or pretend to be ] technically challenged and a bit inept [like goldsalary of the goldfellers scam], answering only the simplest of questions, and leaving the /tough/ questions for scums like goldvet and sftrader to answer - all intended to distract you and keep you off your guard.

Anyway - anytime we say we made /profit/ in the many obvious scam HYIPs/LYIPs, we are really saying that many more people have /lost/ their money in a gamble, since there was no real investment.

[spidermann]

Originally Posted by sundulhyip

I can't open
http://goldfellers.net/goldfellers/about_us.htm
any problems?

Goldfellers actually has a /new/ website. But that /new/ website was just a distraction and a deception to keep /investors/ off guard, while goldvet and sftrader move the money they accumulated from one offshore bank to another offshore bank - that they believe is /safer/ from the US authorities.

I would not give the link to the /new/website, because every honest person now know that goldfellers was a scam operation. Also, there is really nothing to see at that /new/ site. Not to mention that the /new/ site was poorly developed - as if the /new/ site was built by a less than average programmer or goldvet himself dabbling with programming.

The /new/ site is now actually kept up as a diversion, while the scammers continue as a secret operation not open to the public, or using another name and another HYIP script, so that we might not identify them as the same ole goldfellers scammers [so they think].

Goldfellers was simply a stinking hyip-timing scam, that might even be involved in more sinister/illegal operations behind the scenes - ran by goldvet and his bunch of tricksters [i.e. sftrader, bobtrade, arron&sara, allinvain, adriene, Snuffleupagus, DarkOwl, Wiztek, haha22, Gaby, johny, adriene, Faust, tulasu and several others]. This is what they are doing right now with a different face and not readily known to the public. No real trading is going on, though a number of them might dabble with forex, etc. But because it is a scam, sooner or later, they will run away again and start up with a new name - like they did several times in the past.

There is the temptation to join the scam and not be bothered that they are scamming other scams to supposedly make money for you. They are hoping that the people who join them are just as morally bankrupted and nasty-minded enough to not be concerned that you are making /profits/ when there are no real investments. That you are sufficiently a moral degenerate to not be concerned that your /profits/ are actually money literally robbed from others who were deceived into /investing/ in the many scam HYIPs.